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Johnstown's population decline amplifies the impact of widesprea
d Section 8 housing
By: RE Date: December 13, 2021, 4:17 pm
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Nothing but the dead and dying in Johnstown PA.
RE
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Johnstown's population decline amplifies the impact of
widespread Section 8 housing
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A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in popula
tion decline
By: RE Date: December 21, 2021, 4:36 pm
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Nothing but the dead and dying in my Big Shity.
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A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in
population decline
At least there won't be so many people to relocate when it goes
underwater.
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Re: A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in po
pulation decline
By: Nearings fault Date: December 21, 2021, 6:13 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2155#msg2155 date=1640126167]
Nothing but the dead and dying in my Big Shity.
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A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in
population decline
At least there won't be so many people to relocate when it goes
underwater.
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RE
[/quote]I wonder how much is just aging boomers retiring to
somewhere warm. Florida is growing until a massive wave of
snowbird boomers starts dying there.
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Re: A smaller Big Apple: New York continues to lead nation in po
pulation decline
By: RE Date: December 21, 2021, 7:18 pm
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[quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=74.msg2156#msg2156
date=1640132037] wonder how much is just aging boomers retiring
to somewhere warm. Florida is growing until a massive wave of
snowbird boomers starts dying there.
[/quote]
Definitely in large part the decline is due to the outward
migration of retiring boomers to the south. NYC is simply too
expensive for most people to live on a retirement income.
They'll die though soon enough, one place or the other. Miami
isn't the greatest choice, since it's already flooding during
King tides.
The issue is, without inward migration, where do they get
replacements for the retiring slaves?
RE
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Life Expectancy in U.S. Declined 1.8 Years in 2020, CDC Says
By: RE Date: December 23, 2021, 1:01 pm
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Life Expectancy in U.S. Declined 1.8 Years in 2020, CDC Says
RE
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Re: Dieoff Errata
By: K-Dog Date: December 23, 2021, 2:55 pm
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Life Expectancy - I feel mine declining every day.
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Re: Dieoff Errata
By: RE Date: December 23, 2021, 3:55 pm
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2163#msg2163
date=1640292953]
Life Expectancy - I feel mine declining every day.
[/quote]
Definitely important to retire by 66. Assuming you start
working at 18, this gives you 48 years of wage slavery, and for
males just 8 years of retirement before you hit 74 and croak, a
6:1 ratiio. No wonder the Dentist wants to retire at 61.
Hopefully he is not too pussy whipped to do so. lol.
Having been forced into retirement at 55, I an now at 9 years
and still counting. Of course I'm not playing golf, but at
least I don't have to go to work anymore. It wasn't too bad
either until last year. I at least got all the SS I paid into
over my years of slavery. For however long I last and SS lasts,
it's all gravy. :)
RE
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Re: Dieoff Errata
By: K-Dog Date: December 23, 2021, 11:29 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=74.msg2168#msg2168
date=1640321790]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2164#msg2164 date=1640296530]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2163#msg2163
date=1640292953]
Life Expectancy - I feel mine declining every day.
[/quote]
Definitely important to retire by 66. Assuming you start
working at 18, this gives you 48 years of wage slavery, and for
males just 8 years of retirement before you hit 74 and croak, a
6:1 ratiio.
RE
[/quote]
Do you believe in wage slavery because that is what you
considered yourself to be during your working years, or because
it is more of an intellectual concept that you enjoy going on
about?
Are those who work for a wage, and consider it fair compensation
for the satisfaction and compensation they take from it, really
wage slaves? Or just the slaves who live in da big house, and
have it better?
[/quote]
Monday I start working part time at $19.50 an hour. Stock work
in a retail establishment. I started collecting my social
security several months ago. My savings are pale compared to the
dentist in the article but at least I have some. Point being,
while I will be collecting a wage. I am far from being a slave.
I have been stuck at home through the pandemic and now I have a
job that I will not have to think about when I am not working.
The pay is enough to make it worth my while and some physical
activity within limits is good for me. It may be a good fit for
now. The situation looks good. I'll give them good work and
they treat me well. It is a friendly place. If it does not
work out to be that way I can take the job and shove it.
I am not to be confused with someone who is highly educated but
who is having to stoop to being a barista or something because
they have no choice and are doing it just to get by. I am
educated, but better you confuse me with a man who is doing the
**** he wants to do. The Trotsky in this bunch, I am. But now
I have an employer and I am an employee. I give them work they
give me money. Mutual responsibilities. That would be true
under any economic arrangement where money is paid. If I show
up Monday and there is a picket line I won't cross it, but looks
to be unlikely.
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Re: Dieoff Errata
By: K-Dog Date: December 24, 2021, 1:04 am
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It is not fair for an owner to extract wages from profit equal
to 300 times what he/she pays their average worker. But my
employer does not have to worry about me going Trotsky on their
ass because what I am doing is by choice. If I don't like it I
leave.
That said:
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I read it.
[quote]Wilkinson and Pickett contend that people in more equal
societies live longer, have better mental health and are more
socially mobile. In this book they present the relationship
between income inequality and a range of health and social
issues, using data from the 23 richest countries and 50 US
states. Using 11 measures of health and social development—among
them physical and mental health, drug abuse, teenage
pregnancies, and child wellbeing—the authors use scatter graphs
to demonstrate that people are significantly worse off in more
unequal countries or states. Importantly, the observed
relationship is with economic inequality, not total wealth or
average per-capita income.[/quote]
Now, regarding being a wage slave. Their are people trapped in
exploitative circumstances with employers who have no concept of
this thing called a social contract. These people are too poor
to quit their job to find better circumstances or they don't
have mental horsepower to do anything but what they are doing.
If their wages are too low for them to live a decent life and
they are trapped and unable to quit they are a wage slave. They
quit they starve. That is what makes them a slave. There is no
way for them to save or find a way out.
A less stringent interpretation is to realize that any job that
pays you by the hour is never but in a blue moon going to pay
enough for you to live the life of what is commonly presented on
American media as middle class.
We can't all be Dentists with millions in savings. If you are
paid a wage you will not be able to stash a million in
retirement savings unless you got into a place at exactly the
right time. Being one of the first 100 employees at Costco for
instance.
* I read the book and the premise is not speculation. The data
proving the premise is real. But BFD. Science is no longer
popular.
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Re: Dieoff Errata
By: Phil Potts Date: December 24, 2021, 1:29 am
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2170#msg2170
date=1640323760]
I am not to be confused with someone who is highly educated but
who is having to stoop to being a barista or something because
they have no choice and are doing it just to get by. I am
educated but better you confuse me with a man who is doing the
**** he wants to do. The Trotsky in this bunch, I am. But now
I have an employer and I am an employee.
[/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're an engineer who can write
code. My first suspicion would be ageism behind you not getting
jobs you are over qualified for in your field.
It's a big problem, I know someone who is employed by a cement
company as a casual through labour hire. He's been there a year
on rates starting at 32$/hr then 40$ for time and a half and 50$
for double time. He often gets those long hours and high rates.
A 12 hr shift nets him 450$. The labour hire company also takes
a cut, so I'm guessing that 12 hr shift costs the cement
company, at least 600$.
As a company driver he would be on about 27$ hr with no middle
man expense. He's worked there for almost a year and never been
late, with crazy hours like 4.30am starts at times and never
screwed up yet. He informed the manager a week before his 6
month mark that released him from the obligation to the labour
hire, that the company could hire him directly. Since then, 3
other cement trucks drivers were hired ahead of him. One being a
female bus driver around his own age, and two men in their 30s.
All had no previous experience driving cement trucks that
involves at least two or three weeks extra training on top of
the truck licensed they would have already had.
Why wasn't he hired instead for a permanent full time position?
He's over 50.
There's that and some employers looking for the unicorn
employee. He was unavailable from the cement company for a week,
when he took a job driving a sewerage truck, literally pumping
**** for 26$ hr. Not just septic tanks, but portaloos. He said
doing septics, the pump motor still pushes air through the tank
and the smell is unavoidable, also when emptying it out. It's
also inside the cab of the truck, driving with windows up.
Pumping out the portaloos, he had to lift up the toilet and
shove the hose into a big pile of toilet paper, s.hit and p.iss
and jiggle the hose up and down to get it into the hose so it
doesn't block up. Literally **** work for a fully experienced
truck driver. The owner gave him three strikes, out for these
things: 1, suggesting they wash off the thick hose that had poop
and toilet paper stuck to it. 2 not knowing about a short cut in
an area right away. 3 missing 2 portaloos on a big berry farm.
He's sure that was a misunderstanding and he had done them as he
had been told about them when he was there. The truck owner said
he had a call from the farm they were missed. He didn't get a
chance to find out if he was right, they were the same ones he
was told about and did, let go. No great loss, he's fine doing
the cement truck work, as a casual. Maybe the pump truck owner
will find a desperate immigrant willing to get face to face with
piles of poopoo and breathe the smell of sewerage all day every
day until something better comes up. I told him it's not worth
it and be thankful he didn't get stuck with it.
At the end of the day, as long as the work you're getting is
reasonable, it's better than nothing.
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