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#Post#: 2015--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: moniker Date: December 9, 2021, 9:03 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=74.msg2014#msg2014
date=1639104484]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2012#msg2012 date=1639093946]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2010#msg2010
date=1639091773]
Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?
[/quote]
One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for
Elon.
1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep
well of debt
RE
[/quote]
Tesla debt sits at about less than $12 billion.
HTML https://cleantechnica.com/2021/07/22/analysis-tesla-has-much-less-debt-than-ford-gm-much-higher-gross-margin/#:~:text=In%20February%202021%2C%20Benzinga%20published,%242.13%20billion%20in%20current%20debt.<br
/>Elon could sell some shares in the company and pay it off if h
e
wished. Market cap is 1 trillion dollars (as in..one TRILLION).
So, let us say my average income from social security is $20G a
year...my equivalent percentage of debt would be...$240.
oh...the horror of the debt...
Ford and GM have 5X-10X Tesla's debt. And smaller market cap.
More data for everyone!!
[/quote]
Balancing the books is for the little people.
#Post#: 2018--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: moniker Date: December 9, 2021, 10:46 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=74.msg2016#msg2016
date=1639110746]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2015#msg2015
date=1639105417]
Balancing the books is for the little people.
[/quote]
And doing data is for the analytical people. ;D I mean really,
are we not thinking doomers, rather than propaganda swilling and
spewing charlatans? Are we fact oriented, or do we just say
things that aren't true and hope our doomer buddies don't call
us on it? The condition of humanity in general was advanced by
one crowd, the other turned into the Church, unthinkingly
humming the mantra and reciting the dogma as we are ordered by
the priests?
[/quote]
That is a lot to parse. The root of the problem is that humans
use language to describe reality, but reality is also created by
language.
#Post#: 2022--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: Phil Potts Date: December 10, 2021, 12:59 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=74.msg2016#msg2016
date=1639110746]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2015#msg2015
date=1639105417]
Balancing the books is for the little people.
[/quote]
And doing data is for the analytical people. ;D I mean really,
are we not thinking doomers, rather than propaganda swilling and
spewing charlatans? Are we fact oriented, or do we just say
things that aren't true and hope our doomer buddies don't call
us on it? The condition of humanity in general was advanced by
one crowd, the other turned into the Church, unthinkingly
humming the mantra and reciting the dogma as we are ordered by
the priests?
[/quote]
We are not. Individuals may be, if they belong to some
affiliation advancing an agenda. Govt is the most obvious.
Tesla posted losses for years and made a profit last year not
through sales of cars, but through Bitcoin and the other auto
manufacturers needing to buy % electric car credits from Tesla.
Just finally turning a profit without being profitable after
being built on govt handouts, apparently also funnelled into
Bitcoin, was enough to see the type of religious devotees you're
talking about take it's share price from the floor to the sky.
The same type of devotees who would not go near a car with
horrendous customer support, that had a history of bursting into
flames, locked the driver inside, crashed on its own and had
cheap interior plastic, if it was not a marque of being
environmentally responsible.
#Post#: 2023--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: Phil Potts Date: December 10, 2021, 1:27 pm
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[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2013#msg2013
date=1639100247]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2012#msg2012 date=1639093946]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2010#msg2010
date=1639091773]
Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?
[/quote]
One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for
Elon.
1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep
well of debt
RE
[/quote]
It's ostensibly true they want to replace gas engines with
electric ones because it's easier to shut off the electricity
than to cut off the gas. If you start discontinuing gas
production some people will get wise to what's going on and take
evasive action, but when you turn off the lights everything goes
dark in an instant. So to channel Evergrande and Hemingway, you
will not go bankrupt in 2 stages-first gradually then all at
once-but only all at once. And with Evergrande slow as
mollasses.
But I think it's more likely he wants to appear to be nice so he
can insert a chip into your brain while you are caught off
guard.
[/quote]
He's Asperger's, so has a hard time not saying what he's
thinking; such as us being cyborgs without knowing it, always
online, more guarded but pointed remarks about covid, and simply
stating the obvious on reproduction being necessary to a species
survival.
I don't think it's the same as the Henry Ford business model for
the masses, the cars are too expensive. It seems he sells dreams
to investors and green solutions for govts needing to meet
targets more than anything. Rides on a SpaceX rocket ship is a
niche market. It remains to be seen how many people will still
be driving in the future, I don't think it's going to be
anywhere near as many as now. Tesla will probably be well placed
to supply company managers and uber drivers.
#Post#: 2035--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dieoff Errata
By: K-Dog Date: December 11, 2021, 3:32 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2008#msg2008 date=1639086665]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2007#msg2007
date=1639083337]
No controversy to me. Put the inventor in and fasten the door.
With no way out after a few days he will push the button.
Then burn the machine with him inside. Destroy all the plans
and suppress all mention of the invention for all time.
Where is the controversy? Just go Stalin on his ass.
[/quote]
You don''t think people should have the right to kill themselves
as painlessly as possible? Even terminally ill people in
horrible pain?
RE
[/quote]
Of sound mind and body is a minimum requirement. O person
clinically depressed can lie on the questionnaire. They will be
found not to be ****-up and get a code. People who don't have
their brains working right can get a code. You have been seduced
by technology. A decision like this has to be decided by humans
who can weigh in on a persons mental state. No **** software
involved.
I find the inventor guilty of pre-crime and sentence him to
death.
[img
width=300]
HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsc02.alicdn.com%2Fkf%2FHTB1gCoXcQfb_uJkSne1762E4XXaF%2F225286798%2FHTB1gCoXcQfb_uJkSne1762E4XXaF.png&f=1&nofb=1[/img]
Silicone not 4me. You know I like the real thing. Some things
have to stay human.
#Post#: 2036--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: K-Dog Date: December 11, 2021, 3:39 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=74.msg2023#msg2023
date=1639164470]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2013#msg2013
date=1639100247]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2012#msg2012 date=1639093946]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2010#msg2010
date=1639091773]
Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?
[/quote]
One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for
Elon.
1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep
well of debt
RE
[/quote]
It's ostensibly true they want to replace gas engines with
electric ones because it's easier to shut off the electricity
than to cut off the gas. If you start discontinuing gas
production some people will get wise to what's going on and take
evasive action, but when you turn off the lights everything goes
dark in an instant. So to channel Evergrande and Hemingway, you
will not go bankrupt in 2 stages-first gradually then all at
once-but only all at once. And with Evergrande slow as
mollasses.
But I think it's more likely he wants to appear to be nice so he
can insert a chip into your brain while you are caught off
guard.
[/quote]
He's Asperger's, so has a hard time not saying what he's
thinking; such as us being cyborgs without knowing it, always
online, more guarded but pointed remarks about covid, and simply
stating the obvious on reproduction being necessary to a species
survival.
I don't think it's the same as the Henry Ford business model for
the masses, the cars are too expensive. It seems he sells dreams
to investors and green solutions for govts needing to meet
targets more than anything. Rides on a SpaceX rocket ship is a
niche market. It remains to be seen how many people will still
be driving in the future, I don't think it's going to be
anywhere near as many as now. Tesla will probably be well placed
to supply company managers and uber drivers.
[/quote]
Musk know what attracts attention. He is a showman. 'More
humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.
#Post#: 2038--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: December 12, 2021, 7:20 am
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2036#msg2036
date=1639258746]
[/quote]
Musk know what attracts attention. He is a showman. 'More
humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.
[/quote]
I think he was trying to be as least controversial as he could
possibly be because what he probably really meant to say is that
civilization will crumble if more specialized cogs aren't
educated in time to fill all the roles the tech tree requires
to stay smoothly functional...
#Post#: 2039--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dieoff Errata
By: Nearings fault Date: December 12, 2021, 8:38 am
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2035#msg2035
date=1639258340]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2008#msg2008 date=1639086665]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2007#msg2007
date=1639083337]
No controversy to me. Put the inventor in and fasten the door.
With no way out after a few days he will push the button.
Then burn the machine with him inside. Destroy all the plans
and suppress all mention of the invention for all time.
Where is the controversy? Just go Stalin on his ass.
[/quote]
You don''t think people should have the right to kill themselves
as painlessly as possible? Even terminally ill people in
horrible pain?
RE
[/quote]
Of sound mind and body is a minimum requirement. O person
clinically depressed can lie on the questionnaire. They will be
found not to be ****-up and get a code. People who don't have
their brains working right can get a code. You have been seduced
by technology. A decision like this has to be decided by humans
who can weigh in on a persons mental state. No **** software
involved.
I find the inventor guilty of pre-crime and sentence him to
death.
[img
width=300]
HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsc02.alicdn.com%2Fkf%2FHTB1gCoXcQfb_uJkSne1762E4XXaF%2F225286798%2FHTB1gCoXcQfb_uJkSne1762E4XXaF.png&f=1&nofb=1[/img]
Silicone not 4me. You know I like the real thing. Some things
have to stay human.
[/quote]
We've had right to die legislation for a while now. It's
physician controlled. Originally it was for the terminally ill
but it's recently been modified to cover euthanasia even if
death is not foreseeable... I like that there are humans
involved in the process.
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Canada#:~:text=Suicide%20was%20decriminalized%20in%20Canada,criminal%20prohibition%20was%20struck%20down.
#Post#: 2041--------------------------------------------------
Re: Elon Musk says ‘civilization is going to crumble’ if people
don’t have more children
By: Phil Potts Date: December 12, 2021, 3:32 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=74.msg2036#msg2036
date=1639258746]
[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=74.msg2023#msg2023
date=1639164470]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2013#msg2013
date=1639100247]
[quote author=RE link=topic=74.msg2012#msg2012 date=1639093946]
[quote author=moniker link=topic=74.msg2010#msg2010
date=1639091773]
Does anyone know why Elon is playing the good cop now?
[/quote]
One can only guess, but clearly there are three problems for
Elon.
1- fewer consumers of Teslas
2- Fewer slaves to build Teslas
3- Insufficient growth in sales to pay off his unbelievably deep
well of debt
RE
[/quote]
It's ostensibly true they want to replace gas engines with
electric ones because it's easier to shut off the electricity
than to cut off the gas. If you start discontinuing gas
production some people will get wise to what's going on and take
evasive action, but when you turn off the lights everything goes
dark in an instant. So to channel Evergrande and Hemingway, you
will not go bankrupt in 2 stages-first gradually then all at
once-but only all at once. And with Evergrande slow as
mollasses.
But I think it's more likely he wants to appear to be nice so he
can insert a chip into your brain while you are caught off
guard.
[/quote]
He's Asperger's, so has a hard time not saying what he's
thinking; such as us being cyborgs without knowing it, always
online, more guarded but pointed remarks about covid, and simply
stating the obvious on reproduction being necessary to a species
survival.
I don't think it's the same as the Henry Ford business model for
the masses, the cars are too expensive. It seems he sells dreams
to investors and green solutions for govts needing to meet
targets more than anything. Rides on a SpaceX rocket ship is a
niche market. It remains to be seen how many people will still
be driving in the future, I don't think it's going to be
anywhere near as many as now. Tesla will probably be well placed
to supply company managers and uber drivers.
[/quote]
Musk know what attracts attention. He is a showman. 'More
humans' is controversial, an utterance that is pure Musk.
[/quote]
Relavant to the Neuralink Tower of Babel he is all in on with
Bill:
HTML https://www.corbettreport.com/nwnw20211209/
#Post#: 2051--------------------------------------------------
World population forecast to decline for the first time in centu
ries
By: RE Date: December 13, 2021, 4:04 pm
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...and so it begins...
RE
HTML https://nationalpost.com/news/world-population-forecasted-to-decline-for-the-first-time-in-centuries-study-says
World population forecast to decline for the first time in
centuries
The last time that global population declined was in the mid
14th century, due to the Black Plague'
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