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       #Post#: 2927--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: K-Dog Date: February 22, 2022, 7:27 am
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       Pucking MSNBC Claims Putin is wrong in claiming the Ukraine was
       once part of Russia.
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       width=350]
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       Russia under Alexander I
       [move]Yeah, I  don't think so MSNBC[/move]
       #Post#: 2929--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: Digwe Must Date: February 22, 2022, 9:48 am
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       [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=70.msg2927#msg2927
       date=1645536473]
       Pucking MSNBC Claims Putin is wrong in claiming the Ukraine was
       once part of Russia.
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       width=350]
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       Russia under Alexander I
       [move]Yeah, I  don't think so MSNBC[/move]
       [/quote]In late February 1943 (just one long human lifetime ago)
       the Soviets were pushing back the axis coalition in exactly the
       region in dispute right now.  They were slaughtering each other
       in the Donbass. The forces the Russians were fighting were
       Hungarian, Romanian, Italian, rebel Ukrainian  and German.  As
       the Nazis had swept across the Ukraine in the previous 1.5
       years, the Russians burned everything the Nazis might find
       useful.  Everything.  Millions died.  They were killed by the
       Nazis or died of starvation, exposure and disease.  Millions.
       The Ukraine was drenched in blood - and that is an
       understatement.  This, of course followed the axis defeat at
       Stalingrad and around the sea of Azov.
       Yeah, the Russians might just have an interest in maintaining a
       buffer on their western border.
       #Post#: 2930--------------------------------------------------
       Germany halts Nord Stream 2 and Russia responds with a stark war
       ning
       By: RE Date: February 23, 2022, 4:39 am
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       When will Vlad turn off the gas valve?
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       Germany halts Nord Stream 2 and Russia responds with a stark
       warning
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       #Post#: 2935--------------------------------------------------
       Russia launches military attack on Ukraine with reports of explo
       sions and troops crossing border
       By: RE Date: February 24, 2022, 4:45 am
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       Vlad the Impaler gets serious.
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       Russia launches military attack on Ukraine with reports of
       explosions and troops crossing border
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       #Post#: 2938--------------------------------------------------
       Russian troops advance on Kyiv as Ukrainian leader pleads for he
       lp
       By: RE Date: February 25, 2022, 3:02 am
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       Vlad does the BLITZKRIEG!
       I am surprised he is going for Kyiv.  The Ruskies don't have the
       same support there that they have in Donbass.
       No matter what economic sanctions the West drops on, as long as
       Russia can trade with China, they can launder money through
       there.
       It still does not look like NATO will confront Mother Russia
       directly with military force.  If they do, it's WWIII in Europe.
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       Russian troops advance on Kyiv as Ukrainian leader pleads for
       help
       RE
       #Post#: 2942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Russian troops advance on Kyiv as Ukrainian leader pleads fo
       r help
       By: Phil Potts Date: February 25, 2022, 5:00 am
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       [quote author=RE link=topic=70.msg2938#msg2938 date=1645779725]
       Vlad does the BLITZKRIEG!
       I am surprised he is going for Kyiv.  The Ruskies don't have the
       same support there that they have in Donbass.
       No matter what economic sanctions the West drops on, as long as
       Russia can trade with China, they can launder money through
       there.
       It still does not look like NATO will confront Mother Russia
       directly with military force.  If they do, it's WWIII in Europe.
  HTML https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-president-stays-put-russian-invaders-advance-2022-02-25/
       Russian troops advance on Kyiv as Ukrainian leader pleads for
       help
       RE
       [/quote]
       If they just return fire from the Russian enclaves it changes
       nothing that hasn't already been happening for the past 8 yrs,
       mercenaries and arms can freely flow in forever. Expect an
       election at the end of the operation. Problem is its pretext for
       the US pumping more missiles and troops into all other countries
       bordering Russia, like Poland and Finland.
       Are you getting lots of msm interviews with always women
       Ukrainians who don't sound even slightly foreign, yet talking
       about their frequent visits and close family still there? Who
       sound uncannily like fellow journalists with lots of very long
       and well prepared answers patronizing the Ukrainians without any
       of the "we need help from nato, now' as the only answer from any
       real ukie? Always talk of bravery and resilience, the same word
       on all lips, just like with newsreaders who all get the same
       brief and use the same word of the day in other news. Everyone
       always hearing explosions assuredly attacks on civilians, but
       zero reports of civilian casualties.
       Here was my reply to a friend on day 1, at the start of the
       week:
       So just as he indicated, as soon as the Olympics were over he
       had to do something about the intense shelling in the Russian
       enclaves. I think they will run out of ukies wanting to die and
       bases inside ukraine to launch drones from in a few months.
       China has a lot of robotic unmanned gizmos they will be wanting
       to test in battle and so much the better if it's not their own
       war, although they will be financing the whole Russian operation
       in return for favourable oil and gas contracts. Supply chain
       shocks and stockpiling of things like fertilizer food and ad
       blue now about 5x the price last year are really an act of war
       anyway.
       The intention is most likely to create an expensive quagmire for
       Russia while getting the same level of contracting spending as
       Afghanistan and on a continuous basis again. What could possibly
       go wrong?
       #Post#: 2947--------------------------------------------------
       Russian President Putin tells Ukrainian troops to overthrow thei
       r own country's leadership
       By: RE Date: February 25, 2022, 1:59 pm
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       Will they do it?
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       #Post#: 2953--------------------------------------------------
       Battle moves into Kyiv as Ukrainians fight to keep control of th
       eir capital
       By: RE Date: February 26, 2022, 3:43 am
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       It looks as though Vlad can take Ukraine, but can he  hold on to
       it?
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       Battle moves into Kyiv as Ukrainians fight to keep control of
       their capital
       RE
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       Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
       By: RE Date: February 26, 2022, 2:38 pm
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       If they are cut from SWIFT, the Ruskies will just launder money
       through the Chinese.  Russia is not Iran.
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       Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
       RE
       #Post#: 2956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
       By: Phil Potts Date: February 26, 2022, 3:20 pm
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       [quote author=RE link=topic=70.msg2955#msg2955 date=1645907927]
       If they are cut from SWIFT, the Ruskies will just launder money
       through the Chinese.  Russia is not Iran.
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       Europe close to approving SWIFT, but Germany remains wary
       RE
       [/quote]
       No mention of how the euros are going to pay for Russian oil,
       gas and wheat without swift, guess they don't need it that much.
       If it gets done, every major military spender like India and
       little republic that bought Kalashnikov rifles or mig jets in
       the last 40 yrs and want more, or still need parts, will be
       signing bilateral agreements bypassing the petrodollar
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