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       Geopolitics Errata.
       By: RE Date: October 8, 2021, 9:18 pm
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       I am tired of the [blank]-exit terminology.  Let's call this a
       "Polockotomy"  lol.
       Economically, the EU could give a shit about the Poles,  the
       country is not the economic and financial center the UK is (or
       was).  Geopolitically though, Poland provides a military buffer
       with Mother Russia.  If they exit the EU, who will they turn to
       for help?  You guessed it, Vlad the Impaler.  At least lining up
       with Vlad, the Poles might get enough NG to make it thru the
       winter.
       Militarily, NATO cannot afford to lose Poland as a forward base
       for missiles.  The Pollocks know this and so they are holding
       the EU for ransom.  It will be an iteresting side show to watch.
       Poland stokes fears of leaving EU in 'Polexit'
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: K-Dog Date: October 8, 2021, 9:30 pm
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: Phil Potts Date: October 9, 2021, 1:57 am
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       They should practice invading Poland from both sides again. Ah
       lebenstraum
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: Eddie Date: October 9, 2021, 1:41 pm
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       Poland is an emerging power. And pretty damn right-wing. Poland
       bears watching.
       George Friedman, my favorite geopolitics prognosticator, thinks
       a war in Europe is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: RE Date: October 9, 2021, 5:34 pm
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=70.msg1180#msg1180
       date=1633804864]
       Poland is an emerging power. And pretty damn right-wing. Poland
       bears watching.
       George Friedman, my favorite geopolitics prognosticator, thinks
       a war in Europe is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
       [/quote]
       The EU is definitely a fragile federation, and it's hard to see
       how it can hold together in the face of the energy and
       immigration headwinds.  On the other hand, it's also hard to see
       how any kind of "hot war" can be won.  Everybody has Cruise
       Missiles that will easily wipe out tanks or large infantry
       divisions.  It doesn't even need to go nuclear.  Mother Russia
       wins a Cold War simply by turning off the gas pipelines.
       I definitely can't see the Pollocks marching on Russia, Germany
       or France.  They would have to wait to be attacked first to get
       the FSoA to step in.
       Warsaw is definitely low on my recommended list of Big Shities
       to live in.
       RE
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: RE Date: October 16, 2021, 1:04 pm
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       Lunga vita Mussolini!
       Tens of thousands demonstrate in Rome against neo-fascists
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: Phil Potts Date: October 16, 2021, 3:47 pm
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       [quote author=RE link=topic=70.msg1289#msg1289 date=1634407480]
       Lunga vita Mussolini!
       Tens of thousands demonstrate in Rome against neo-fascists
  HTML https://apnews.com/article/business-europe-rome-italy-49b05744b74f06230af52e7f829e1006
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       [/quote]
       More on this, also Neutral Switzerland:
  HTML https://youtu.be/ygUeQF_9l-w
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: RE Date: October 16, 2021, 6:54 pm
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       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=70.msg1293#msg1293
       date=1634417227]
       [quote author=RE link=topic=70.msg1289#msg1289 date=1634407480]
       Lunga vita Mussolini!
       Tens of thousands demonstrate in Rome against neo-fascists
  HTML https://apnews.com/article/business-europe-rome-italy-49b05744b74f06230af52e7f829e1006
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       [/quote]
       More on this, also Neutral Switzerland:
  HTML https://youtu.be/ygUeQF_9l-w
       [/quote]
       Well, you definitely cannot accuse the Swiss as being
       Trumpovetsky  Dopes, and they are coming in more from the Left
       than the Right here.  Globally speaking, both poles of the
       political spectrum are mainly pissed off at being FORCED by Da
       Goobermint
       Because so many places on Earth (like Africa) are unlikely to
       get anywhere NEAR full vaccination and because airlines still
       fly and oil tankers and cargo ships still sail, the virus will
       still continue to move around and mutate, even with a 100%
       effective vaccine, which none of them are.  So, every time you
       get a new hotspot, you'll get a new set of lockdowns and
       restrictions.  It could bounce around like this for years.
       Meanwhile, we remain short on waitresses, cooks and
       truckdrivers.
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       Invasions
       By: RE Date: October 23, 2021, 2:24 pm
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       Back in ancient times, Invasions of large armies happened quite
       regularly, as one society tried to conquer another, take their
       land and enslave the other population.  Nearly all invasions
       were land-based, few maritime invasions were succesful. The
       Muslim conquest of Spain across the Mediterranean would be one
       exception, but they eventually got pushed back to Africa.  In
       colonial times, the Spanish tried to invade England, but
       unfortunately most of the ships got sonk in a storm.
       The last BIG invasios took place in WWII  The Nazis invaded all
       of continental Europe, quite successfully for a while.  The
       tactic was Speed & Surprize, the BLITZKRIEG.  However, they
       never were able to invade Britain, just a short hop across the
       English Channel.  Nor could they invade the Scandinavian
       countries across the North Sea.  They remained neutral for the
       duration of the war.  Nor could they invade Switzerland,
       mountains are no good for tank battles.  They tried and failed
       to invade Mother Russia, but it was too big and the weather too
       harsh.
       The final invasion of WWII was a maritime one, D-Day.  It had to
       be carefully concealed for time and location, and even so was
       extremely costly.  The Brits never could have pulled it off by
       themselve, it took the Amerikan entrance into the war to pull it
       off.
       Nowadays, maritime military invasions between large powers are
       impossible.  Neither the Ruskies or the Chines could invade the
       FSoA, nor could the FSoA invade them.  There can be no surprise,
       satellites would pick up the ships being loaded up before they
       ever left port.  Cruise Missiles would sink the ships before
       they got anywhere near enough to unload.  So fear of invasion as
       a rationale for a large military is a phantom threat.
       Invasions still happen of course on the military level, of small
       countrries by larger ones.  The Ruskies tried to invade
       Afghanistan before we did, bothg attempts failed.  In antiquity,
       Alexander the Great tried to invade Afghanistan, he failed too.
       It's where large armies go to die.  We tried to invade Vietnam
       and Iraq, those invasions failed also.  Military invasion is
       quite hopeless these days, but there other forms of invasion.
       Economic invasion has been the primary method of taking control
       since the end of WWII by all the main powers.  The Chinese hold
       most of East Asia in thrall, the Ruskiess hold most of Easterb
       Europe and Central Asia and the FSoa holds Central and South
       America and Western Europe.  Africa is a perpetual battleground
       for all the major powers.
       The other form of invasion moving in the other direction is
       migration, both legal and illegal.  This is slower than economic
       or military invasion, but nowadays much more effective.  It's
       changing the demographics of all the Western countries and
       Mother Russia too.  Not so much China, which until now has had
       plenty of its own people to do the scut work for the Elite.
       Internal political problems and eventually revolutions will
       emerge from this.
       I dout we will ever see direct military confrontation with the
       Ruskies or the Chinese.  Even the Illuminati know that the War
       Games scenario, Global Thermonuclear War cannot be won.  "The
       only solution is not to play".  So they continue to thrust and
       parry, trying to edge out an advantage here or there.
       Meanwhile, inside their own borders, social dissolution proceeds
       apace.  The danger of war we all face comes from within, not
       from without.
       The question this leaves us with is which of the 3 main powers
       will be FIRST to descend into anarchy and Civil War?  Opinions
       welcome.
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       Re: Geopolitics Errata.
       By: Phil Potts Date: October 24, 2021, 2:42 am
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       I don't think a world war is out of the question and hopefully
       not nuke. It can be a last ditch effort to save the dollar. I
       expect us to lose though, the pentagrams computer wargaming has
       not won against either china alone or Russia alone, so
       definitely not against both at once. The reason is as you
       mentioned, it's a long distance invasion.
       Either one of Russia and China would be mad to sit it out while
       the other fought us and then pbe next in line. The ever closer
       ties with military cooperation between those countries make it
       even more unlikely they would not act as one. All the bluster we
       have ignores that and plans to fight china alone, which is the
       best way to lose any fight, not facing reality.
       To borrow a trumpism, 'rocket man' should manage to hit Japan.
       He's likely to be miles off target, but it's highly populated
       enough to still do a lot of damage. If the Himalayas become even
       slightly radioactive with nukes by china, India and Pakistan,
       billions of people relying on the snow melt in their rivers will
       be very sick. Israel and Iran also likely to tee off as well as
       numerous other border and resource disputes.
       The saying 'the generals are always still fighting the last war'
       or whatever it is, means the navy is now as obsolete as cavalry.
       Right now all the navy's are just used for threatening lower
       tech countries, stoking tensions between the major league and
       wasting untold amounts of oil. Russia and China have the
       hypersonics, we don't, so it's mostly our own ships going to be
       sunk making it hard to send more of anything from home, leaving
       only what bases surround the Eurasian continent to operate from
       and that is if they are not also effectively hit by missiles.
       Who is better at hacking the guidance systems of missiles and
       other communications will determine the outcome. I think Russia
       and China are a lot more determined, defending their homelands
       as well. The F-35 boondoggle among others is another
       disadvantage for us.
       All that is based on a brief war where big missiles do a lot of
       damage very quickly and force a surrender. If it was to be like
       others in history that go for years, then available manpower and
       manufacturing capabilities (war of attrition) which determines
       who wins are really against us, especially when so many
       components are made in China. You need air superiority to hit
       their manufacturing, which is a long shot. This is because the
       MIC is profit driven above anything else.
       I don't know of opposing factions ready for civil war in Russia
       or China. They're in a renaissance that would have a long way to
       go before naturally becoming weak. It's just our wishful
       thinking that china is on the verge of overthrowing the govt.
       They are mostly indifferent to govt while enjoying new found
       wealth, or proud nationalistic supporters. It's only available
       energy that is going to rain on that party. What gets consumed
       in shipping for their global trade would need to go back to
       sailing to carry on. How many decades it could continue as is,
       is a question for someone else.
       Putin has something like 90% support and a few years left as at
       least a figurehead. They have plenty of resources and quite used
       to sanctions, so are in good shape. Their biggest worry would be
       war taking out the energy extraction and transportation
       infrastructure and then trying to deal with -40 winter temps.
       I'm not sure the US is divided geographically in a way that it
       was in the last civil war, although the political divide and
       hate is definitely sufficient. Democracy looks dysfunctional as
       a system of govt as a result. Great for distracting and dividing
       from incompetent leadership, but also allowing for totally
       incompetent and corrupt leadership as much as any tin pot
       dictator or banana republic ever had.
       We are going ahead with a pol pot Khmer rouge or Stalinist purge
       of the untermenschen right now. Any states that can resist that
       will swell with new arrivals and they would all be of one mind
       in what they want from the state govt. What would happen after
       that, if the federal govt did not prevent it by making over
       riding laws and economic coercion cutting flow of funds is an
       open question. The federal govt would also need to enforce the
       over riding laws. The US is persuing a softer approach than
       other western countries pand I believe that is because of gun
       rights. State borders have not been closed at any time,
       religious exemptions are allowed with the sackings, and there is
       no being barred from bars, restaurants, gyms and other stores
       that I know of. If that progresses in some states and not
       others, migration will happen and then possible insurrection by
       some states.
       Anarchy is preferred to tyranny for me, even if assets become
       worthless and lost. I see a lot more intervention than just
       natural causes of collapse happening. The ratcheting up of
       control over our lives is being done to keep control as the
       pressure on people gets worse.
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