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#Post#: 1114--------------------------------------------------
Madness of crowds.
By: K-Dog Date: October 5, 2021, 10:22 am
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HTML https://ugetube.com/watch/melbourne-protesters-broke-through-the-police-line-sept-18-2021_DjnrDub1OTYhHKp.html
There are more tubes than You Tube. Tubes where stupid people
post who would be taken down from YT in a heartbeat. A few are
havens for the vax-**** crazy. Calling them stupid is not
arrogant. It is reality.
But they also have video YT won't show. The link at the top is
to a tube that won't let you easily download a video so I just
post the link. I could snag it but they don't make it easy at
UGETube so I'll just put up the link.
Melbourne, about three weeks ago.
VAXSHEETCRAZY
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: RE Date: October 5, 2021, 2:54 pm
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=67.msg1114#msg1114
date=1633447334]
HTML https://ugetube.com/watch/melbourne-protesters-broke-through-the-police-line-sept-18-2021_DjnrDub1OTYhHKp.html
There are more tubes than You Tube. Tubes where stupid people
post who would be taken down from YT in a heartbeat. A few are
havens for the vax-**** crazy. Calling them stupid is not
arrogant. It is reality.
But they also have video YT won't show. The link at the top is
to a tube that won't let you easily download a video so I just
post the link. I could snag it but they don't make it easy at
UGETube so I'll just put up the link.
Melbourne, about three weeks ago.
VAXSHEETCRAZY
[/quote]
That Gestapo detail appears woefully understaffed and under
equipped. Where's their Plexiglass Shields? Where's the
Calvary? No Water Cannon? Oz doesn't have LRAD yet?
Once again, it's all about NUMBERS and Tactics. If the
protesters outnumber the Gestapo 20:1 or more, unless the Pigs
are authorized to use the Heavy Artillery, they're gonna lose.
One can expect they will come better armed in future
confrontations.
RE
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: K-Dog Date: October 5, 2021, 11:05 pm
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That part where they went slow mo in the middle was a nice
touch. We have to find humor where we can.
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: Phil Potts Date: October 6, 2021, 1:27 am
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=67.msg1114#msg1114
date=1633447334]
HTML https://ugetube.com/watch/melbourne-protesters-broke-through-the-police-line-sept-18-2021_DjnrDub1OTYhHKp.html
There are more tubes than You Tube. Tubes where stupid people
post who would be taken down from YT in a heartbeat. A few are
havens for the vax-**** crazy. Calling them stupid is not
arrogant. It is reality.
But they also have video YT won't show. The link at the top is
to a tube that won't let you easily download a video so I just
post the link. I could snag it but they don't make it easy at
UGETube so I'll just put up the link.
Melbourne, about three weeks ago.
VAXSHEETCRAZY
[/quote]
I believe that was Sydney. See the steep banks, the police were
up there spraying the crowd from the sides above after closing
them in at both ends. That's when they broke through the line.
Police then stood on the sides spraying people passing them by.
They knocked down a 70 yr old woman and then two police both
sprayed her in that incident.
Most often police are arriving in the thousands, right now they
are due their own Vax deadlines and a whole heap just went
absent because of it.
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: RE Date: October 6, 2021, 3:23 am
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Although part of the VAX Rebellion comes from FEAR of the VAX
itself and what repercussions that might have, I don't think
that is the main driver. I think it is more a rebellion against
the total control Da Goobermint has over your life and your
body. Similar in some respects to the Abortion isssue, except
it affects both men and women equally. Countless laws tell you
what you can and cannot do, which in aggregate is a form of
Tyranny.
Unlike Bees in a Hive or even a Herd of Buffalo, Homo Saps to
one degree or another have INDEPENDENT minds, and like to make
their own decisions and have some sense of control. It's why
many if not most people would prefer to live as a poor free
person than as a Servant in the house of a rich person.
Individuals crave Freedom; Society demands Conformity and
Obedience. They are diametrically opposed needs, thus the
perpetual conflict between the Rulers and the Ruled.
When times are good, the Ruled generally accept their lot in
life, just periodically grumbling about it over dinner. When
times get bad, the grumbling boils over in a cold McHovel with
no Pork Chops on the table. They're not necessarily stupid
people (although many are), they have just reached the limit of
what they will accept, even if it might be for the social good
as a public health measure.
A real key here in analyzing this problem are all the health
professionals quitting their jobs rather than getting jabbed.
Reasonably intelligent Nurses, Technicians and even some Doctors
too. More than anyone, these folks have to know the risks and
the statistics, at least as reported by Da Goobermint. Still,
they refuse to get vaxxed. There is more going on here than
just plain stupidity.
The real problem now is no longer how many people Covid does or
does not kill, it's how much of the little remaining freedom you
are willing to give up for the "public good". If everyone still
had a warm home, bacon with their eggs and a full tank of gas, I
am sure VAX rates would be higher. Sadly of course, more and
more do not have these comforts of living inside the Industrial
Civilization.
So they will rebel. It's inevitable.
RE
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: K-Dog Date: October 6, 2021, 4:08 pm
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[quote] I think it is more a rebellion against the total control
Da Goobermint has over your life and your body.[/quote]
[img]
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Some smart guy wrote this on his website Monday:
[quote]I can explain the mental delusion I think. People don't
trust government and the fear in some is so strong, with good
reason, that bad judgements are made. Minds minimize virus
danger. And vaccine danger exaggerates. All of it out of correct
proportion. A certain logic is followed, but the wrong kind of
logic[/quote]
The rest of what you wrote is a correct assessment of human
nature.
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: Phil Potts Date: October 7, 2021, 8:00 am
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[quote author=RE link=topic=67.msg1125#msg1125 date=1633508627]
Although part of the VAX Rebellion comes from FEAR of the VAX
itself and what repercussions that might have, I don't think
that is the main driver. I think it is more a rebellion against
the total control Da Goobermint has over your life and your
body. Similar in some respects to the Abortion isssue, except
it affects both men and women equally. Countless laws tell you
what you can and cannot do, which in aggregate is a form of
Tyranny.
Unlike Bees in a Hive or even a Herd of Buffalo, Homo Saps to
one degree or another have INDEPENDENT minds, and like to make
their own decisions and have some sense of control. It's why
many if not most people would prefer to live as a poor free
person than as a Servant in the house of a rich person.
Individuals crave Freedom; Society demands Conformity and
Obedience. They are diametrically opposed needs, thus the
perpetual conflict between the Rulers and the Ruled.
When times are good, the Ruled generally accept their lot in
life, just periodically grumbling about it over dinner. When
times get bad, the grumbling boils over in a cold McHovel with
no Pork Chops on the table. They're not necessarily stupid
people (although many are), they have just reached the limit of
what they will accept, even if it might be for the social good
as a public health measure.
A real key here in analyzing this problem are all the health
professionals quitting their jobs rather than getting jabbed.
Reasonably intelligent Nurses, Technicians and even some Doctors
too. More than anyone, these folks have to know the risks and
the statistics, at least as reported by Da Goobermint. Still,
they refuse to get vaxxed. There is more going on here than
just plain stupidity.
The real problem now is no longer how many people Covid does or
does not kill, it's how much of the little remaining freedom you
are willing to give up for the "public good". If everyone still
had a warm home, bacon with their eggs and a full tank of gas, I
am sure VAX rates would be higher. Sadly of course, more and
more do not have these comforts of living inside the Industrial
Civilization.
So they will rebel. It's inevitable.
RE
[/quote]
The Sydney protests weekend after weekend were only about
lockdown, as there were no Vax mandates then for anyone. The
Melbourne ones were probably 50:50, because they definitely
coincided with the mandate for the construction industry first
and then the healthworkers the following week. Having said that,
I noticed some guys shouting at the police along the lines of
'its fine for you still getting paid, but I've got a family to
feed and I haven't worked for 2 months!'
I agree the nurses are the ones getting a good picture of what
really is presenting. My estimate is 1-2% get a bad side effect.
That's because I was told QEH is getting about 20 admission each
day with a severe reaction to Vax, mainly heart related. There
are only 2 main public hospitals in that city and population is
about 1.5m. Reduce that to 1m because .5 would be too young or
holding out.
So assuming RAH also gets 20 a day, it's total 40 a day. 40X30 =
1200/month, X 6 for the rollout over past 6 months= 7200 total.
From 1m is about 1 in 140, or 1.4%
Conservatively call it 1%, then 3% for future years, as we are
hearing about boosters every 4 months now. That's because
effectiveness of Pfizer drops after 4 months. Over ten years
it's 30%, assuming risk remains constant with each shot.
The flight surgeon for fort hood in Texas has actually grounded
all pilots and flight crew because of this blood clot and heart
attack problem. I won't say that's some over-reaction, because
she's the expert, not me.
I'm trying to go through what animal studies are available to
make sense of where it might be going. I'm not going to either
accept or reject that all the monkeys and most of the mice died
in the covid trials before they were stopped for now.
It seems mRNA was a great breakthrough technology about 15yrs
ago in treating some genetic disorders, and animal studies of
8-12 weeks showed no problem in that application. Consider a
mouse might only live a year, so 2-3 months could be like 10-20
yrs for us.
Moving on to use as a vaccine and it's not so positive. One
early experiment around 2006 showed all the ferrets got
hepatitis. They have clearly known for at least 5 yrs that the
mRNA vaccine makes your immune system like a good guard dog that
later wags its tail and wants a pat from the postman virus.
That's all right there in black and white in the conclusions,
it's even a disclaimer from the scientists who gave us the covid
vaccines that they were not giving any guarantee they would work
after 6 months. Mentioning it just wasn't in the script Fauci
and Gates gave their lackeys, our leaders.
The focus will be on recombinant technologies to quickly produce
reliable vaccines as well as "universal" vaccines that would
elicit immunity against parts of the virus that do not change
from year to year.
HTML https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1W4315
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: RE Date: October 7, 2021, 9:59 am
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Lockdown definitely bugs people more than VAX. A couple of %
get sick from the Jab, but about EVERYONE gets Cabin Fever. How
do we punish people for disobeying the law? We put them in
Jail. AKA, the "Lock-Up". What is a "Lock-Down" other than
House Arrest? Being trapped in your home all the time is only
slightly better than Jail, believe me I know. It's also
obviously incompatible with most economic activity. As a brief,
temporary solution it's tolerable, but past maybe a month or
two, most people go nuts.
The VAX of course was supposed to be the Permanent Solution, but
obviously it is not. Finland has now joined Sweden and Denmark
in limiting the Moderna VAX. The solution here is the FINAL
SOLUTION. Just become accustomed to a certain percentage of
DEAD PEOPLE every year from COVID! More people die in Car
Accidents than this, and we have become accustomed to that,
right?
As long as Tesla produces self-driving Hearses and we produce
Robotic Gravediggers, we will be OK.
RE
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: Digwe Must Date: October 7, 2021, 11:58 am
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Usually brining up John M Greer sets K-Dog's hair on fire and we
wind up with the spittle flecked invective. ( I get the
reasons) I think this column of JMG's is worth the risk. It is
relevant to your conversation here.
HTML https://www.ecosophia.net/that-untraversed-land/
By the way, when I share something (realizing it may only be of
interest to one or two of you ) it doesn't mean I am advocating
for the author or the point of view. It's just that I think the
piece adds to the discussion, has related interest or is
particularly well written.
This quote from RE is great and nails it- in my opinion.
[quote author=RE link=topic=67.msg1125#msg1125 date=1633508627]
Although part of the VAX Rebellion comes from FEAR of the VAX
itself and what repercussions that might have, I don't think
that is the main driver. I think it is more a rebellion against
the total control Da Goobermint has over your life and your
body. Similar in some respects to the Abortion isssue, except
it affects both men and women equally. Countless laws tell you
what you can and cannot do, which in aggregate is a form of
Tyranny.
Unlike Bees in a Hive or even a Herd of Buffalo, Homo Saps to
one degree or another have INDEPENDENT minds, and like to make
their own decisions and have some sense of control. It's why
many if not most people would prefer to live as a poor free
person than as a Servant in the house of a rich person.
Individuals crave Freedom; Society demands Conformity and
Obedience. They are diametrically opposed needs, thus the
perpetual conflict between the Rulers and the Ruled.
When times are good, the Ruled generally accept their lot in
life, just periodically grumbling about it over dinner. When
times get bad, the grumbling boils over in a cold McHovel with
no Pork Chops on the table. They're not necessarily stupid
people (although many are), they have just reached the limit of
what they will accept, even if it might be for the social good
as a public health measure.
A real key here in analyzing this problem are all the health
professionals quitting their jobs rather than getting jabbed.
Reasonably intelligent Nurses, Technicians and even some Doctors
too. More than anyone, these folks have to know the risks and
the statistics, at least as reported by Da Goobermint. Still,
they refuse to get vaxxed. There is more going on here than
just plain stupidity.
The real problem now is no longer how many people Covid does or
does not kill, it's how much of the little remaining freedom you
are willing to give up for the "public good". If everyone still
had a warm home, bacon with their eggs and a full tank of gas, I
am sure VAX rates would be higher. Sadly of course, more and
more do not have these comforts of living inside the Industrial
Civilization.
So they will rebel. It's inevitable.
RE
[/quote]
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Re: Madness of crowds.
By: K-Dog Date: October 7, 2021, 4:24 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=67.msg1139#msg1139 date=1633618775]
[spoiler]
Lockdown definitely bugs people more than VAX. A couple of %
get sick from the Jab, but about EVERYONE gets Cabin Fever. How
do we punish people for disobeying the law? We put them in
Jail. AKA, the "Lock-Up". What is a "Lock-Down" other than
House Arrest? Being trapped in your home all the time is only
slightly better than Jail, believe me I know. It's also
obviously incompatible with most economic activity. As a brief,
temporary solution it's tolerable, but past maybe a month or
two, most people go nuts.
The VAX of course was supposed to be the Permanent Solution, but
obviously it is not. Finland has now joined Sweden and Denmark
in limiting the Moderna VAX. The solution here is the FINAL
SOLUTION. Just become accustomed to a certain percentage of
DEAD PEOPLE every year from COVID! More people die in Car
Accidents than this, and we have become accustomed to that,
right?
As long as Tesla produces self-driving Hearses and we produce
Robotic Gravediggers, we will be OK.
[/spoiler]
RE
[/quote]
In-Depth: Can a simple technique during COVID vaccination stop
myocarditis?
SAN DIEGO (KGTV) -- Some newly published research suggests the
rare cases of heart inflammation linked to the COVID-19 vaccines
might be caused by an accidental injection in the wrong spot.
All of the authorized vaccines are designed to be injected into
a muscle, not a blood vessel.
HTML https://www.10news.com/news/in-depth/in-depth-can-a-simple-technique-stop-myocarditis-after-covid-vaccination
If the vaccine does not go straight into the bloodstream. No
problemo.
But Politicians, particularly in AU are more interested in
people getting jabbed than getting jabbed right.
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