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Re: More Wheat Errata
By: RE Date: May 15, 2022, 1:47 pm
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=66.msg3388#msg3388
date=1652635053]
Normally they don't export much. Before the heatwave
expectations had been for a bumper crop. Plans were to replace
some of the lost Ukraine wheat with Indian wheat.
[/quote]
In addition to Ukraine and India, Brazil, Peru and Argentina all
are experiencing "smaller than expected" wheat harvests. Who's
gonna make up the shortfall?
RE
#Post#: 3392--------------------------------------------------
Re: More Wheat Errata
By: Phil Potts Date: May 15, 2022, 8:43 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=66.msg3391#msg3391 date=1652640428]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=66.msg3388#msg3388
date=1652635053]
Normally they don't export much. Before the heatwave
expectations had been for a bumper crop. Plans were to replace
some of the lost Ukraine wheat with Indian wheat.
[/quote]
In addition to Ukraine and India, Brazil, Peru and Argentina all
are experiencing "smaller than expected" wheat harvests. Who's
gonna make up the shortfall?
RE
[/quote]
us is down 5-10% on wheat, I think digwe posted. Oz one of the
biggest in the world has had 2 major east coast floods in short
succession recently so will also impact.
#Post#: 3406--------------------------------------------------
The Energy/Food Crisis Is Far Worse than Most Americans Realize
By: RE Date: May 18, 2022, 2:59 pm
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They'll know soon enough. Classic Heinberg article.
HTML https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-05-16/the-energy-food-crisis-is-far-worse-than-most-americans-realize/
The Energy/Food Crisis Is Far Worse than Most Americans Realize
RE
#Post#: 3407--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Energy/Food Crisis Is Far Worse than Most Americans Real
ize
By: moniker Date: May 18, 2022, 8:21 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=66.msg3406#msg3406 date=1652903985]
They'll know soon enough. Classic Heinberg article.
HTML https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-05-16/the-energy-food-crisis-is-far-worse-than-most-americans-realize/
The Energy/Food Crisis Is Far Worse than Most Americans Realize
RE
[/quote]
I have been very pessimistic about their plans for the world for
some time now, but I was skeptical that they could collapse the
whole thing.
But it looks like they are on the way to accomplishing their
goal of exterminating most of the people.
It will end in a tremendous crescendo of war, famine, pandemic,
pestilence and who knows what else.
#Post#: 3408--------------------------------------------------
Putin has Wheat
By: K-Dog Date: May 19, 2022, 2:06 am
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[quote author=RE link=topic=66.msg3391#msg3391 date=1652640428]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=66.msg3388#msg3388
date=1652635053]
Normally they don't export much. Before the heatwave
expectations had been for a bumper crop. Plans were to replace
some of the lost Ukraine wheat with Indian wheat.
[/quote]
In addition to Ukraine and India, Brazil, Peru and Argentina all
are experiencing "smaller than expected" wheat harvests. Who's
gonna make up the shortfall?
RE
[/quote]
"Droughts, flooding and heatwaves threaten output from the U.S.
to France and India, compounding shrinking production in
Ukraine. Just about every major producing region is facing one
threat or another. The one notable exception is Russia, which is
shaping up for a bumper crop and stands to benefit from the
rising prices and limited supply elsewhere.
Who will get us out of this mess?
[img]
HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.jZckKqc-Rmk0-rvyUQ-Q_gHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1[/img]
Food crisis deepens as global wheat harvest is threatened by
extreme weather
As Russia’s invasion chokes off Ukrainian wheat exports, pushing
up bread and noodle prices, the global harvest faces an added
test: extreme weather. Droughts, flooding and heatwaves
threaten output from the US to France and India, compounding
shrinking production in Ukraine.
[img
width=700]
HTML https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/tillage/grain-prices/a1b9d/41653385.ece/AUTOCROP/w1240/il%20biden%20meets%20farmers[/img]
Keeping farmers in the loop: US President Joe Biden speaks to
tillage farmers in Kankakee, Illinois.
HTML https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/tillage/grain-prices/food-crisis-deepens-as-global-wheat-harvest-is-threatened-by-extreme-weather-41653391.html
#Post#: 3415--------------------------------------------------
‘We are going to die’: Food shortages worsen Sri Lanka crisis
By: RE Date: May 21, 2022, 3:44 am
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Will we get stats on how many die & how fast?
HTML https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/20/we-are-going-to-die-food-crisis-worsens-misery-of-sri-lankans
‘We are going to die’: Food shortages worsen Sri Lanka crisis
RE
#Post#: 3431--------------------------------------------------
With food prices climbing, the U.N. is warning of crippling glob
al shortages
By: RE Date: May 24, 2022, 4:41 am
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Can U Spell S-T-A-R-V-A-T-I-O-N?
HTML https://www.npr.org/2022/05/23/1100592132/united-nations-food-shortages
With food prices climbing, the U.N. is warning of crippling
global shortages
RE
#Post#: 3467--------------------------------------------------
Soaring fertiliser prices force farmers to rethink
By: RE Date: May 28, 2022, 6:38 am
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HTML https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61385111
Soaring fertiliser prices force farmers to rethink
#Post#: 3471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Food Errata
By: Digwe Must Date: May 28, 2022, 1:47 pm
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Feeding critters during collapse
We all know about the inflation in food prices. Of course,
animal feed is jumping just as fast in price as human food - or
faster. I've written about this before. Consider this an
update.
Chickens. Yesterday at the feed store Mrs. Digwe paid $75 for 3
bags of chicken feed (120lb.). The cheapest available was $19 a
40lb sack -it's a local brand that has really deteriorated in
quality over the last year while rising in price from $11. The
better quality cost $28! each. This is double the price from a
year ago. We've begun fermenting the grain, resulting in a
roughly 25% reduction in consumption. It's hard to tell
precisely because at the same time we began doing this (early
spring) the chickens started getting some good nutrition from
bugs, green growth and scratch. The eggs are getting that nice
orange color and the girls seem happy and enthusiastic about the
fermented grain.
So... mealworms. I'm a closeted worm wrangler. I'm raising
mealworms in a closet. If it works out and proves practical and
economical I will expand the tiny operation. Of course the
chickens are very pro-mealworm. Northwest Seed and Supply in
Spokane sells 5lb. bags of dried mealworms for $99!!. I've also
started a bin of red wiggler compost worms and will expand those
to other bins and compost as the weather warms. We are in the
wrong climate for soldier flies - but I think they're very
appealing from an efficiency point of view.
I'm also trying to grow some duckweed in a very small tub - just
to see if I can. I keep about 10,000 gallons of water in
Walmart backyard pools, uphill from the house, during fire
season and I'd like to try and grow some duckweed in them.
Unfortunately, the nights may be too cool for the duckweed to
grow rapidly enough to make sense.
I've mentioned that I buy oats by the ton from a local farmer,
the same guy I buy hay from. This year I'm also going to get a
ton of barley to see how the chickens like it sprouted. They'll
eat sprouted oats, but the oats seem to take longer to actually
grow a tail. Sprouted barley has been recommended to me as a
good feed nutritionally. We'll see. I can't grow grain here
because we are in the forested hills and I simply don't have the
right ground. In a pinch I can feed alfalfa hay to the chickens
and geese - but they won't lay well - or at all- on just that.
We're trying to expand the garden this year to add to the
chickens' diet. I'd like to grow a small mountain of spuds if
the growing season is any more benign than the furnace we had
last year. They have to be cooked, of course, before feeding to
a mono-gastric critter, but because we heat with wood that won't
be an additional expense.
I was very concerned about the fruit trees after the heat stress
of last year. However, the stress seems to have prompted the
trees - especially the plums and pears - to put out a massive
amount of blooms this spring. It has been cool and damp so far,
which makes it a bit challenging for the bees and other
pollinators. If we do get a good yield of fruit that will also
help with the animal feed. The geese, turkeys and chickens all
come running when some pulp from processing or culls come there
way. As I've also mentioned before, we have numerous seed
bearing trees planted that will someday yield quite a bit of
feed for the birds. Trees take a while and that will be far
enough into the future that I may be planted myself when it
happens.
Sheep and GoatsI could not do the necessary butchering this
winter because my hands (and occasionally back) were so bad. As
a result I have too many sheep and had to buy hay out of season.
Extremely expensive, because of the poor crop last year. The
goats have a wide ranging palate. If I had to I could keep them
alive all winter on fir tree limbs. They eat the needles and
strip the bark with gusto. Our sheep, Navajo Churro, are a
breed developed on rough forage in hard country. So, they do
fairly well when I supplement hay with limbs, brush etc. Of
course we have pasture available now - but I'm trying to let the
pasture recover after last years heat and drought -and I have
too many sheep, so I'm still feeding hay. I have this year's
hay reserved with my farmer - but I expect it to be very
expensive (even though a cool wet May should help with the crop)
and must get my number of critters down.
Dogs We have 5 dogs. I know. My only justification is that 2
of them actually work for a living. We have 3 livestock guardian
dogs, one of which is retired and has claimed a life of ease as
his pension. Then there are 2 small terriers that I have no
justification for. I just like 'em. To be fair, we have
trained one of the little ones to herd the geese and keep the
turkeys out of the garden. As you know, commercial dog food is
getting absurdly expensive. So, when I butcher sheep the dogs
obviously have fresh mutton and lamb to eat. It pains me
sometimes to realize the retail price of the meat I'm giving
them. But they do very well on it. I also get bones from a
local butcher which I render down (or just feed the larger
meatier bones straight). This is really good stuff and they do
well on it also. Being free, the price is right and worth the
work.
Which leads me to my score of the week - maybe the month.
I got a call Thursday from Lyle the butcher. He had a whole
beef in his cooler that had some bone sour. He had to dispose
of the entire carcass. It was on his trailer ready for a trip
to the dump. Did I want it? So, a half hour later I had an
entire 800lb steer on a tarp in front of the garage. One side
was whole. He'd already cut the other side into the large
chunks necessary to process and package. That half was in 3
large trash bags. It was 60 degrees and the flies were out so I
had to move fast. At my age that was no small task. The bone
sour had started in the forequarter which is where it usually
starts. About 80% of the meat was still good but Lyle has
ethics. I owe him a jug of whiskey.
I filled a freezer with beef chunks jammed in as tight as I
could. I also have an old fridge I use just for meat. I took
out all the shelves and bins and it is stacked with milk crates
jammed with meat. Also the freezer in the fridge is packed.
They dogs ate rib eyes that night - complete with the rib.
Because of the pace I had to generate with knives and saw I got
a lot on me. The mess and aroma that I wore did not exactly
appeal to Mrs Digwe. But the dogs loved me. My hands are
killing me - but the CBD cannabis helps with that. I still have
much processing to do - but good quality commercial dogfood goes
for around $2 lb. Maybe a little less on sale. So, this works
well for me.
Now the question becomes where am I going to put the butchered
lambs and sheep. A good problem to have in these times.
As you all know, the cost of farmers' inputs is going to see a
dramatic, continued price rise in food - even if there is a good
crop in the country this year.
Now I need to go burn a brush pile and dig a greenhouse
foundation.
I see I have once again gone on too long.
"Writing is not something necessarily to be ashamed of, but do
it in private and wash your hands afterwards." - Robert
Heinlein
#Post#: 3472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Food Errata
By: RE Date: May 28, 2022, 2:43 pm
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[quote author=Digwe Must link=topic=66.msg3471#msg3471
date=1653763664]
Feeding critters during collapse
We all know about the inflation in food prices. Of course,
animal feed is jumping just as fast in price as human food - or
faster. I've written about this before. Consider this an
update.
Chickens. Yesterday at the feed store Mrs. Digwe paid $75 for 3
bags of chicken feed (120lb.). The cheapest available was $19 a
40lb sack -it's a local brand that has really deteriorated in
quality over the last year while rising in price from $11. The
better quality cost $28! each. This is double the price from a
year ago. We've begun fermenting the grain, resulting in a
roughly 25% reduction in consumption. It's hard to tell
precisely because at the same time we began doing this (early
spring) the chickens started getting some good nutrition from
bugs, green growth and scratch. The eggs are getting that nice
orange color and the girls seem happy and enthusiastic about the
fermented grain.
So... mealworms. I'm a closeted worm wrangler. I'm raising
mealworms in a closet. If it works out and proves practical and
economical I will expand the tiny operation. Of course the
chickens are very pro-mealworm. Northwest Seed and Supply in
Spokane sells 5lb. bags of dried mealworms for $99!!. I've also
started a bin of red wiggler compost worms and will expand those
to other bins and compost as the weather warms. We are in the
wrong climate for soldier flies - but I think they're very
appealing from an efficiency point of view.
I'm also trying to grow some duckweed in a very small tub - just
to see if I can. I keep about 10,000 gallons of water in
Walmart backyard pools, uphill from the house, during fire
season and I'd like to try and grow some duckweed in them.
Unfortunately, the nights may be too cool for the duckweed to
grow rapidly enough to make sense.
I've mentioned that I buy oats by the ton from a local farmer,
the same guy I buy hay from. This year I'm also going to get a
ton of barley to see how the chickens like it sprouted. They'll
eat sprouted oats, but the oats seem to take longer to actually
grow a tail. Sprouted barley has been recommended to me as a
good feed nutritionally. We'll see. I can't grow grain here
because we are in the forested hills and I simply don't have the
right ground. In a pinch I can feed alfalfa hay to the chickens
and geese - but they won't lay well - or at all- on just that.
We're trying to expand the garden this year to add to the
chickens' diet. I'd like to grow a small mountain of spuds if
the growing season is any more benign than the furnace we had
last year. They have to be cooked, of course, before feeding to
a mono-gastric critter, but because we heat with wood that won't
be an additional expense.
I was very concerned about the fruit trees after the heat stress
of last year. However, the stress seems to have prompted the
trees - especially the plums and pears - to put out a massive
amount of blooms this spring. It has been cool and damp so far,
which makes it a bit challenging for the bees and other
pollinators. If we do get a good yield of fruit that will also
help with the animal feed. The geese, turkeys and chickens all
come running when some pulp from processing or culls come there
way. As I've also mentioned before, we have numerous seed
bearing trees planted that will someday yield quite a bit of
feed for the birds. Trees take a while and that will be far
enough into the future that I may be planted myself when it
happens.
Sheep and GoatsI could not do the necessary butchering this
winter because my hands (and occasionally back) were so bad. As
a result I have too many sheep and had to buy hay out of season.
Extremely expensive, because of the poor crop last year. The
goats have a wide ranging palate. If I had to I could keep them
alive all winter on fir tree limbs. They eat the needles and
strip the bark with gusto. Our sheep, Navajo Churro, are a
breed developed on rough forage in hard country. So, they do
fairly well when I supplement hay with limbs, brush etc. Of
course we have pasture available now - but I'm trying to let the
pasture recover after last years heat and drought -and I have
too many sheep, so I'm still feeding hay. I have this year's
hay reserved with my farmer - but I expect it to be very
expensive (even though a cool wet May should help with the crop)
and must get my number of critters down.
Dogs We have 5 dogs. I know. My only justification is that 2
of them actually work for a living. We have 3 livestock guardian
dogs, one of which is retired and has claimed a life of ease as
his pension. Then there are 2 small terriers that I have no
justification for. I just like 'em. To be fair, we have
trained one of the little ones to herd the geese and keep the
turkeys out of the garden. As you know, commercial dog food is
getting absurdly expensive. So, when I butcher sheep the dogs
obviously have fresh mutton and lamb to eat. It pains me
sometimes to realize the retail price of the meat I'm giving
them. But they do very well on it. I also get bones from a
local butcher which I render down (or just feed the larger
meatier bones straight). This is really good stuff and they do
well on it also. Being free, the price is right and worth the
work.
Which leads me to my score of the week - maybe the month.
I got a call Thursday from Lyle the butcher. He had a whole
beef in his cooler that had some bone sour. He had to dispose
of the entire carcass. It was on his trailer ready for a trip
to the dump. Did I want it? So, a half hour later I had an
entire 800lb steer on a tarp in front of the garage. One side
was whole. He'd already cut the other side into the large
chunks necessary to process and package. That half was in 3
large trash bags. It was 60 degrees and the flies were out so I
had to move fast. At my age that was no small task. The bone
sour had started in the forequarter which is where it usually
starts. About 80% of the meat was still good but Lyle has
ethics. I owe him a jug of whiskey.
I filled a freezer with beef chunks jammed in as tight as I
could. I also have an old fridge I use just for meat. I took
out all the shelves and bins and it is stacked with milk crates
jammed with meat. Also the freezer in the fridge is packed.
They dogs ate rib eyes that night - complete with the rib.
Because of the pace I had to generate with knives and saw I got
a lot on me. The mess and aroma that I wore did not exactly
appeal to Mrs Digwe. But the dogs loved me. My hands are
killing me - but the CBD cannabis helps with that. I still have
much processing to do - but good quality commercial dogfood goes
for around $2 lb. Maybe a little less on sale. So, this works
well for me.
Now the question becomes where am I going to put the butchered
lambs and sheep. A good problem to have in these times.
As you all know, the cost of farmers' inputs is going to see a
dramatic, continued price rise in food - even if there is a good
crop in the country this year.
Now I need to go burn a brush pile and dig a greenhouse
foundation.
I see I have once again gone on too long.
"Writing is not something necessarily to be ashamed of, but do
it in private and wash your hands afterwards." - Robert
Heinlein
[/quote]
DAMN I wish I had the Diner Blog still up! This is 1st Class
Blog material. Kudos.
RE
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