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       Re: Food Errata
       By: Nearings fault Date: November 3, 2021, 5:08 pm
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       We talked to our local meat person and she is not expecting
       prices to rise much this year. They had a bumper hay crop and
       most of their grain is produced onsite or within an hour of the
       farm. We do pay a premium for it already though. The age of
       cheap meat might finally be coming to a close...
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: Phil Potts Date: November 3, 2021, 5:13 pm
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       No not coffee
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: RE Date: November 3, 2021, 5:58 pm
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       [quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=66.msg1508#msg1508
       date=1635977281]
       We talked to our local meat person and she is not expecting
       prices to rise much this year. They had a bumper hay crop and
       most of their grain is produced onsite or within an hour of the
       farm. We do pay a premium for it already though. The age of
       cheap meat might finally be coming to a close...
       [/quote]
       How much do you pay for ribeye? How much for T-Bone? How much
       for fillet? In US dollars.
       RE
       #Post#: 1513--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Food Errata
       By: Nearings fault Date: November 4, 2021, 5:37 am
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       I almost never get cuts so I'm not familiar with the prices.
       Ground beef at an economy grocery store here can be as cheap as
       $5 a pound so $4 us. You might get occasional specials but that
       is it. It's **** though ; fatty and tasteless. Our ground beef
       is going for $7 a pound so $5.60 us, a little cheaper in bulk.
       It's very lean delicious and local so I'll gladly pay that. Last
       time we bought a roast from her it was $10 a pound or 8 US not
       sure of the cut. They run their own Abattoir so that keeps cost
       under their  control. They have chicken and pork as well but not
       from their farm. We have not gone there yet too busy with the
       house. I think good meat has always been expensive it's just
       that rising energy costs are eating away a lot of the
       competitive advantages of big ag; corn is not cheap for
       feedlotting, petrochemicals are going through the roof, mega
       slaughter houses are prone to disease outbreaks, and supply
       chain disruptions, trucking is in short supply... the little
       local producers costs have not changed much. The little guys
       getting squeezed are those trying to do big ag without the
       volume for economy of scale. Higher end niche markets and
       putting out a better product are the only ways to succeed at
       small. If it was not always that way it seems to be clearer now.
       Cheers,. NF
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: RE Date: November 4, 2021, 7:19 am
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       [quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=66.msg1513#msg1513
       date=1636022237]
       I almost never get cuts so I'm not familiar with the prices.
       Ground beef at an economy grocery store here can be as cheap as
       $5 a pound so $4 us. You might get occasional specials but that
       is it. It's **** though ; fatty and tasteless. Our ground beef
       is going for $7 a pound so $5.60 us, a little cheaper in bulk.
       It's very lean delicious and local so I'll gladly pay that. Last
       time we bought a roast from her it was $10 a pound or 8 US not
       sure of the cut. They run their own Abattoir so that keeps cost
       under their  control. They have chicken and pork as well but not
       from their farm. We have not gone there yet too busy with the
       house. I think good meat has always been expensive it's just
       that rising energy costs are eating away a lot of the
       competitive advantages of big ag; corn is not cheap for
       feedlotting, petrochemicals are going through the roof, mega
       slaughter houses are prone to disease outbreaks, and supply
       chain disruptions, trucking is in short supply... the little
       local producers costs have not changed much. The little guys
       getting squeezed are those trying to do big ag without the
       volume for economy of scale. Higher end niche markets and
       putting out a better product are the only ways to succeed at
       small. If it was not always that way it seems to be clearer now.
       Cheers,. NF
       [/quote]
       I'm the opposite, I rarely buy ground beef, only the cuts and
       genersslly only the premium ones.  Also, I don't kow how meat is
       graded there.  Here the grades are Select, Choice and Prime.  I
       only buy Choice or Prime (if I catch a sale). I do though always
       check the prices on ground beef also.  Current prices are
       slightly higher than yours, probably mainly due to the shipping
       costs to AK.
       We have local organic grass fed beef available, that has usually
       been about $2/lb more than the commercial beef.  You can also
       join a farm cooperative and get weekly or monthly deliveries,
       but I don't eat enough to make that worthwhile.
       Because the prices have gone so high, Prime is now more
       available and not much more than Choice.  A couple of years ago,
       a Choice Fillet might have gone $13/lb and Prime $20/lb.  Now,
       Choice goes $24 and Prime $30.  So if I am going to cough up
       that much for my one steak every couple of weeks, I spring for
       the Prime.  1 lb makes me about 3 dinners and 3 lunch
       sandwiches, so about $5/meal.  Cheaper than a Whopper and way
       higher quality.  That lasts 2-3 weeks.
       The rest of the animal protein in my diet is Chicken, Fish or
       Smoked Turkey.  Chicken I no longer even bother cooking myself,
       I either buy Fried Chicken Fingers or a Rotisserie Chicken at
       the Food Superstore.  Mostly with fish I eat smoked salmon which
       is expensive, but I balance that out with frozen fish fillets
       which are cheap.
       In total my daily per person food budget for myself is still
       under the $5 "SNAP Card Gourmet" budget from my videos, although
       that is partially due to my tiny appetite.  A normal, active
       person probaly would need to double that now.  What is your
       weekly food budget now for your family of 5?
       RE
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: Nearings fault Date: November 4, 2021, 7:29 am
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       Our weekly food budget is roughly between $175 and $200 Canadian
       so what... $140 and $180 us for a family of 4. We eat really
       well though. I could pair it down but I prefer to spend there
       then going out or on useless stuff. We don't eat out much. There
       has been no income for a year except some kid money as we build
       the house so we are careful.
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: RE Date: November 4, 2021, 7:42 am
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       [quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=66.msg1515#msg1515
       date=1636028985]
       Our weekly food budget is roughly between $175 and $200 Canadian
       so what... $140 and $180 us for a family of 4. We eat really
       well though. I could pair it down but I prefer to spend there
       then going out or on useless stuff. We don't eat out much. There
       has been no income for a year except some kid money as we build
       the house so we are careful.
       [/quote]
       So a little over $20/person/day.    Yah, you should be able to
       eat quite well on that ! :)
       I have found going out to eat nowadays to be totally
       unenjoyable.  The restaurants here in the Valley totally suck,
       even the better ones.  Fast Food is garbage and overpriced.
       There is no "atmosphere".  I usually take home at least half the
       meal and eat at home as leftovers anyhow.  So another of my
       great enthusiams in life has faded into the past. :(
       So it goes.
       RE
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: Nearings fault Date: November 4, 2021, 11:40 am
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       About 7 dollars per person per day I think.
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       Re: Food Errata
       By: RE Date: November 4, 2021, 2:08 pm
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       [quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=66.msg1518#msg1518
       date=1636044003]
       About 7 dollars per person per day I think.
       [/quote]
       Oops.  Forgot to divide by 4.  ::)
       RE
       #Post#: 1521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Food Errata
       By: Phil Potts Date: November 4, 2021, 3:45 pm
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       [quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=66.msg1518#msg1518
       date=1636044003]
       About 7 dollars per person per day I think.
       [/quote]
       That seems impossibly frugal. Do you grow your own fruit and
       veg?
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