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       Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 10, 2021, 4:10 am
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       RE said: "if your great grandmother is Jewish you are Jewish". I
       think I just discovered my grandmother is Jewish. It would
       explain a lot.
       I've been trying to find a record of my great grandfather being
       the world heavyweight wrestling champ of England. No luck, it
       doesn't seem any regular record was kept. I'm figuring it was
       sometime in the 1890-1915 "golden age", when 'wrasslin' became
       very popular and abruptly ended with WW1.  Figuring that people
       usually got married at about age 20 in the era and my
       grandmother was born in 1905, he was probably born around 1880.
       His parents probably around 1850-1855. The wrestlers name was
       Edward Cameron. I always thought I sweat so much at anything
       above 20c because of Scottish blood, cold adapted. Cameron is
       scot. The locality he is from is only about 20 miles at most
       from Scotland.
       Turns out his real name was Siebler. Physically, I got some dark
       pigment from my father, but physically and facially, I'm all my
       mother. I'm about twice the size of my father. Though he himself
       is all his mother, wheras my uncles and aunty are all much more
       my paternal grandfather. They are all very successful functional
       alcoholics even now, wheras he can't drink much as an aside from
       height, colour, face and personality where my father is the only
       one all his mother. This can also go the other way, as I have a
       cousin who is quite dark, wheras his father my uncle is very
       light and his mother is semi chinese, Nepali. He is  fairly
       small also, so overall looks a lot more like my father's son
       than me.
       I've looked at a clipping from 1934 re a write-up for a relative
       who was head of agriculture for Victoria for about 25 yrs, after
       he died at age 67, meaning he was born in around 1867. It seems
       his father was the same farm owner my great grandfather had. The
       ag minister  came to Oz in 1889 from the write up. I believe my
       grandmother was born in the UK in the same locality, so if her
       father is a brother of the agricultural minister, came here at
       least 16 yrs later.
       I don't really know if owning a farm made someone relatively
       wealthy in the UK in the mid 1800s. I'm thinking probably more
       or less middle class to own any land at all, so this Siebler
       great great grandfather of mine might not have been so well off
       and the brother of my ggf I'm assuming, just got ahead through
       scholarships and then also working through college once he got
       here, at a guess from the write up.
       All this because I couldn't find what I was looking for re
       wrestling online, although I did learn a lot about the history
       of the sport. I pulled out a very old metal biscuit tin
       belonging to my grandmother, full of old letters and fotos and
       news clippings I had never really looked at before.
       So all in all, if my great great  grandfathers wife who I have
       no name or maiden name for, was also Jewish, my grandmother is
       fully Jewish. If she was not and was local to that area near
       Scotland, I have only 1 jewish great grandparent, though it's
       not the great grandmother.. so I don't think I am.
       To be or not to be? No Vax passport right now is the new striped
       pyjamas and yellow star anyway ..
       #Post#: 898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: RE Date: September 10, 2021, 3:05 pm
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       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg897#msg897
       date=1631265010]
       To be or not to be? No Vax passport right now is the new striped
       pyjamas and yellow star anyway ..
       [/quote]
       Actually, NOT having  the Passport is the Yellow Star.  That is
       what gets you discriminated against.  Uncle Joe here just issued
       an Edict  that all Federal workers must be Vaxxed.  Soon cops
       will do random roadblocks to see your Vax Card for permission to
       drive.  Show me your papers!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhIPvEanMg
       Nothing like a good epidemic to enable the Fascist State.
       In the 5 year out scenario, if we do have an even mildly
       Exponential Function going here, I would not be surprised to see
       un-Vaxxed people sent to Concentration Camps along with anyone
       testing Covid +.  There they will be fed Canned Corned Beef Hash
       and SPAM until they die, like in Prisons and Assisted Care
       Gulags.  The diet there to be eventually be supplemented with
       Soylent Green.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZvLBa5GYY
       RE
       #Post#: 899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 10, 2021, 4:06 pm
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       [quote author=RE link=topic=61.msg898#msg898 date=1631304318]
       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg897#msg897
       date=1631265010]
       To be or not to be? No Vax passport right now is the new striped
       pyjamas and yellow star anyway ..
       [/quote]
       Actually, NOT having  the Passport is the Yellow Star.  That is
       what gets you discriminated against.  Uncle Joe here just issued
       an Edict  that all Federal workers must be Vaxxed.  Soon cops
       will do random roadblocks to see your Vax Card for permission to
       drive.  Show me your papers!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhIPvEanMg
       Nothing like a good epidemic to enable the Fascist State.
       In the 5 year out scenario, if we do have an even mildly
       Exponential Function going here, I would not be surprised to see
       un-Vaxxed people sent to Concentration Camps along with anyone
       testing Covid +.  There they will be fed Canned Corned Beef Hash
       and SPAM until they die, like in Prisons and Assisted Care
       Gulags.  The diet there to be eventually be supplemented with
       Soylent Green.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZvLBa5GYY
       That may seem harsh, but US is far behind because of 1a and 2a.
       We see it as somewhere to escape to. Canada current school
       opening, teachers must be vaxed but wear eye protection around
       unvaxed kids. Unless they are showering sparks, there's no
       practical purpose to that  other than othering them.
       Our own lockdown measures are strictest in world, but you can
       argue they have a purpose. Not only people being stopped on
       street or driving all the time. Any online mention of protest is
       incitement and punished. Alcohol delivery is checked by police.
       6 beers or 1 bottle of wine or 300 ml of spirit allowed. Of
       course that means someone pays 88$ for 4 seperate 6 packs over 4
       days, plus 4x delivery fee, instead of just 40$ for a carton
       (case) and 1x delivery fee.
       OTOH you can't still argue there is any purpose to the forcing
       of vax, other than eleminating the control group in the
       experiment. Well, not publicly anyway.
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       #Post#: 901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: RE Date: September 10, 2021, 4:41 pm
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       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg899#msg899
       date=1631307979]
       Our own lockdown measures are strictest in world, but you can
       argue they have a purpose. Not only people being stopped on
       street or driving all the time. Any online mention of protest is
       incitement and punished. Alcohol delivery is checked by police.
       6 beers or 1 bottle of wine or 300 ml of spirit allowed. Of
       course that means someone pays 88$ for 4 seperate 6 packs over 4
       days, plus 4x delivery fee, instead of just 40$ for a carton
       (case) and 1x delivery fee.
       OTOH you can't still argue there is any purpose to the forcing
       of vax, other than eleminating the control group in the
       experiment. Well, not publicly anyway.
       [/quote]
       Making BEER difficult or outrageously expensive is a recipe for
       a REVOLUTION in Oz.  lol.
       If the measures are effective, it might be worth it but I
       suspect they will not be.  Variants are cropping up too rapidly
       globally.
       It will take another couple of years to see how that goes.
       I expect to survive this.  I am highly resistant to viral
       infection, never had the flu for instance. Besides, I AM Vaxxed.
       Something else will kill me.  Probably boredom.
       RE
       #Post#: 902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 10, 2021, 10:06 pm
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       [quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=61.msg900#msg900
       date=1631308374]
       The entire Covid have/havenots routine is just a traveling
       shitshow, accentuating the entire us versus them routine we see
       within American politics nowadays.
       [/quote]
       Us v them is real enough when senate, Congress, fed res and
       pharma execs are exempt, but you and I are not. It's screwed
       either way if it turns out to be poisoning vs poverty. That
       should be clear by the end of 2023.
       #Post#: 904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 10, 2021, 10:45 pm
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       [quote author=RE link=topic=61.msg901#msg901 date=1631310106]
       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg899#msg899
       date=1631307979]
       Our own lockdown measures are strictest in world, but you can
       argue they have a purpose. Not only people being stopped on
       street or driving all the time. Any online mention of protest is
       incitement and punished. Alcohol delivery is checked by police.
       6 beers or 1 bottle of wine or 300 ml of spirit allowed. Of
       course that means someone pays 88$ for 4 seperate 6 packs over 4
       days, plus 4x delivery fee, instead of just 40$ for a carton
       (case) and 1x delivery fee.
       OTOH you can't still argue there is any purpose to the forcing
       of vax, other than eleminating the control group in the
       experiment. Well, not publicly anyway.
       [/quote]
       Making BEER difficult or outrageously expensive is a recipe for
       a REVOLUTION in Oz.  lol.
       If the measures are effective, it might be worth it but I
       suspect they will not be.  Variants are cropping up too rapidly
       globally.
       It will take another couple of years to see how that goes.
       I expect to survive this.  I am highly resistant to viral
       infection, never had the flu for instance. Besides, I AM Vaxxed.
       Something else will kill me.  Probably boredom.
       RE
       [/quote]
       I don't see surviving it as a huge issue if the average age of
       death is roughly equal to average life expectancy anyway. Not
       fully recovering has always been the real concern for me.
       Exponential function definitely applies to QE infinity of the
       last couple years though.
       PP note: It should be "digit span", not "digital span" (how many
       numbers can you remember forwards and backwards). Don't laugh,
       note how early china had this done and they're pretty well ready
       to put USB ports on their heads.
  HTML https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022395620308542
       #Post#: 921--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 11, 2021, 10:29 pm
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       Senators, congressmen, their bosses in the Federal reserve,
       fauci and other pharma billionaires are them not us. They are
       the exempt, I would not add the bureaucracy and branding teams.
       You can break it down to people who charter planes vs those
       required to mask, isolate and test, if they even get approval to
       go anywhere. For all those facing sacking, its a little
       different to praying for the rapture right now.
       #Post#: 925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 12, 2021, 3:31 pm
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       [quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=61.msg922#msg922
       date=1631452360]
       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg921#msg921
       date=1631417397]
       Senators, congressmen, their bosses in the Federal reserve,
       fauci and other pharma billionaires are them not us.
       [/quote]
       I'd probably include heads of state, bosses of large
       corporations, etc etc. The usual list of bad actors the "us"
       like to assign intent to.
       [quote author=Phil Potts]
       They are the exempt, I would not add the bureaucracy and
       branding teams.
       [/quote]
       I'd include the branding teams, as they are the ones weaving the
       entire mess together and marketing it. Party bosses and
       operators, like the folk who made sure it was Hillary that ran
       against the Trumpster rather than Bernie. The bureaucracy can
       certainly be neutral, just cogs in the machine.
       [quote author=Phil Potts]
       You can break it down to people who charter planes vs those
       required to mask, isolate and test, if they even get approval to
       go anywhere. For all those facing sacking, its a little
       different to praying for the rapture right now.
       [/quote]
       Well, praying for the rapture can those who believe in doom from
       a religious basis, or a euphemism for those who believe in doom
       religiously, regardless of cause, timing, or being in tune with
       reality. Harold Camping representing the former, some of the
       SARS or the past century of peak oiler prognosticators being the
       latter.
       [/quote]
       It appears you meant 'branding' as in advertising, not as in
       cattle. It's not a matter of speculation, you can check what
       company has what policy and precisely who the exempt are
       pressuring.  You also need to widen your scope outside the US,
       actually consider it an outlier.
       You appear to acknowledge facing sacking and starving is not
       quite like believing in a Mayan calendar catastrophe. It's not a
       left wing right wing team issue either. These things are going
       forward under both left and right wing state govts and a right
       wing federal govt.
       #Post#: 938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Phil Potts Date: September 13, 2021, 12:04 pm
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       The sacking of Troy doesn't involve a mythical siege and giant
       wooden horse. It's Troyboy clearing out his desk, then being
       unable to pay for power for his freezer or even a place to plug
       it in. Troy also can't travel or enter any business or service
       following guidelines.
       I take it you think 'let them eat cake' is just an us and them
       branding slogan. Pelosi and other politicians, as well as their
       bosses having exemption from being experimented on, marks a
       genuine difference between us.
       The empirical evidence might be in the animal studies. I don't
       know if any were done on juveniles though. Effects on still
       developing ovaries and testicles might lower fertility
       significantly.
       Here's the empirical evidence from England for the choices Troy
       and other lepers have:
       
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       Re: Shocking discovery
       By: Nearings fault Date: September 13, 2021, 2:25 pm
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       [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=61.msg938#msg938
       date=1631552655]
       The sacking of Troy doesn't involve a mythical siege and giant
       wooden horse. It's Troyboy clearing out his desk, then being
       unable to pay for power for his freezer or even a place to plug
       it in. Troy also can't travel or enter any business or service
       following guidelines.
       I take it you think 'let them eat cake' is just an us and them
       branding slogan. Pelosi and other politicians, as well as their
       bosses having exemption from being experimented on, marks a
       genuine difference between us.
       The empirical evidence might be in the animal studies. I don't
       know if any were done on juveniles though. Effects on still
       developing ovaries and testicles might lower fertility
       significantly.
       Here's the empirical evidence from England for the choices Troy
       and other lepers have:
       [/quote]
       Is that table per 100000 of population? That would be the
       standard way of showing it. If that is the case then those
       numbers don't show the real picture since over 75 percent of the
       UK pop is vaccinated therefore the sample size is from a much
       lower population.
       At this point I care about hopitalizations and icu cases.
       Ontario has a decent website showing it and the contrast stands
       out well between vacinated and non.
  HTML https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
       Personally I'm all for mandates and passports until they have
       good studies for kids. Once my kids can get vaccinated all the
       conspiracy anti vaxxers can hide in their caves for all I care.
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