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Re: Economy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: September 22, 2021, 12:00 am
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I see Dead Chinamen.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: Phil Potts Date: September 22, 2021, 4:39 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=60.msg1002#msg1002 date=1632255679]
WAAAYYY too many people, a polluted landscape and no
significant Energy reserves inside their own borders.
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They produce about the same amount of oil daily as Canada, Iran,
more than Norway or the UK. Plenty of natural gas as well, and
currently working their way along the path of shale formation
development better than anyone else except the US and Canada.
Don't know what their coal looks like.
Probably not as much as their population would really like, but
they certainly have a better chance of living poor and being
happy with it than North Americans.
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The countries with the natural resources are mostly dependent on
china buying them. Oz has by far the biggest reserves of iron
ore in the world, with by far the highest content. It all goes
to china, shipped as dirt, not even made into steel first. We
are all typing on devices made in china to discuss this and it
seems most countries are in the same relationship, having a
trade deficit with china.
Going forward there is the question of whether coal will
continue to be shipped to china and India from Oz despite
stopping burning it here
and across the western world.
China has most of the rare earth minerals and look like getting
access to Afghanistan now, with 3 trillion$ worth of it to build
millions of EVs. The deals will not depend on provision of
gender neutral bathrooms. It won't be contingent on annual paid
domestic violence and maternity leave, to a 50% quota of women
executives.
Chinas central govt has earlier this month taken measures to
ban all "girly men" from tv. They consider there is a CIA plot
to feninize their men through "little fresh meat", whatever that
means. I think they are serious about promoting Confucian
ideals, with also trying to discourage "displays of flaunting
wealth". Seems they don't want their own music video and
reality tv following the typical rapper meme with gold chains,
exotic cars, yachts and pool parties at mansions, even if the
guys can grow beards. Look at the performance of the western
armed and trained 350,000 strong Afghan national army, against
the low tech Taliban. That's the difference between believing in
what you're fighting for and signing up for a paycheck.
I've only been to Guangdong, (Kantong) not even Beijing or
Shanghai, but could not help being as impressed as Marco Polo
about a thousand years ago. If they can't build anything without
stealing our intellectual property , we must have the blueprints
for a hell of a lot of things we didn't bother to build.
Enclosed sky bridges made of transparent material. Twisting and
tapered tall buildings, all lit up with ever changing colours or
images. Hovercraft ferries travelling at over 200 kmh.
As Digwe mentioned, the 'Century Of Humiliation' including the
Japanese occupation, would have a deep impact on their current
renaissance. Even before it began, Einstein travelling there in
the 1930s reflected on "how dreary it would be for people like
myself if they came to displace all other races", through being
"industrious".
Look for an instrumental cover of any song you care to, and most
likely you will find a child virtuoso or millenial Asian
pianist, drummer, violin player or guitarist. I'm not suggesting
they are naturally gifted at music, but have a culture now of
working very hard at mastery. When they put a heavy focus on
winning a lot of Olympic medals, we say they must be drug
cheats, when in fact the US has the most Olympic athletes tested
positive. They do seem to generally be naturally good at math,
except when it comes to the sense in gambling. That with the
unlimited greed in financial industry, meant another Lehman, now
Evergrande was always a possibility.
The ghost cities and bridges to nowhere are getting filled
according to nationalist Chinese if you ask. They point to some
examples that were circulated in our own media, then and now.
What % have been filled, I don't know. Carrying on building out
was always necessary to have their 10% annual GDP miracle and
all important displacement of the US as largest economy, even if
it got ahead of demand. They might also think of the empty
inland cities as a place to decamp to, in event of the coast
getting nuked.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: RE Date: September 22, 2021, 8:44 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=60.msg1009#msg1009
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Look for an instrumental cover of any song you care to, and most
likely you will find a child virtuoso or millenial Asian
pianist, drummer, violin player or guitarist. I'm not suggesting
they are naturally gifted at music, but have a culture now of
working very hard at mastery. When they put a heavy focus on
winning a lot of Olympic medals, we say they must be drug
cheats, when in fact the US has the most Olympic athletes tested
positive. They do seem to generally be naturally good at math,
except when it comes to the sense in gambling. That with the
unlimited greed in financial industry, meant another Lehman, now
Evergrande was always a possibility.
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Well, if you want a Eugenics debate in athletics, going by
population size the Chinese should have around Quadruple the
number of medals the FSoA does. More than that if they are
indeed better athletes or better trained or more motivated, etc.
Same sort of comparison went on in the old days with the old
Soviet Union and before that with Nazi Germany.
Similar issue with Energy. China has a larger land mass and so
more FFs than Norway, but the population of Vikings left there
is around 5.33M , the population of China 1.3 BILLION.so to be
anywhere NEAR equal, China needs 500X as much energy to equal
Norway. Norway is still in surplus, the Chinese need to import.
a LOT.
On Brainpower, the Chinese are generally pretty smart, but they
still don't have an Einstein, Heisenberg, Feynman, Newton or
Leibnitz to their credit. They also neglected to do anything
worthwhile with GUNPOWDER which they got to first. Had they
done a reasonable application of that discovery, nether the
Brits or the Japs would have been able to put them under the
thumb. As it played out, the Chinese have been f*ucked up the
ass by Industrial Civilization, continuing right to this day.
They came a day late and a Yuan short to all the major
inventions of the 19th & 20th century, and now in trying to
catch up have turned their plot of the earth into a sewer.
The Chinese are TOAST.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: September 22, 2021, 9:39 pm
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Richard Feynman's IQ Score Was 'Only' 125. He liked to joke
about it. Steven Hawking said people who concern themselves
with IQ are losers. With 1.3 billion China has a few bright
bulbs. But the cultural revolution was a frontal lobotomy.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: Phil Potts Date: September 23, 2021, 3:01 am
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Richard Feynman's IQ Score Was 'Only' 125. He liked to joke
about it. Steven Hawking said people who concern themselves
with IQ are losers. With 1.3 billion China has a few bright
bulbs. But the cultural revolution was a frontal lobotomy.
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Researchers talk about the "East Asian Exception" for Taiwan,
japan, SK, NK and china. This is because their roughly 10+
point average IQ advantage over ours is stable in spite of
malnutrition and nobody knows why. I'm not sure if they have had
free education in all those places for the duration of the
testing, which must be less than about a hundred years as the
Stanford Binet was only developed in WW1. I will bet they have..
To me free education is a huge factor in averages as well as a
culture of competition. Confucianism has been mobility based on
exams for thousands of years. If you don't have free education
or a culture of individualism as acceptable, average IQ is low.
White supremacists who are always talking about being replaced
by low IQ high melanin people display the dunning Kruger effect
that hawking is referring to. Tell them that theres a huge gulf
between rural and urban or college vs high school education.
Tell them Catholic whites such as Irish and Italian were 1SD
below average for as long as they were discriminated against. If
Catholics could close the gap in the 1980s, so can the people
who invented the Arabic numerals used to express the scores. If
you insist IQ is inherent, then farmers and factory workers are
not just as smart as accountants and engineers.
I don't know if China's pollution problem is getting worse or
improving, but they have been living with it for a while and
pump gigalitres of fresh water out of the great lakes and at
least one place here that I'm aware of. That's drinking water,
but if industry needs cleaner water than they have, they can
move, promising hundreds of thousands of jobs to some other
place like we did to them. They're a 5k years continuous
civilization that's had some dark age dynasties, but never a
collapse back to anarchy. If we are going to still have
technology, industry and globalisation in future, they're
definitely exerting the largest gravitational field.
To win more medals they should just poach Kenyan marathon
runners and Jamaican sprinters. This one will defect for free:
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Re: Economy Errata
By: RE Date: September 23, 2021, 10:31 am
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Far as people persistently discriminated against historically,
nobody beats the Jews for this, but they still output the top of
the heap in Science and math. Stuyvesant was PACKED with Jews
in my years. Eric Lander was of course Jewish. Einstein,
Jewish.
There is definitely a genetic component involved with IQ, but a
lot of it involves tradition. Jews have the tradition, so do
the Chinese. Not much of the tradition in sub-saharan Africa
or among the slaves brought over here either. Illiteracy
rampant among both groups. Hard to do well on an IQ test if you
are a poor reader, of course.
In athletics, it is similar, most is tradition. Oz is a tiny
population country, but consistently produces the top swimmers,
along with USA Swimming of course. The Chinese are utterly
dominant in the light racket sports of Table Tennis and
Badminton, but never produce top tennis players. Jamaicans are
indistinguishable from the rest of the Africans imported during
the slave era, but they have a tradition of Sprinting. The
Japanese have a tradition in Men's Gymnastics, but not Women's.
We are opposite, and only really acquired the tradition
recently, from the Romanians when the Karolyi's defected. And
so forth and so on.
My sense is that Tradition is far more important than Genetics,
thus explaining Feynman's brilliance with a *relatively* low IQ.
Finally, a stratospheric IQ is no guarantee of anything. I am
living proof of that. lol.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: RE Date: September 23, 2021, 10:57 am
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One more example, in a Brain sport, Chess.
Ruskies consistently produce the top Chess players in the world,
with a MUCH smaller population than China. Would anyone argue
that Ruskies have higher average IQ than Chines? So what is the
explanation? TRADITION!
There are exceptions here of course, Bobby Fischer being the
prime example there. But Ruskies have the TRADITION.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: September 24, 2021, 11:46 pm
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There is definitely a genetic component involved with IQ, but a
lot of it involves tradition. Jews have the tradition, so do
the Chinese. Not much of the tradition in sub-saharan Africa
or among the slaves brought over here either. Illiteracy
rampant among both groups. Hard to do well on an IQ test if you
are a poor reader, of course.
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Finally, a stratospheric IQ is no guarantee of anything. I am
living proof of that. lol.
RE
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I wonder if I am as smart as an Ashkenazi?
What do you think RE. You have met me. I know I descend from
pirates who had a license from the English King. But whom else?
What else is in the woodpile?
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Re: Economy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: September 24, 2021, 11:55 pm
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When American electrochemical engineer Libb Thims set out to
find the person with the highest IQ in history, he did so using
a methodology that predicts a person’s IQ based on how much they
accomplished every 10 years of their life. This came in handy
when attempting to rank people who themselves predated IQ tests.
Based on his own approach, Thims estimated that German
Renaissance man Johann Goethe was the person with the highest IQ
of all time, with a score ranging from 210 to 225. While
typically labeled as a philosopher, Goethe was also an
accomplished scientist and poet.
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Re: Economy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: September 25, 2021, 9:18 am
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The 2013 study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist
at the University of Huddersfield in England, said that while
Ashkenazi Jews have lived in Europe for many centuries, the
results of the study using DNA samples show that most European
Jews descend from local people who converted to Judaism, not
individuals who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000
years ago.
Which a smart guy could have figured out all on his own. So not
to worry (not that I was). You can't go hundreds of years with
the normal dose of family secrets without the history working
out any other way. I figure I got what R. Fineman joked about.
The 125. My bragging rights on the Graduate Record Exam
support that number. Any more than that is wishful thinking.
But try running this quote through this Steven Hawking torture
device.
[quote]People who concern themselves with IQ are losers.[/quote]
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It is interesting that everyone wants high a IQ number. A
number that says more about the genetic lottery than the soul of
any man. My actual accomplishments reflect a better character
the lower my IQ is measured to be. More bang for the buck sort
of thing. I think everybodies desire to have an IQ number far
beyond the actual mathematical probability of reality goes to
show our greatest fear is social inadequacy. We don''t want to
be on an inferior step of the social ladder. Who wants a 150 IQ
when the fantasy of 160 is so much better. But fewer than 1 in
2000 measure at 150.
(If I used rung instead of step in the ladder description above,
it would reflect a larger vocabulary. Large vocabulary is
associated with high IQ.) Should I change it?
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