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       Re: No Recession In 2022—But Watch Out In 2023
       By: Phil Potts Date: November 6, 2021, 3:27 am
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       [quote author=moniker link=topic=60.msg1529#msg1529
       date=1636164394]
       Federal Deficits don't matter because the money is owed to the
       Fed and the 2 dozen people who have most of the money. The Fed
       just printed up the money, and the others don't need it.
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       #Post#: 1541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Economy Errata
       By: K-Dog Date: November 6, 2021, 11:07 pm
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       I don't loath the message.  Exploitation and Oppression is the
       core issue and that has not changed.
       Yanis Varoufakis describes high tech internet companies as a new
       form of feudal lord in another vid.  His argument is convincing.
       Monopoly control of media, market, price, and choice all at
       once.  Just like a motherfucker with a sword.  That is how I put
       it.
       Yanis and Slavoj Žižek together.  A good catch.  They balance
       each other.
       #Post#: 1549--------------------------------------------------
       Millennials own nothing because the economy screwed us over for 
       25 years — but older generations still try and blame it 
       By: RE Date: November 7, 2021, 1:42 pm
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       Millennials own nothing because the economy screwed us over for
       25 years — but older generations still try and blame it on our
       work ethic
       Hard to own anything when the top 10% own it already and won't
       sell it for what you can afford to pay.
       At the fundamental level, Property Ownership is what is most
       wrong with the system.  This is what divides the Haves from the
       Have Nots, the Aristocrats and Royals from the Serfs and
       Commoners.
       All property was taken out of the Commons by theft backed up by
       superior Force.  The Crown of England simply declared all of
       North America to be theirs, then proceeded to wipe out anyone
       living there who would not declare allegiance to them.  We still
       have a Pledge of Allegiance recited by children here every day.
       My solution to this has been to own as little as possible.  My
       rule is try to own only what you can carry with you.  You don't
       "build wealth" this way, but is very liberating.  Finding ways
       to survive can be tricky though.
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       #Post#: 1557--------------------------------------------------
       Americans have never been in so much debt
       By: RE Date: November 9, 2021, 10:07 pm
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       Americans have never been in so much debt
  HTML https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/economy/fed-household-debt-inflation/index.html
       Well, now we know how the so-called "recovery" is being
       financed.  ::)
       Magically, Somehow despite not taking the plentiful shit jobs
       now open, Demand for more Goodies from China is strong!  So
       strong the whole supply chain is overwhelmed!  The NYT had the
       gall in an editorial to blame consumers for the supply chain
       havoc.  Those damn consumers just want to buy too much stuff!
       lol.
       From the POV of J6P Consumer, why this sudden debt-fueled buying
       frenzy.  One reason of course is has spent the last 2 years
       mostly unable to go out and shop till he drops.  Fewer trips to
       the restaurants, movies, vacations, concerts etc.  Now finally
       somewhat let off the leash (at least if Vaxxed), he goes on a
       spending frenzy.  Who cares if there is enough money in the
       bank?  For everything you ever wanted to buy but couldn't
       afford, there's VISA!
       Why do banks keep issuing the plastic out to people already deep
       in debt?  Because they have to do something with all the free
       money dished out by Da Fed the last 2 years also.  They get the
       money at 1% or less, loan it back out at 29%.  Are they worried
       the consumers won't pay it back?  No because Da Goobermint will
       bail them out when they go tits up.
       For J6P, he's not worried about paying the CC debt off either.
       It's one last Binge before the hammer falls.  Party like it's
       2021!
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       #Post#: 1566--------------------------------------------------
       China's Evergrande Group officially defaults 
       By: RE Date: November 10, 2021, 8:39 pm
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       China's Evergrande Group officially defaults
  HTML https://www.dailysabah.com/business/economy/chinas-evergrande-group-officially-defaults
       This should move things along a bit on the Chinese "long game"
       Economic Mosh Pit.
       Downgrades across the board on the Chinese RE Bond Market.
       Should be an interesting Chinese New Year.  :o
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       #Post#: 1577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Economy Errata
       By: Eddie Date: November 11, 2021, 10:48 am
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       Evergrande made 3 bond payments yesterday.
       The yield curve is trying to invert. We might get some kind of
       correction, but I’m not seeing a big crash.....unless something
       changes fast.
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       Cargo with nowhere to go: 60 Minutes investigates the supply cha
       in crisis
       By: RE Date: November 11, 2021, 1:48 pm
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       I haven't watched this yet.
       Cargo with nowhere to go: 60 Minutes investigates the supply
       chain crisis
  HTML https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-supply-chain-crisis-2021-11-11/
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       #Post#: 1586--------------------------------------------------
       Evergrand Dodges another Bullet
       By: RE Date: November 11, 2021, 4:19 pm
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=60.msg1577#msg1577
       date=1636649283]
       Evergrande made 3 bond payments yesterday.
       The yield curve is trying to invert. We might get some kind of
       correction, but I’m not seeing a big crash.....unless something
       changes fast.
       [/quote]
       Our opinions differ here.  I don't think something needs to
       change all that much or all that fast...the Chinese bond market
       in RE is crumbling all across the board.  Liquidity has dried
       up.  The Chinese Goobermint will have to step in to stop the
       bleeding, but so far have not done so.  Evergrand's founder has
       been propping that one up with his own stash of cash, likely
       under compulsion by the CCP.  That can't last too long, he'll be
       pauperized in a matter of months.
       I don't think the Chinese can extend and pretend this one out
       too long.  They got too many other problems.  Like keeping the
       lights on.
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       China Evergrande again averts default but debt woes mount
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       #Post#: 1624--------------------------------------------------
       Is Europe headed toward another debt crisis?
       By: RE Date: November 13, 2021, 10:28 am
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       What?  The ECB won't keep handing out Free Money forever?
       Is Europe headed toward another debt crisis?
  HTML https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/580976-is-europe-headed-toward-another-debt-crisis?rl=1
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       #Post#: 1642--------------------------------------------------
       Evergrande: BK or Not BK?  That is the question?
       By: RE Date: November 14, 2021, 7:29 am
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       Over the last week we have had conflicting reports that EG
       had/had not missed it's bond payments.  Why the confusion?
       Because EG hasn't admitted it, nor has it declared BK.  Now
       however at least one creditor who has not been paid will file,
       which SHOULD trigger BK proceedings.  I say should because WTF
       knows with the FUBAR legal system these days?
       I think EVERYBODY KNOWS EG is BK, but the usual E & P game is
       being played.  Everybody also figures the Chinese goobermint
       will step in at the last possible minute to stop the bleeding.
       The CCP is loathe to do this, because EG is just the tip of the
       iceberg in their property market, currently valued at $55
       TRILLION!  Even just a 10% correction there is more than the
       FSoA infrastructure bill Uncle Joe is trying to sell!
       The Little Chinese Boy has his finger in the EG hole in the
       dyke, but it's leaking.  When the water comes rushing through,
       watch out.
       Global financial crash: China Evergrande heading for 'bankruptcy
       in days'
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