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Re: What Happens If Europe Runs Out Of Gas
By: Phil Potts Date: December 3, 2021, 7:55 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1937#msg1937
date=1638572399]
least back then the amateurs weren't in the mix saying silly
****, and the internet wasn't there to create them by the
legions.
[/quote]
In which case, feel free to ask for assistance on working out
whether you are looking at us through a jar with holes in the
lid, or at a mirror in this study.
Jim Jones was instructed by Reverend Divine on keeping control
of Jonestown by identifying a threat and terrorising the flock
with fear of it. Nobody was explicitly instructed to fear Saddam
and his WMD or Bin Laden, but you are extremely naive to not
recognise fear being stoked for consent and control. You had an
excited Bill Gates on TV talking about millions and millions
dying, big pictures of virus cells plastered everywhere and
newsreaders incessantly updating the insignificant numbers of
dead in grave tones. Clearly that scared enough people to panic
buy toilet paper until another worse than useless but comforting
ritual was devised that the suggestible or trusting rushed into
to feel safe.
You played Rumpelstiltskin on who a peakoil.com moderator was,
their age and username who suicided. You said it was due to
believing in perma doom. Now the only person you mention
suicuding is Ruppert.
Your job is to discredit Ruppert and any other threats to the
govt narrative such as even on this miniscule and
inconsequential forum. Clearly he was far more than a
pamphleteer and that isn't any kind of black mark against him
anyway.
No I don't want to discuss Ruppert. A scientist would stay on
track and not throw out knowing the approx age and username of
an admin at peak oil.com as an appeal to authority and saying
lack of cornucopian beliefs made him suicide. I take it after
guessing in an instant that you meant Ruppert if he was a
moderator of that site, you now abandon both that Ruppert was a
moderator at peakoil.com and the suggestion that he killed
himself because he believed the world would end.
If you forgot your conversation with LD re Ruppert after he had
killed himself and that you were asked what Ruppert was wrong
about. According to wiki it is in his critically acclaimed book;
his 2004 book Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American
Empire at the End of the Age of Oil.[2] that he predicted the
financial crisis before it happened. LD would have had or read
this book. A scientist should simply get straight to the point
of exactly what Ruppert was wrong about. "Always predicting
doom" is meaningless.
As for 'ask RE', he said 'it must have been a stealth visit' (to
SC). I wonder if this is the nature of all the attendances and
invitations to those you seek to discredit without engaging the
substance of what they say.
Fair enough if you meant a website RE simply joined rather than
owned, as per the general meaning. Apparently there isn't
anything I forgot after all, such as a David Hughes or exchange
you had with him.
It's possible you once provided some actual reason for
something, long ago. On DD you said you 'even provided
footnotes'. Sorry but I leave this as an open question as to
having happened, I can not be certain it did, as you are never
anything but as vague as possible. Wild horses couldn't drag
details out of you. Of course if there was some irrefutable
evidence you produce, using your own established ground rules,
savinar etc can just divert to your penchant for armed seiges
and hiding out in storage units that make rupperts escapades
look tame.
There is nothing to research any side of, except whether he was
a pamphleteer, an admin of peakoil.com and suicided because of
believing the world was ending. Alhough it's not documented
anywhere I can see, you get the benefit of the doubt on
pamphleteering as you have access to his surveillance.
We covered Earth Day and Carter for the 70s. As I've pointed
out, he was talking about still burning oil in the 21st century,
he never said oil was going to run out in a few years. You also
can't rule out great environmental catastrophe without the
environmental protection that followed from Earth Day. My mother
was the proof reader/editor of this book. The 1970s first
edition cover pictured a forlorn penguin covered in crude oil.
Around the same time, Australia stepped up it's international
prominence in opposition to whaling, after her Greenpeace
involvement and letter to the PM was read out in parliament.
HTML https://books.google.com.au/books/about/Man_made_Disasters.html?id=7Hq6AAAAIAAJ
#Post#: 1944--------------------------------------------------
UK Grim Prospects Over Surging Energy Bills Just Got Worse
By: RE Date: December 4, 2021, 3:24 am
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Obviously Da Goobermint has to raise the price cap, increase
subsidies, nationalize energy, let people freeze or some
combination thereof. Sadly, none of these solutions gets any
more gas shipped to the UK.
HTML https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/UK-Grim-Prospects-Over-Surging-Energy-Bills-Just-Got-Worse.html
UK Grim Prospects Over Surging Energy Bills Just Got Worse
RE
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Re: What Happens If Europe Runs Out Of Gas
By: Phil Potts Date: December 4, 2021, 3:05 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1946#msg1946
date=1638646259]
[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=49.msg1939#msg1939
date=1638582926]
You played Rumpelstiltskin on who a peakoil.com moderator was,
their age and username who suicided. You said it was due to
believing in perma doom. Now the only person you mention
suicuding is Ruppert.
[/quote]
I didn't say "only" anything. I've named two I am familiar with.
Do you believe that they might be the only two? Seems unlikely
to me.
[quote author=Phil Potts]
Your job is to discredit Ruppert and any other threats to the
govt narrative such as even on this miniscule and
inconsequential forum. Clearly he was far more than a
pamphleteer and that isn't any kind of black mark against him
anyway. [/quote]
At peakoil.com, during the weekly chats that were available to
those interested, using audio through computers, the vote went
for me being CIA. They couldn't quite decide on WHY the CIA had
an interest in a minor group of geologically ignorant forum
residents, but that was the call.
[quote author=Phil Potts] I take it after guessing in an instant
that you meant Ruppert if he was a moderator of that site, you
now abandon both that Ruppert was a moderator at peakoil.com and
the suggestion that he killed himself because he believed the
world would end.
[/quote]
Ruppert was never a moderator at peakoil.com. And as to the
exact why he suicided himself...well....he didn't write that in
the note he left.
[quote author="Phil Potts]
A scientist should simply get straight to the point of exactly
what Ruppert was wrong about. "Always predicting doom" is
meaningless.
[/quote]
Scientists do what scientists do, and there is no more
requirement they "should simply get straight to the point" any
more than it is required I have a PhD. "Always predicting doom"
isn't meaningless. Specifically, I mentioned before that folks
like Simmons and Deffeyyes would throw in little caveats,
Simmons on the final page or two of his most famous book, as
preemptive defense against being considered only doomers. In
everything I've read from Ruppert or FTW, that wasn't the case.
So, if I wish to characterize Ruppert as "always predicting
doom", I'll stand by it until you correct me by finding him
astride a rainbow colored unicorn blowing a conch shell to
summon all like minded fantasyland characters to his side.
[quote author=Phil Potts]
It's possible you once provided some actual reason for
something, long ago. On DD you said you 'even provided
footnotes'. Sorry but I leave this as an open question as to
having happened, I can not be certain it did, as you are never
anything but as vague as possible.
[/quote]
Well, what with my identify having been discovered by folks
watching my every movement, tracing my travels between cities
via IP numbers, scanning conferences and matching attendance
lists to find out who I was, can you blame me? ;)
[/quote]
"It was Ruppert who suicided" is what you last said. Initially
you said you knew who was a moderator at peakoil.com who
suicided and what their age and username was, that was your
question.
It doesn't matter which of the myriad 3 letter agencies pays
from the State Dept pot.
You didnt say anything in this discussion about Simmons and
Dufeyyes. In any case, you need to plainly state what exactly
they or Ruppert have said that you believe is wrong and why.
What you are doing here is polar opposite to the Scientific
Method. I'm not an academic, but I've done a postgraduate
research thesis and been involved in a couple of studies before
that, then read god only knows how many journal articles and
books about the brain since. Im ready to make the call that
scientists set out to prove or disprove hypotheses and give the
reasons for any possibilities that are not definitely known.
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Re: What Happens If Europe Runs Out Of Gas
By: Phil Potts Date: December 5, 2021, 2:03 am
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1948#msg1948
date=1638667657]
Are you familiar with how a sample size must be sufficient to
calculate a given level of confidence in a conclusion? If so,
then you also understand how a sample size of 1 is wholly
insufficient to draw a conclusion. No research experience
necessary really, just a familiarity with some basic statistics.
[/quote]
Alexa, what's a confidence interval? Manova isn't just something
sailors shout out. It's statistics software to turn 💩
into chocolate, but thats getting into questions of research
funding paying for the effect they want.
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Re: Energy Errata
By: Cam Date: December 5, 2021, 9:39 am
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HTML https://interestingengineering.com/new-co2-battery-can-halve-the-cost-of-solar-energy-storage
Here is an interesting way to store solar energy. You need a lot
of CO2, but this looks pretty neat to me.
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Re: Energy Errata
By: Nearings fault Date: December 5, 2021, 10:08 am
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[quote author=Cam link=topic=49.msg1959#msg1959 date=1638718752]
HTML https://interestingengineering.com/new-co2-battery-can-halve-the-cost-of-solar-energy-storage
Here is an interesting way to store solar energy. You need a lot
of CO2, but this looks pretty neat to me.
[/quote] you are going to see dozens of solutions over the next
decade. I think all of them will be tried. It is similar to the
dot com wild west era. Lots of funding available to try to
create the tech to make the lofty climate change promises work.
I believe the technical barriers and complexity of the CO2
storage listed will prove too big. Pumped water storage uses a
much more dense medium and compressed air in mines uses less
land. Both are comparable and less complex. Time will tell. It
will be an "exciting" decade.
Cheers
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Re: What Happens If Europe Runs Out Of Gas
By: Phil Potts Date: December 5, 2021, 1:59 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1958#msg1958
date=1638716821]
[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=49.msg1956#msg1956
date=1638691414]
[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1948#msg1948
date=1638667657]
Are you familiar with how a sample size must be sufficient to
calculate a given level of confidence in a conclusion? If so,
then you also understand how a sample size of 1 is wholly
insufficient to draw a conclusion. No research experience
necessary really, just a familiarity with some basic statistics.
[/quote]
Alexa, what's a confidence interval? Manova isn't just something
sailors shout out. It's statistics software to turn 💩
into chocolate, but thats getting into questions of research
funding paying for the effect they want.
[/quote]
An entertaining answer to some question or another, but not the
one I asked. If you are unfamiliar with how sample size and
calculated confidence levels work, you could just say so.
[/quote]
I gave you the why and one of many ways around that, rather than
the obvious yes. What was the relevance of the question though,
as you didn't say what N =1 is. It isn't the number of times
you say peak oilers are wrong without any reason except you're a
scientist. It isn't the number of scientific journals articles
setting the study out in full I've read,. Its only the number of
times some1 talked about being paid for posting.
This conversation is pointless and spamming over useful and
interesting posts. Out.
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Re: Energy Errata
By: K-Dog Date: December 5, 2021, 8:18 pm
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HTML https://interestingengineering.com/new-co2-battery-can-halve-the-cost-of-solar-energy-storage
I don't know thermodynamic well but the efficiency of compressed
gas power storage is described by the Carnot cycle. This
article is propaganda for a lame carbon capture scheme and I
believe the process can't come close to battery storage in
efficiency.
Proof:
that draws CO2 from the dome and compresses it, generating heat
that is sent to a thermal energy storage device.
This heat is lost, The idea that it is being stored is
ridiculous. The best situation would be if the CO2 remains hot
and is stored in insulated pressure vessels. If this article
were based on real science and not wishful thinking the
efficiency of the process would be described. It is not.
I can't believe the efficiency is good enough to be useful.
HTML https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/Images/carnot.gif
Any heat going to 'thermal storage' increases W, the work.
Directly reducing efficiency.
A heat exchanger could improve efficiency but the salient point
is improve. Shit still stinks.
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Re: What Happens If Europe Runs Out Of Gas
By: K-Dog Date: December 5, 2021, 8:28 pm
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=49.msg1962#msg1962
date=1638753656]
[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=49.msg1961#msg1961
date=1638734369]
It isn't the number of times you say peak oilers are wrong
without any reason except you're a scientist. It isn't the
number of scientific journals articles setting the study out in
full I've read,. Its only the number of times some1 talked about
being paid for posting.
[/quote]
Well...I guess....it is good we've established that no one here
gets paid for posting then.
[/quote]
But if this forum were to take off in such a dramatic fashion
that it somehow it made money then you as a contributing member
would get a monthly check. Why?
Because both RE and I are commies.
We probably could get more members, but this place is word of
mouth and only linked to my own website which is word of mouth.
If we had 100K members producing 3000 posts a day spread over a
dozen active members being an admin could be a full time job.
Wages to admin. A real wage with taxes Social Security and all
that stuff. We are talking serious time. Things would be set
up legal and the place would be member owned.
Dues at fifty cents a month gives $4166.67
Two admins at $1000 a month leaves $2166.67
Distributed by an algorithm that scores post quality and number.
To each member according to their contribution. Admin wage
determined by a vote of all members. Admin elections after
Lenin and Trotsky are gone.
Excuse my mental ****asterbation. At a million members an admin
job could have benefits and would pay a living wage. After that
membership would not elect for more admin pay.
****asterbation - Can you believe the forum software censored
that ??? I had to come back and fix it so you know what I
meant. At 100K members we would be running on our own virtual
server and censorship would not be an issue.
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Re: Energy Errata
By: RE Date: December 5, 2021, 8:57 pm
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=49.msg1963#msg1963
date=1638757096]
This heat is lost, The idea that it is being stored is
ridiculous. The best situation would be if the CO2 remains hot
and is stored in insulated pressure vessels. If this article
were based on real science and not wishful thinking the
efficiency of the process would be described. It is not.
[/quote]
To pressurize it, you would need to run pumps which would use
more energy then what you get out. Compressing the gas would
heat it still further though.
CO2 is the end result of Oxidation of carbon. The only way to
store energy with carbon is to Reduce it. That is what plants
do with Photosynthesis. They get the energy to do it directly
form the Sun. Free Oxygen is the result of reducing CO2.
Animals go in the opposite direction. They take the Free Oxygen
and use it to Oxidize what the plant life builds. Thus you had
to have plant life first to support animal life.
All the rest of this nonsense is just trying to make a perpetual
motion machine. You have to have a source of energy coming in
continuously, which generally comes from the Sun, though
Geothermal energy does support some life. The energy is always
dissipating though as waste heat, thus the Universe is
constantly cooling toward Absolute Zero.
The only way it starts heating up again is if there is enough
Dark Matter out there for Gravity to start pulling it back
together and compress it all, into another Big Bang. This is
still a matter of conjecture, but it's a long ways off in any
event. Our Sun will burn out long before that happens.
To restore the Life balance on this planet, we need less Animal
Life and more Plant life. That is why so many animals are going
extinct. Too much biomass in the animal kingdom, not enough in
the plant kingdom. It's a Predator-Prey cycle. Two sinusoidal
curves, one trailing the other.
[img]
HTML https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Snehanshu-Saha/publication/258789499/figure/fig2/AS:667882170114062@1536246926423/The-predator-prey-sample-graph.ppm[/img]
Homo Saps are in the animal kingdom and one of the plant
predators.
RE
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