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#Post#: 1773--------------------------------------------------
Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: November 20, 2021, 1:59 pm
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> 51 people had been arrested, half of whom were under 18.
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> “Two rioters where wounded when they were hit by bullets, they
remain in hospital,” police added.
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> The city’s mayor, Ahmed Aboutaleb, said protest had turned
into “an **** of violence”.
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> “Police were forced to draw their weapons and even fire direct
shots,” he told a press conference early on Saturday.
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Teenagers that age are rarely politically engaged and never in
that way, normally if anything they hold a placard supporting
something their parents are into.
These kids can see where walking around holding signs is getting
the adults. DNFd as RE calls it lol. They belong to the group
that many countries have stopped vaxing because of the
statistics only on heart issues shortly following vaxn, usually
within a few hours. These teenagers may have heard about someone
having that, but maybe not, people are discouraged from talking
about AE because it might influence people not to get jabd.
The negative sanctioning is severe. I had a change.org petition
in my stream for people trying to get recognition and some
compensation for their imaginary injuries. They are seeking a
meeting with Biden and Fauci. They only had 2500 signatures. I
started reading the reasons for signing and they were almost all
from only the people claiming to be injured or their immediate
relative saying they need compensating. This tells me they have
no support from provax as the petitioners say they are told by
them they are anti vaxer and faking. They have no sympathy from
people who took notice of the fact that there would be no
compensation. To them, the only immunity the jab provides is for
the manufacturer. Also the language of their blurb is 'we
stepped up' instead of 'we screwed up' and 'we followed the
science' instead of 'we followed the science fiction' That's
all the word science being invoked without further elaboration
is, following science is a logical not emotional process where
you take the time to learn what is known. Ordinarily you can't
blame anyone trusting sources of authority, but in this case you
could not miss that there was a huge number not doing that. So
they get no sympathy from anyone when they talk like returning
veterans ignored by the DVA. They are more or less experiencing
something similar to one side calling them baby killers and the
other admonishing them for talking about killing babies.
For those kids rioting, figures are consistently about one in
5000 heart issues within hours after vax. Nobody has that many
friends, so chances of them knowing someone experiencing that
are slim. What I told my wife over 6 months ago was it would be
much more obvious within a school. When a kid has a heart attack
or drops dead on the basketball court or football field and that
is happening almost every day somewhere, the whole school will
be talking about it and then if it's in a match against another
team, everyone in that school will be talking about it as well
as everyone watching the game. Talk may go through the whole
league. In Europe football of the soccer type is really by far
the predominant sport. Only the English play cricket, rugby is a
minority. There have been a lot of soccer players having heart
attacks or dying on the field, so following and talking about
football, that would be known to them. If they get covid it is
about 97% mild or no symptoms, so they would see only risk and
no reward as reason to riot.
I haven't go ogled or ddg these names, they may all be made up.
I've seen plenty of collages of news headlines for others
though. One or more hits my inbox most days.
33 year old pro dancer Santo Giuliano suffers heart attack 5
days after vaccine
32 year old Olympic Tennis player Joachim Gerard collapses
during match with heart problems
19 year old Football player Jalen Leavey dies at campus after
the game
23 year old Baseball player Daniel Brito suffers stroke during
game
19 year old Football player Tirrell Williams dies following
on-field collapse
21 year old Football player Okafor Kelechi dies during training
29 year old Football player Lee Moses dies during training
session
15 year old Footballer Stephen Sylvester collapsed and dies
during conditioning practice
18 year old Football player Emmanual Antwi dies after collapsing
on the field
13 year old Football player Cajetan Chinoyelum Nsofor dies
during practice
15 year old Soccer player Moira Claire Arney died during
practice
Junior High School Baseball Pitcher Andrew Roseman died suddenly
and unexpectedly, no further information given
17 year old Footballer Nickolas Lawrinas died suddenly and
unexpectedly, cause given by media, unclear
17 year old Footballer Miquel Lugo collapsed and died during
practice
16 year old Football player Devon DuHart mysteriously died in
July 2021
16 year old Footballer Ivan Hicks dies of Cardiovascular Disease
during Scrimmage
19 year old Footballer Joe Bradshaw dies mysteriously off
campus, not conclusion of death
16 year old Football player Drake Geiger collapses and dies
during game
15 year old Football player Joshua Ivory collapses and dies
during game
19 year old Football player Quandarius Wilburn collapses during
practice and later dies
17 year old Football player Dimitri McKee passes out and dies
after practice
28 year old Rugby play Tevita Bryce collapses during game from
heart attack
29 year old Rugby player Dave Hyde collapses and dies after
match
27 year old Baseball player Yusuke Kinoshita collapses and dies
during practice
32 year old Champion Speed Skater Kjeld Nuis suffered
Pericarditis after the vaccine
24 year old Olympic Cyclist Olivia Podmore dies suddenly and
mysteriously in her room and during that week another athlete
sprinter Cameron Burell also dies mysteriously
23 year old China Olympics Champion Gilbert Kwemoi collapsed in
his home and died on the way to hospital
37-year-old former French professional footballer Franck Berrier
dead
Germany goalkeeping coach of SV Niederpöring suffers heart
attack
24 years Bordeaux pro Samuel Kalu suffers cardiac arrest
25 years old Belgian soccer player Jente Van Genechten suffers
cardiac arrest
31 years old Fabrice N'Sakala Besiktas Istanbul collapses on the
field
29 years old Pedro Obiang Italian first division after
vaccination has myocarditis
30 year old Venezuelan National Marathon Champion Alexaida
Guedez dead
29 years old José dos Reis (Luxembourg) collapses on the field
and has to be resuscitated
Germany C-League Dillenburg a player from Hirzenhain collapses,
the game is canceled
16 years old Diego Ferchaud from ASPTT Caen suffers a cardiac
arrest
Austria player of ASV Baden collapses on the field and has to be
revived
16-year-old unnamed football player in Bergamo suffers cardiac
arrest
27 years old Belgian amateur soccer player Jens De Smet dead
13-year-old soccer player from the Janus Nova club collapses on
the field with cardiac arrest
17 year old soccer player Dylan Rich dies of a double heart
attack during a game
Player from Birati Club Münster suffers cardiac arrest
24 years old Lucas Surek from BFC Chemie Leipzig suffers from
myocarditis
49 years old Ain / France: Frédéric Lartillot succumbs to a
heart attack in locker room
45 years old Andrea Astolfi, sporting director of Calcio Orsago
dead with no previous illness
22 years old Abou Ali collapses with cardiac arrest during a
two-tier game in Denmark
19 years old ice hockey player Sebastiaan Bos dead. Passed away
suddenly and unexpectedly
40 years old A half marathon runner collapsed during the race
and died a little later
Germany Anil Usta from VfB Schwelm breaks on the field with
heart problems
33 years old Dimitri Liénard from FC Strasbourg collapses with
heart problems
37 years old Ex-NFL professional Parys Haralson dies suddenly
and unexpectedly
25 years old Kingsley Coman from FC Bayern Munich, operation on
the heart after an arrhythmia
25 years old Canadian university football player Francis Perron
dead shortly after a match
19 year old FC Nantes soccer player suffers cardiac arrest
during training
Germany volleyball trainer Dirk Splisteser from SG Traktor
Divitz collapses dead on the sidelines
Austria, 64 years old former goalkeeper Ernst Scherr dead
suddenly and unexpectedly
Germany, 42 years old Alexander Siegfried dead suddenly and
unexpectedly
A 17-year-old athlete from Colverde collapses while training
with cardiac arrest
France, 49 years oldSC Massay player dead of heart attack during
the game
Mexico, Caddy Alberto Olguin collapses on the golf course after
a heart attack
29 years old Shrewsbury striker Ryan Bowman treated with
defibrillator during play with extreme heart problems
Italy, 18 year old soccer player suddenly faints on the field
France, 40 years old A Saint-James player suffers a heart attack
after warming up
Italy, 59 years old long-distance runner from Biella dies of
heart failure during a race
Germany, Women's League match, a player collapses shortly before
the end without any opposing influence
25 years German goalkeeper Lukas Bommer dies suddenly and
unexpectedly
Mexico, 16 years old student Hector Manuel Mendoza dies of a
heart attack while training
Brazil, 18 years old pro footballer Fellipe de Jesus Moreira has
double heart attack and is fighting for his life
Italy, 27 years old cycling champion Gianni Moscon has to
undergo an operation because of severe cardiac arrhythmias
Augsburg referee of a Kreisliga Augsburg game in Emersacker
collapses with heart problems
English lineswoman Helen Byrne, heart problems has to be carried
off the pitch at world cup
Germany Game abandoned due to cardiac arrest of the referee in a
game of Lauber SV
Italy, 20 years old young rider suffers a heart attack
17-year-old soccer player of the JSG High Hagen has revived
during game
53-year-old football coach Antonello Campus dead16 years old
collapses while playing soccer and dies a little later
Germany Team leader Dietmar Gladow suffers a fatal heart attack
before the game
USA a high school football player collapsed during practice and
died in the hospital
Germany player collapsed during the A 2 regional league game
suffered cardiac arrest
Germany 15 years old goalkeeper Bruno Stein dead
Italy, 53 years old AH footballer suffers a heart attack while
training
USA, 14-year-old soccer player Ava Azzopardi collapsed on pitch,
is fighting for her life in an artificial coma
France, 54 years old AH player Christophe Ramassamy died of a
heart attack during a match
France, 41 years old soccer player collapsed on the field and
died due to cardiac arrest
Austria, 26 years old Raphael Dwamena collapsed with severe
heart problems
Germany, Hertha BSC co-trainer Selim Levent dies suddenly and
unexpectedly
USA, 12 year old Jayson Kidd collapsed during basketball
practice and later died
Spain, 33-year-old striker Kun Agüero had to be replaced in a
game due to heart problems
USA 21 year old Senior student athlete John Stokes suffers with
Myocarditis
22 year old Cyclist Greg Luyssen forced to end his career after
vaccine due to heart problems.
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Eddie
Date: November 20, 2021, 2:56 pm
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> UK covid rate higher among vaxxed than unvaxxed
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>
HTML https://summit.news/2021/11/19/official-public-health-england-data-says-covid-infection-rates-higher-in-vaxxed-then-unvaxxed/
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> “Fresher information has fortified this conclusion of the
summer. In every age group over 30 in the UK, the rates of Covid
infection per 100,000 are now higher among the vaxxed than the
unvaxxed. Indeed, in the cohorts aged between 40 and 79,
infection rates among the vaccinated are more than twice as high
as among the unvaccinated. PHE’s fruitlessly rechristened body,
the UK Health Security Agency, frantically clarifies that the
data ‘should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness’, a
caveat which I include for the sake of accuracy. But the
differences in the infection rates are drastic enough for you to
draw your own conclusions.”
>
> Meanwhile, the Times reports the results of another study
which “found the double-jabbed are just as likely to pass on
Covid-19 as unvaccinated people.”
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This kind of ignorance of math is appalling. Consider.....if
nearly everyone has been vaccinated, as is the case in the UK
and some states here, then the pool of unvaxxed people who might
get sick gets diminishingly smaller over time....and so it is a
given that there will be more vaccinated people who have
infections than unvaccinated people, unless vaccination protects
everyone 100%, which we know is not the case.
Just stupid. Really appallingly dumb.
#Post#: 1775--------------------------------------------------
Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: November 20, 2021, 5:26 pm
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> [quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=47.msg1770#msg1770
date=1637430062]
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HTML https://sarahwestall.com/major-development-rabbinical-court-decrees-mrna-jab-absolutely-forbidden-for-children-adolescents-young-men-women/
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Yup that is where I'll get my go to info a religious body and a
website that sell detox kits...
I thought it sounded fishy...
HTML https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/inaccurate-claims-rabbinical-court-opposing-204803831.html
[/quote]
As I have said before, the Pfizer funded fact checkers always
twist things. Your yahoo (big tech) article says online articles
and social media posts claim this court is part of the Israeli
legal system. Note that the article I posted does not claim
that, and makes it clear that an Israel rabbinical court is part
of the Israeli legal system, while an American one is for
americans.
Yahoo goes on to say there are claims this is binding. Again the
article does not make that claim, not do the other article or
social media posts they link to. All say 'decreed'.
Yahoo left out this at the start of the article:
Editors Note: The special Rabbinical Court held in New York is
not part of the Israeli legal system rather it was built to
serve the United States Jewish community in the same fashion as
the Rabbinical Court does for the Jewish community in Israel.
The special court was established in New York for the purpose of
addressing the vaccine mandates and issues.
The Rabbinical courts do influence each other. It will remain to
be seen if this decision will produce the same decision from the
Rabbinical courts in Israel and elsewhere.
Clearly as stated, this was set up recently and happened in the
first week of November in response to the state of affairs at
this point in time and community concern. Yahoo pointing to
statements from 6 to 18 months ago.
The first is from a rabbinical council in Israel, not mentioning
vaxn at all, at a time when it was first beginning. It appears
to refer more to following mask wearing, social distancing and
lockdown. Even if you read into that, inclusion of vaccines the
state of knowledge at that time was in its infancy. There was
not time for community concerns to be relayed to rabbis asking
for answers.
The June 2021 reference mentions two rabbis in Israel calling
for vaxn of 12 and up. According to wiki, you need a council of
3 rabbis experienced in law to form a court. The way this works
is if the decree from NY was made earlier, not later, it should
be taken into consideration. 5 months on, the 2 in Israel can
explain their 30% above pre covid excess mortality in the past
few months, on their 3rd and 4th shots.
The last quote is actually from the USA and is only a rabbinical
court for family law matters. That they have no association with
what was recently convened on the question of mRNA Vax doesn't
prove anything.
Yahoo article mentions numerous rabbis and community members
attended from diverse backgrounds. It is the Hasidic ones that
signed off as a Hasidic council. It sounds like a whole bunch of
people who are actually paying attention and wanted to know the
facts heard the merits of the information. Their decision is it
should be absolutely forbidden. This obviously helps any case
for religious exemption, but cant control anyone.
I'd like to know where you DO get your go to info, if their
experts explaining why numerous countries halted the vax for the
young or pregnant is invalid because someone's website reporting
it is selling detox kits just like drug stores and supermarkets.
HTML https://westernstandardonline.com/2021/11/alberta-lawyer-files-complaint-against-pfizer/
#Post#: 1776--------------------------------------------------
Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Nearings fault
Date: November 20, 2021, 5:55 pm
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I try to assemble a point of view based on a variety of sources.
I do not think a yahoo news source is the end all beat all but
it beats the hell out of someone flogging detox kits and
vitality pills. At least they will be there tomorrow and have
some sort of standing in the online news world. Anything that
has any reach cannot do news is that it? your link is not a
direct copy of the link I posted to but is obviously a close
cousin of it. What is bothering me about the endless covid
posting is that there does not seem to be any critical analysis
of the links so long as they hit the target of "vaccines bad".
#Post#: 1778--------------------------------------------------
Re: Germany, With Higher Vaccination Rate Than U.S., Sees
Biggest Ever Surge in COVID Cases
DIR By: monsta666
Date: November 20, 2021, 6:55 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=47.msg1747#msg1747
date=1637360927]
No, clearly you get more cases and death with more Vax. That
pattern is undeniable in every country with mRNA Vax and high
coverage. Open your eyes not only to the before and after, but
the rest of the world where the impact has been minimal, eg
africa. [/QUOTE]
Whilst I could believe the side-effects of the mRNA vaccine have
been understated to say the vaccines cause more death than covid
is quite a stretch. When looking at the latest daily case number
in the UK we get a figure of 40,941 cases with 150 deaths on
20th November. Latest hospital admissions due to covid come to
881 on 16th November. If we check a comparable case load when
vaccines take up was almost non-existent the story is very
different. For example on 15th January 2021 there were 40,374
new cases and 1,225 deaths. Hospital admissions that day were
3,686. That represents a difference of 1075 in death for just
for one day. In addition the number of hospital admissions was
over four times greater so not only are deaths saved directly
but the increased strain of admitting all those people means
that the number indirect excess deaths is also likely higher.
There is no doubt vaccines not only save lifes but they also
reduce hospital loads substantially thus play a big part in
ensuring the healthcare system does not collapse.
This high death rate is present throughout the whole month of
January so it is not like I am cherry picking a date. If you
want to know where I got this date please look at the UK
government Covid dashboard:
HTML https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Dates and individual data points are readily available so it
easy to check and verify claims like this. To say vaccines cause
more deaths is simply untrue unless you are insinuating that
vaccines cause over 1000 deaths a day in Britain. The main point
that I will say is that the main benefit of the covid vaccine is
to reduce death and serious illness. It is disappointing but in
terms of transmission the vaccines are not so effective in
keeping rates down although one should note that in January the
dominant strain was the less virulent alpha strain. Also in 2020
we got the original covid strain which was less infectious still
so to say vaccines cause more covid cases is problematic as you
cannot make a direct comparison. The strains are different so
you will be making an apples to oranges comparisons.
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: November 20, 2021, 8:52 pm
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--- Quote from: Eddie link ---
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> [quote author=Digwe Must link=topic=47.msg1767#msg1767
date=1637428725]
> UK covid rate higher among vaxxed than unvaxxed
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>
>
HTML https://summit.news/2021/11/19/official-public-health-england-data-says-covid-infection-rates-higher-in-vaxxed-then-unvaxxed/
>
> “Fresher information has fortified this conclusion of the
summer. In every age group over 30 in the UK, the rates of Covid
infection per 100,000 are now higher among the vaxxed than the
unvaxxed. Indeed, in the cohorts aged between 40 and 79,
infection rates among the vaccinated are more than twice as high
as among the unvaccinated. PHE’s fruitlessly rechristened body,
the UK Health Security Agency, frantically clarifies that the
data ‘should not be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness’, a
caveat which I include for the sake of accuracy. But the
differences in the infection rates are drastic enough for you to
draw your own conclusions.”
>
> Meanwhile, the Times reports the results of another study
which “found the double-jabbed are just as likely to pass on
Covid-19 as unvaccinated people.”
>
--- End Quote ---
The same idiots will ignore a case of COVID-19 can result in
myocarditis. They think the only way you can get it is from the
vax. ation protects everyone 100%, which we know is not the
case.
Just stupid. Really appallingly dumb.
[/quote]
The same idiots will ignore that a case of COVID-19 can result
in myocarditis. They think the only way you can get myocarditis
is from the vax. Covid-19 it turns out has a spike protein just
like the vax does. Surprise surprise, who could-ah knowd?
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Digwe Must
Date: November 21, 2021, 12:27 am
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> [quote author=Eddie link=topic=47.msg1774#msg1774
date=1637441773]
> [quote author=Digwe Must link=topic=47.msg1767#msg1767
date=1637428725]
> UK covid rate higher among vaxxed than unvaxxed
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>
>
--- End Quote ---
The same idiots will ignore a case of COVID-19 can result in
myocarditis. They think the only way you can get it is from the
vax. ation protects everyone 100%, which we know is not the
case.
Just stupid. Really appallingly dumb.
[/quote]
The same idiots will ignore that a case of COVID-19 can result
in myocarditis. They think the only way you can get myocarditis
is from the vax. Covid-19 it turns out has a spike protein just
like the vax does. Surprise surprise, who could-ah knowd?
[/quote]
I assume I'm the idiot you are referring to as it was my post.
As it happens I am well aware that myocarditis results from
covid 19. Well before vaccines were pushed I knew, and knew of,
two young athletes who got bad cases of the virus and wound up
with myocarditis. One has recovered and one will never be the
same. I also know (personally and well) two young people (mid
30s)who have had bad reactions to the vaccines. (several more
with short term problems - more prevalent among the young) One
has recovered - pretty much. The guy I'm worried about got
pneumonia which took a long time and has the lingering brain
fog. He's a VERY sharp young man - or was. He's aware of it.
I believe it is contributing to a decline in emotional health as
well as clarity.
We're old. We know people who have died from Covid. Every one
of them was diabetic or obese or really old, or had heart,
liver, lung, blood pressure, kidney, cognitive, etc. problems.
We've always taken the virus very seriously and always work to
enhance immunity. That is why we haven't had colds or flu in
many years.
As I've said before, taking the vaccine is a matter of risk
assessment. If I were in contact with compromised people I'd
take the jab. If I had to stand behind a cash register all day
at a Piggly-wiggly breathing the fumes in order to feed my kids
- I'd take the jab. If I had a profession like Eddie's I'd take
the jab. However, if you try to force me to take the jab...
well good luck with that.
You choose to believe Big Pharma and the corporate state. That
is certainly your call. Referring to people who disagree with
you as idiots does nothing to advance your arguments or
conclusions. How does that teach anybody anything? I know, you
just like it. It makes you feel good. Tough guys. But, it's
about as effective as calling a kid "poopyhead" in second grade.
Frankly, I don't believe you'd have the balls to say it to my
face. I've told you this before. It takes neither courage or
integrity to insult someone online. Real tough guys.
In a couple of years, if I am still alive, if the vaccine has
proven safe and effective, the pandemic is over, boosters
infinitum have done the trick, (just one more and you can have
Christmas) I will be happy - really happy - to admit that I am
wrong (It wouldn't be the first time - idiots get lots of
practice) and that you folks really knew what you were doing.
I'll place roses at the Fauci shrine.
I think that you have a religious conviction about these
vaccines. Well, God bless you. There is enough contradictory
information out there that I envy your certitude. Getting the
vax is like baptism for some. However, as far as I can tell, PT
Barnum was right. There's one born every minute. I truly would
rather I was wrong about that. But I'm not.
I think no matter where one stands on this issue it's obvious
that people with agendas manipulate data to fit their program.
We have all heard that some deaths were attributed to Covid that
were not actually caused by Covid. We have also heard that the
opposite is true - that in some facilities deaths caused by
Covid were underreported. Studying total deaths will clear this
up over time. The figures that Phil Potts posted from Israel
regarding a dramatic rise in total deaths among a highly vaxxed
population is alarming no matter the cause. IF these numbers
are vaxx related, and IF the trend continues, only blind,
willful ignorance will ignore the truth. IF the trend fades or
is attributable to another factor that would go along way to
proving the safety of the vaxx.
The total death count in highly vaxxed countries should tell the
people who honestly study this stuff (not the ones funded by
Pharmaco/govt/ ) how safe the jabs are. If there is a rise in
the death toll from health conditions that are suspected to be
vaxx related the gross number of deaths will show it.
Individually, cause of death can be manipulated - but the gross
number can't be hidden in the developed world.
We do know the effectiveness of the vaccines is much less than
advertised and they wear out fast. So, more jabs...Hail Mary
full of grace.
I wish you health and longevity. I hope your belief in the
vaccines is rewarded. I hope your government has your best
interests in mind. A return to normal is right around the corner
because... well because there's no place like home.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P0cbNZ9uQ4
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: November 21, 2021, 1:14 am
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> I assume I'm the idiot you are referring to as it was my post.
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No I was just agreeing with Eddies observation about many people
passing for adults who are not able to appreciate basic math
concepts and who can't excercise simple common sense. Nobody in
particular.
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: November 21, 2021, 3:31 am
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--- Quote from: K-Dog link ---
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>
> The same idiots will ignore that a case of COVID-19 can result
in myocarditis. They think the only way you can get myocarditis
is from the vax. Covid-19 it turns out has a spike protein just
like the vax does. Surprise surprise, who could-ah knowd?
>
--- End Quote ---
It's not directed at Digwe, I'm the one who just posted a list
of about 200 athletes who died or had a heart attack. Yes I'm
aware covid can cause myocarditis.
I don't think covid is just a respiratory virus, I think it has
components akin to TB, Herpes or Gonorrhoe and Hepatitis. That
is not my field, I'm just trying to describe that it's not 'just
the flu' that takes out the old without any typical high infant
mortality. There is no interest from govt in the west unlike
other places to understand the disease and inform us.
I'm aware the fact checkers are pointing out you can get
myocarditis from covid as well. Obviously there was not the
same wellspring of myocarditis prior to the vaccn, teens almost
always had mild or no symptoms. Life is very cheap in a
totalitarian dystopia. I think this will be normal in 3 yrs
unless something changes. Click on pics
[attach=1]
[attach=2]
Yourself, NF, Eddie and Monsta all have looked at this post
Digwe made, and probably all know the meaning of 'rate of' and
'per 100'000'. Bottom line for 40-49 yr old age group, there is
over twice the rate of infection for vaccinated as unvaccinated.
It's not just a higher total number, it's corrected for head of
population. I think if you had heard this beforehand, would have
no problem saying it's true:
“We didn’t have vaccines that block transmission...We got
vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly
reduce transmission.” (Gates interview with Jeremy Hunt for
Policy Exchange).
"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection
but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is
starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the
elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're
seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and
more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough
infections are winding up in the hospital."
HTML https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/dr-fauci-just-issued-urgent-201846228.html
In the other thread that got sidetracked, there was some
discussion of Martenson being exceptionally clever, but
criticised for quickly changing course. I've paid very little
attention to him in the past so do not know much about him, but
the penny dropping for him and having an aha moment, instead of
letting emotional investment mean he is married to a theory as
many academics are, suggests to me he may well be as clever as
you say. RE of the +4SD IQ can also update his reality based on
new information on this question.
Relying on innacurate representations of the world can not
produce the best success and under real pressure decides
survival. I thought that was the whole point of talking about
what's happening on all topics. Maybe it's just too hard when it
arrives in a way we didn't anticipate.
I don't enjoy raining on the parade and it takes up time I
should be using to do other things. I'll finish answering this
round of posts and then stop.
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Re: COVID Errata
DIR By: RE
Date: November 21, 2021, 4:22 am
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The Covid debate here is quite a good demonstration of the fact
this forum is NOT an "echo chamber".
I identify 3 main POVs among the 10 or so people who contribute,
Pro Vaxx, Anti Vaxx & Pro Choice. The debate is sufficiently
intense that people feel butt hurt because their POV is implied
to be a stupid one. And the usual thing is happening, which is
that at a certain point, all POVs are fed up with discussing the
issue, because nobody is changing their mind based on such
discussion. You stake out your position, and defend it to the
bitter end. lol.
Covid will be around for a good while to come, and Goobermints
will continue to react to this in various ways. What can you DO
about this? Street Protests are an option, capitulating and
getting jabbed is an option, avoidance behavior is an option.
I am mainly interested in how the pandemic affects the
economics. It's not killing THAT big a percentage of the
population it will result in an extinction anytime soon. 1%
maybe? It is however wreaking absolute HAVOC with the economic
system and the culture, even at such a low mortality rate.
There lies the real problem with Covid, not whether the Vaxx
works or whether it causes as many problems as it solves.
That's the view from 3 SD above the mean. lol. I won't claim 4,
you just can't measure that. ;D
RE
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