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       #Post#: 413--------------------------------------------------
       Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: Eddie Date: May 27, 2021, 9:51 pm
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       FYI.
  HTML https://youtu.be/yziRK7j0Zpw
       #Post#: 414--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: RE Date: May 28, 2021, 12:58 am
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=32.msg413#msg413 date=1622170300]
       FYI.
  HTML https://youtu.be/yziRK7j0Zpw
       [/quote]
       TL:DW.  Synopsis please.
       RE
       #Post#: 418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: K-Dog Date: May 28, 2021, 3:12 am
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       I don't care for this guy assigning a political persuasion to
       criminals who should be put on the front of an old fashioned
       plow and turned into a horse.
       [img]
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       I google for an Antifa membership card and could not find one.
       Look, you don't have to convince me that assholes exist and some
       people call them Antifa.  You do have to convince me that Anifa
       actually exists.  The problem is you can't find a 'member' that
       does not belong in a straight jacket.  Hence no organization any
       more than there are Michael Jackson fans plotting to take over
       the world.
       I have a minority  attitude which most people can't understand.
       The You Tube channel I am a part of brought this subject up only
       last week.  My buddies got upset over a truck carrying a
       Palestinian flag that was allegedly harassing Jews.  My reaction
       was I want to know who they are before I invest in any hate.
       How do you know false flags are not playing everyone for a fool.
       You don't know and either do I and that is the rub.  Without a
       positive ID you can't tell who is playing who.
       It was pointed out to me the truck with the flag could not have
       been a FF setup because the video was only found by searching
       and was 'obscure'.
       And I say that is exactly how it is done.  'obscure' is
       eminently controllable.
       From my perspective I was able to watch the globe on my website
       light up last week when I simply typed a certain name into
       Google on my other screen.  By lighting up I know exactly what
       some address hits mean.  It lit up big.   Multiple hits from the
       same source.  And fast too.  It only does that when they are
       really pissed.
       The name I Googled was an American citizen who had his passport
       revoked and had to live in exile until he died.  An American
       whistleblower the CIA wants everyone to forget but who actually
       lived.  A genuine American tank man.
       From my perspective how the **** do people not get that if
       Antifa or Q-Anon actually exist the FBI knows if they do
       'Fruit-of-the-Loom' or 'Haynes' or if they simply go 'commando'.
       What is so hard to understand.  Algorithms are watching
       everything we do and if we get interesting enough personal
       attention results.  It is a fact of life.
       [img]
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       Personal attention has happened to me.  A side effect of which
       the curtain the wizard hides behind is sort of ToTo'ed away.
       [img]
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       And when it  comes to 'It came from a lab' I am a total killjoy.
       You say it came from a lab I say fine, come up with a hypothesis
       and test it and if you can't do that shut your piehole because
       you are irresponsible and cultivating bad behavior among idiots.
       Even then I fail to see how how it came from a lab or not could
       be useful.
       (I can't remember where you are on Wuhan Labs Eddie, I'm just
       ranting demanding the scientific method.)
       #Post#: 421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: Phil Potts Date: May 28, 2021, 2:06 pm
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       [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=32.msg418#msg418 date=1622189530]
       I don't care for this guy assigning a political persuasion to
       criminals who should be put on the front of an old fashioned
       plow and turned into a horse.
       [img]
  HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicdomainpictures.net%2Fpictures%2F260000%2Ft2%2Fold-fashion-hand-plow.jpg&f=1&nofb=1[/img]
       I google for an Antifa membership card and could not find one.
       Look, you don't have to convince me that assholes exist and some
       people call them Antifa.  You do have to convince me that Anifa
       actually exists.  The problem is you can't find a 'member' that
       does not belong in a straight jacket.  Hence no organization any
       more than there are Michael Jackson fans plotting to take over
       the world.
       I have a minority  attitude which most people can't understand.
       The You Tube channel I am a part of brought this subject up only
       last week.  My buddies got upset over a truck carrying a
       Palestinian flag that was allegedly harassing Jews.  My reaction
       was I want to know who they are before I invest in any hate.
       How do you know false flags are not playing everyone for a fool.
       You don't know and either do I and that is the rub.  Without a
       positive ID you can't tell who is playing who.
       It was pointed out to me the truck with the flag could not have
       been a FF setup because the video was only found by searching
       and was 'obscure'.
       And I say that is exactly how it is done.  'obscure' is
       eminently controllable.
       From my perspective I was able to watch the globe on my website
       light up last week when I simply typed a certain name into
       Google on my other screen.  By lighting up I know exactly what
       some address hits mean.  It lit up big.   Multiple hits from the
       same source.  And fast too.  It only does that when they are
       really pissed.
       The name I Googled was an American citizen who had his passport
       revoked and had to live in exile until he died.  An American
       whistleblower the CIA wants everyone to forget but who actually
       lived.  A genuine American tank man.
       From my perspective how the **** do people not get that if
       Antifa or Q-Anon actually exist the FBI knows if they do
       'Fruit-of-the-Loom' or 'Haynes' or if they simply go 'commando'.
       What is so hard to understand.  Algorithms are watching
       everything we do and if we get interesting enough personal
       attention results.  It is a fact of life.
       [img]
  HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.lJUq-W5B3K-eQXMJS3XHUQHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1[/img]
       Personal attention has happened to me.  A side effect of which
       the curtain the wizard hides behind is sort of ToTo'ed away.
       [img]
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       And when it  comes to 'It came from a lab' I am a total killjoy.
       You say it came from a lab I say fine, come up with a hypothesis
       and test it and if you can't do that shut your piehole because
       you are irresponsible and cultivating bad behavior among idiots.
       Even then I fail to see how how it came from a lab or not could
       be useful.
       (I can't remember where you are on Wuhan Labs Eddie, I'm just
       ranting demanding the scientific method.)
       [/quote]
       Re what you questioned: 30 guys apparently beat up on a Jewish
       guy for his tshirt, leaving slight swelling that he assured us
       was much worse. No charges apparently. I put it to you that if
       there are 30 guys of a single mind to do violence all
       congregated together, not at a party or ball game, just
       wandering around, they would be a well known crime gang that
       could be assembled for a line up and would do a hell of a lot
       more damage.
       On Andy Ngo, I note he said Antifa range in age from 15-30 and
       always have their charges dropped and released by a court system
       so sympathetic it seems just a little suspicious to me. Every
       member he showed was white and in their 20s. He says they are
       usually homeless. He mentioned those police type telescopic
       batons I noticed they have to break windows, also in breaking
       heads. He can only determine that go fund me raises bail money,
       no mention of all the matching clothing and equipment.
       I think it more likely that homeless people have more pressing
       problems than getting involved in activism and the Antifa just
       don't want to give their address because it may reveal who
       really recruits and controls them. The trillion dollar budget
       probably has room for it.
       The second graphic above is on point.
       #Post#: 422--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: K-Dog Date: May 28, 2021, 8:03 pm
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       Those telescoping batons are nasty.  My son has one.  He used it
       against a bicycle thief last week.  (He only had to threaten to
       use it).  Gave it to me and I gave it a swing to whip it out.
       Just doing that gives you a sense of how well balanced they are
       and how much damage you could do.  Anybody raising an arm in
       defense would get it snapped on the first blow.
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       There is a guy who got a beating for wearing a 'Just Jew It' T
       shirt.  The idiot did think it was offensive.
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       Just Jew it as in steal Palestinian land and he does not see how
       it could possibly be offensive.  He deserves another beatdown
       for being an idiot.  I give him no sympathy.
       The flash mob of thirty guys, I agree.  Highly suspicious.  I
       would not trust three people.  Certainly not thirty.  And if
       they moved together phone surveillance could identify every
       single one of them.  Cell phone swarm software.  Just keep a
       list of phones within 10 meters of a targeted individual.  Any
       of them will do.  Then check the list as the phone moves and you
       would identify everyone in the swarm.
       [img]
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       #Post#: 433--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: Eddie Date: June 2, 2021, 7:20 am
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       [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=32.msg418#msg418 date=1622189530]
       I don't care for this guy assigning a political persuasion to
       criminals who should be put on the front of an old fashioned
       plow and turned into a horse.
       [img]
  HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicdomainpictures.net%2Fpictures%2F260000%2Ft2%2Fold-fashion-hand-plow.jpg&f=1&nofb=1[/img]
       I google for an Antifa membership card and could not find one.
       Look, you don't have to convince me that assholes exist and some
       people call them Antifa.  You do have to convince me that Anifa
       actually exists.  The problem is you can't find a 'member' that
       does not belong in a straight jacket.  Hence no organization any
       more than there are Michael Jackson fans plotting to take over
       the world.
       I have a minority  attitude which most people can't understand.
       The You Tube channel I am a part of brought this subject up only
       last week.  My buddies got upset over a truck carrying a
       Palestinian flag that was allegedly harassing Jews.  My reaction
       was I want to know who they are before I invest in any hate.
       How do you know false flags are not playing everyone for a fool.
       You don't know and either do I and that is the rub.  Without a
       positive ID you can't tell who is playing who.
       It was pointed out to me the truck with the flag could not have
       been a FF setup because the video was only found by searching
       and was 'obscure'.
       And I say that is exactly how it is done.  'obscure' is
       eminently controllable.
       From my perspective I was able to watch the globe on my website
       light up last week when I simply typed a certain name into
       Google on my other screen.  By lighting up I know exactly what
       some address hits mean.  It lit up big.   Multiple hits from the
       same source.  And fast too.  It only does that when they are
       really pissed.
       The name I Googled was an American citizen who had his passport
       revoked and had to live in exile until he died.  An American
       whistleblower the CIA wants everyone to forget but who actually
       lived.  A genuine American tank man.
       From my perspective how the **** do people not get that if
       Antifa or Q-Anon actually exist the FBI knows if they do
       'Fruit-of-the-Loom' or 'Haynes' or if they simply go 'commando'.
       What is so hard to understand.  Algorithms are watching
       everything we do and if we get interesting enough personal
       attention results.  It is a fact of life.
       [img]
  HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.explicit.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.lJUq-W5B3K-eQXMJS3XHUQHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1[/img]
       Personal attention has happened to me.  A side effect of which
       the curtain the wizard hides behind is sort of ToTo'ed away.
       [img]
  HTML https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.yourtango.com%2Fcdn%2Ffarfuture%2FI06Il3j-JPUYlB80fZyeLsa8dt8QVES0RumslA5r3aE%2Fmtime%3A1487785355%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2016%2520Oct%2Fezgif-1-bb68b5d8a4.gif&f=1&nofb=1[/img]
       And when it  comes to 'It came from a lab' I am a total killjoy.
       You say it came from a lab I say fine, come up with a hypothesis
       and test it and if you can't do that shut your piehole because
       you are irresponsible and cultivating bad behavior among idiots.
       Even then I fail to see how how it came from a lab or not could
       be useful.
       (I can't remember where you are on Wuhan Labs Eddie, I'm just
       ranting demanding the scientific method.)
       [/quote]
       I always said it came from the lab, and I always will, because
       that narrative happens to fit every actual pertinent fact I’ve
       been able to ascertain, and the species-jumping-in-the-wild
       story just doesn’t hang together.
       As far as I know, I’m not cultivating any behavior at all among
       anybody. I’m not on any social media (other than watching
       YouTube and very occasionally leaving a comment there)....and
       you see how hard I campaign for anything here. Frankly, it
       doesn’t much matter to me, now that I’m vaccinated, and managed
       to survive and work through the pandemic, which was not a given.
       #Post#: 434--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Ngo Speaks on Antifa at Hillsdale College
       By: Phil Potts Date: June 2, 2021, 5:19 pm
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       The problem being 'a' and 'the' are as wide apart as A and Z,
       for cultivating behavior among idiots.
       #Post#: 435--------------------------------------------------
       cultivating behavior among idiots
       By: K-Dog Date: June 2, 2021, 10:21 pm
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       [quote]The U.S. vaccine map looks a lot like a map of how states
       vote in presidential elections, with most blue states
       vaccinating at levels well above the national average and GOP
       states bringing up the rear.[/quote]
       [img]
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       It is too easy to make people believe nonsense.  Many people
       have a low immunity to nonsense.
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       Can Help.  But not everyone can be helped.   Masks can't protect
       from stupid.
       So, I care more about what I put out into the universe now.
       What I emit.  A substantial part of the population should be
       kept away from sharp objects and Guy McPherson.  They will
       believe anything they are told.
       [quote]One of the conspiracy theories that have plagued attempts
       to keep people informed during the pandemic is the idea that the
       coronavirus was created in a laboratory.
       Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a contagious disease
       caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
       (SARS-CoV-2).
       The genetic makeup or “genome” of SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced
       and publicly shared thousands of times by scientists all over
       the world. If the virus had been genetically engineered in a lab
       there would be signs of manipulation in the genome data. This
       would include evidence of an existing viral sequence as the
       backbone for the new virus, and obvious, targeted inserted (or
       deleted) genetic elements.[/quote]
       [quote]Overall, bats have few natural predators.[34] Horseshoe
       bat predators [/b]include birds in the order Accipitriformes
       (hawks, eagles, and kites), as well as falcons and owls.[35][36]
       Snakes may also prey on some species while they roost in
       caves,[37] and domestic cats may hunt them as well.[38] A 2019
       study near a colony of bats in central Italy found that 30% of
       examined cat feces contained the remains of greater horseshoe
       bats.
       The lineage of the virus that causes COVID-19 appears to have
       branched off from its closest viral relatives about 40 to 70
       years ago, the authors wrote in Nature Microbiology. And other
       viruses in the same branch of the family likely share a similar
       ability to latch onto cells in human airways, said Maciej F.
       Boni, a Pennsylvania State University biologist and lead study
       author.
       [img]
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       “It’s very likely there are lots of other lineages that nobody
       knows about, because nobody has sampled, that are circulating
       quietly in bats,” he said. “Potentially all of them could have
       this ability to infect humans.[/quote]
       [glow=red,2,300]I propose one Chinese cat with a compromised
       immune system.[/glow]
       Pet population in China: 2018-2022
       Category
       2022
       Total population
       8.2
       Fish population
       4.0
       Dog population
       9.8
       Bird population
       0.9
       Cat population
       18.5
       Reptile population
       0.3
       Small mammal population      2,190.4
       1.0
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       Claims he was never sick.
       Uh -  Huh  he does.
       * The collections of quotes are what I found going down the
       rabbit hole.  A compelling case  The square feet of apartment
       space occupied by cats in China far exceeds Wuhan Lab floor
       area.
       In assessing relative threat, threat will be proportional to
       occupied floor space coupled by a constant of proportionality.
       Constant of proportionality ----> y = kx   Where k relates
       the threat presented by a lab animal vs the threat presented by
       a free roaming cat with a compromised immune system.
       #Post#: 443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I’m not an idiot, I’m a truth-teller
       By: Eddie Date: June 3, 2021, 3:29 pm
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       And other people are responsible for their own bad behavior.
       All I ever said (and I said it on the Diner many months ago now)
       is fairly well encapsulated in this piece from Vanity Fair. I am
       no longer a voice crying out in the wilderness. The worm, as.
       they say, has turned on this one.
  HTML https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
       #Post#: 448--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I’m not an idiot, I’m a truth-teller
       By: K-Dog Date: June 4, 2021, 12:37 pm
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       [quote author=Eddie link=topic=32.msg443#msg443 date=1622752150]
       And other people are responsible for their own bad behavior.
       All I ever said (and I said it on the Diner many months ago now)
       is fairly well encapsulated in this piece from Vanity Fair. I am
       no longer a voice crying out in the wilderness. The worm, as.
       they say, has turned on this one.
  HTML https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
       [/quote]
       That is a very good article.  Well balanced and probing.
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