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Re: Climate Doom
By: Nearings fault Date: July 20, 2021, 5:33 am
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There is starting to be a lot of interest in recycling used
lithium batteries due to the volume going up. It never made
sense before as they were rare. Currently most used car lithium
packs are being either bought up by the car makers to turn into
grid back up or hobbyists to make battery banks of their own. As
lithium ages it loses its ability to hold maximum charge it does
not stop working. Lots of second life possibilities there.
Nissan just announced a large grid backup project in Europe
using old leaf packs Lots of valuable substances in them too so
they will eventually be recycled.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Eddie Date: July 20, 2021, 10:39 am
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So...my second Volt....the 2018 model, had some kind of early
battery pack failure and was replaced under warranty before the
car was 3 months old. I suspect it was a minor issue, but I
don’t know. Since then we’ve had excellent service and at 60K
miles there is no noticeable battery degradation.
I am sorry that the VOLT was DC’ed by Chevy. I understand the
economics of it, but it’s a shame, because there is a niche for
a serial hybrid (or close fascimile to a serial hybrid, which is
how I’d describe the Volt). I let my wife start driving it, and
now she’s hooked, With a 50 mile range, she almost never puts
gas in it.
The 2009 Prius we had went over 150K, and it went the way of
most modern cars, with minor electronic systems starting to get
glitchy and fail....the AC finally quit working and it’s so
complicated do work on, that the shop never quite got it back
together right. It has so many harnesses and plugs and it’s all
inside the dash. Not made to work on at all. Great while it
lasts.
I’m contemplating the upcoming full electric Chevy Silverado
that is coming out...I think maybe next year or the year after.
But I like hybrids and hate to see them get phased out.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Nearings fault Date: July 20, 2021, 3:23 pm
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I would someday like to build a bank out of nimh packs myself
from the Priuses. More stable and forgiving then lithium with
good longevity. Just for grid tied backup.
This company here is an example of what is to come. Their packs
are still too expensive though, almost on par with new lithium
batteries . When all those halflife lithium packs get in the
hands of off gridders it will be a game changer.
HTML https://volts.ca/products/second-life-lithium-ion-1x-tesla-215?variant=37331711295650¤cy=CAD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6NmHBhD2ARIsAI3hrM0rymkkyB5ngLdL_75ephzmv-gyYdx1r5zZ3DlhylQgDhtToVNLjRkaAqDIEALw_wcB
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Nearings fault Date: July 22, 2021, 4:27 pm
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Here is a decent article about EV battery repurposing and
recycling.
HTML https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/what-happens-to-old-batteries/
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Climate Doom: How the dynamics of a heating planet are driving e
xtreme weather
By: John of Wallan Date: July 22, 2021, 4:53 pm
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Good explainer in the local paper.
We have come off a record wet 2020 with a wet summer, and a
prediction of a wetter than average spring. Just came through
La-nina and read something about Indian Ocean Di-pole predicting
wet spring. Iwill try and find the article.
Hotter and wetter seems to be whats happening in SE Oz.
When we get next El-nino is when it will get interesting. Thats
when heat comes out of ocean and we end up recored tempos and
dry here. Bit Like what West coast of North America is copping
now.
JOW
Link:
HTML https://www.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-the-dynamics-of-a-heating-planet-are-driving-extreme-weather-20210722-p58c1c.html
Text:
How the dynamics of a heating planet are driving extreme weather
Peter Hannam
By Peter Hannam
July 22, 2021 — 4.50pm
The heatwaves and deluges that have inflicted misery on millions
of people in the northern hemisphere’s extreme summer reveal
just how little is understood about how a heating planet will
drive weather change.
Weeks after Canada baked in desert-like temperatures and western
US records melted in multitudes, five “heat domes” have formed,
spawning what the Washington Post described as an “infestation
of heatwaves”. The Los Angeles Times opined about a “hell on
earth” as wildfires erupted in the US.
Huge wildfires across the western US states have followed a
severe heatwave, made worse by a deepening drought.
Huge wildfires across the western US states have followed a
severe heatwave, made worse by a deepening drought.CREDIT:AP
But the intense weather hasn’t been confined to heat. Germany
and neighbouring parts of Europe last week copped months’ worth
of rain in a day.
Zhengzhou, a city of 10 million people in central China’s Henan
province, was swamped by a year’s rain over four days to
Tuesday, turning roads into raging rivers and drowning at least
a dozen subway rail commuters.
Vehicles are stranded in floodwater near Zhengzhou Railway
Station in central China’s Henan province.
Vehicles are stranded in floodwater near Zhengzhou Railway
Station in central China’s Henan province.CREDIT:GETTY
Researchers say that assessing the role the warming planet has
played in exacerbating these extremes will take time.
Some basic connections are well understood, such as global
temperatures have warmed about one degree over the past century
and for Australia, the increase is 1.4 degrees.
With the atmosphere capable of holding 7 per cent more moisture
per degree of heating, that means there’s more rain available
that can be potentially dumped on populations and ecosystems
below.
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“It’s no longer about climate change, it’s about weather
change,” Christian Jakob, an atmospheric scientist at Monash
University, said. “The warming of our planet is changing the
dynamics of high-impact weather events, and as we have seen just
recently, with potentially dramatic consequences.”
Streets and homes damaged by the flooding of the Ahr River in
Bad Neuenahr, Germany.
Streets and homes damaged by the flooding of the Ahr River in
Bad Neuenahr, Germany. CREDIT:GETTY
Professor Jakob says the focus of climate modelling has largely
been to project long-term changes, such as how many degrees the
world will heat by the end of the century, based on various
scenarios of how much more greenhouse gas emissions we pump into
the atmosphere.
However, as these recent weeks have shown, too little is
understood about what might happen to the peak of heatwaves,
say, or the most torrential of thunderstorms.
“While our overall expectation is that in a warmer world we will
see an increase in such events, the details of where, when and
how remain elusive,” Professor Jakob said.
Andrew King, a Climate Extremes Research Fellow at the
University of Melbourne, said while heatwaves and flooding are a
feature of every summer, “what we’ve seen this year has been
exceptional in many ways”.
“The temperature records in western North America were a long
way off the charts,” Dr King said. “The devastating floods in
parts of Europe were unusual and these events in general
highlight how we need to build much greater resilience to
extremes that will become more common as the world continues to
warm.”
One large-scale shift that scientists are interested in is the
apparent slowing of weather systems that cause a high-pressure,
creating a so-called “heat dome” or rain event to linger over a
region.
One potential culprit is the warming Arctic, which is heating at
three times the global average, and is an important influence on
northern hemisphere weather even at lower latitudes, Dr King
said. Research is limited so far but the clues are there.
“Warming over the Arctic and a reduced temperature gradient from
the equator to the North Pole may mean that the jet stream and
associated weather patterns at the surface stay in the same
locations for longer,” he said. “This could lead to heat
building up over longer periods and more persistent heavy rain
events that lead to worsening floods.”
Professor Jakob said a narrowing temperature range also applies
to the southern hemisphere, adding the implications could have a
range of consequences.
“Importantly, weather changes are not just important when they
are extreme,” he said. “For example, are the day-to-day winds
changing and how does that affect where we should put wind
farms?”
Most climate models operate at resolutions of 100 by 100
kilometres, so events such as thunderstorms have to be
programmed to approximate what might happen at levels planners
and the population will want to know. Unfortunately, the
computing costs will be enormous to get to the one kilometre
resolution needed.
“It’s a paradigm shift” in climate science that’s needed,
Professor Jakob said. “It’ll be cheaper, though, than buying
submarines or helicopters” to know where and how the weather
will change.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: John of Wallan Date: July 22, 2021, 5:04 pm
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[quote author=Nearings fault link=topic=14.msg651#msg651
date=1626989261]
Here is a decent article about EV battery repurposing and
recycling.
HTML https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/what-happens-to-old-batteries/
[/quote]
What about now obsolete Ni-Cad wet cell batteries?
In a previous life I used to recycle these. 90% of the time
there was nothing wrong with them despite being 50+ yeras old.
Were usually replaced as part of a maintenance regime. We even
sold a heap of them second hand to farmers for electric fences
and electric gates. I also heard of old rubber case batteries
being replaced after near 100 years of service in a Sydney phone
exchange due to rubber cases degrading and leaking KOh solution,
but batteries worked fine otherwise.
I am not a battery expert and know very little about them. I was
told they are low energy density but have an incredible service
life. They are also very low tech. There was nothing complex
when we recycled them. Please correct me if I am wrong on the
long life assumption.,
I always thought that simplicity and longevity would be number
one and two consideration for long term off grid. particularly
in difficult times. It really does not matter if it takes up a
bit more space at the homestead I would have thought..
JOW
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 23, 2021, 1:10 pm
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:) Thanks for the link about extreme weather and the heating
planet. I am going to write a proper article about the physics.
Nice factoid:
[quote]With the atmosphere capable of holding 7 per cent more
moisture per degree of heating, [/quote]
Applicable to only one place on the vapor pressure graph, which
I will explain. And I have a large quantity of nickel metal
hydride batteries. Never used. D cells. About 50 I think.
They will turn up as I clean my garage. Good to know they may
still be alive. They were going to go into an electric bicycle
but life happened.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 29, 2021, 10:29 am
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Good I have that post to remind me of the pressure graph
project.
But other things. I started a YouTube video where a guy is
talking about the 'social matrix' and how it determines our
opinions and defines what our belief in what the universe is.
HTML https://youtu.be/RAqOMGnJ2MQ
I get into it a bit and like what I am hearing. I am still less
than 10 minutes in but it was time to stop the video and check
this guy (Leo) out. Turns out he is a self help guru with a
huge following. He has a website and I registered for the
forum. I went straight to the environmental section and landed
on mainstream ignorance. Par for the self-help course but why
be snarky.
Leo made this post.
[quote]Mankind has survived far worse with far less technical
capability.
There is no reason at all why mankind cannot simply suck all the
CO2 out of the atomsphere. It's merely a question of the
political will to do so. And as suffering increases political
will will increase.
We can make the temperature whatever we want on this planet.
You should be more worried about an asteroid strike. Now that
would really **** us up.
P.S. We can genetically engineer bananas more delicious than you
can imagine. Don't be so myopic.[/quote]
I responded:
1) Mankind has survived far worse with far less technical
capability. <- This is a false argument. Technical capability
depends on resources and never before has the world had fewer
resources. Technical expression is using tools. Tools work on
resources. The population of the world is in overshoot and
never before has so little planet had to feed so many.
2) Mankind cannot suck CO2 out of the atmosphere. Political will
has nothing to do with it, but science and available resources
has everything to do with it. Science and resources say no. We
are already fracking rock and boiling sand to get oil and after
that all we have left are unicorns.
It is a childish fantasy to think we have the energy resources
and the technical expertise to remove CO2 from the atmosphere
To reduce C02 by 0.01% would require the sequestration of one
billon tons of carbon. At my leisure I will verify the
quantitative accuracy of that statement and figure out how big a
pile of coal that would be the same as. Geoengineering is a
cornucopian fantasy. And as suffering increases political DOES
NOT will increase. Confusion and chaos size the day as
suffering increases. Often starting wars. Your last claim was
nothing more than a wish.
3) This statement has no basis in physical reality whatever.
The evidence that climate change is real is now unquestionable
and we have no viable solutions to address that problem at this
time. As we have a society with a rigid class structure America
does not have the social machinery to address the climate
emergency.
4)You should be more worried about an asteroid strike. Now that
would really **** us up.You should be more worried about an
asteroid strike. Now that would really **** us up. <----------
I am going to side with Epictetus
"That alone is in our power, which is our own work; and in this
class are our opinions, impulses, desires, and aversions. On the
contrary, what is not in our power, are our bodies, possessions,
glory, and power. Any delusion on this point leads to the
greatest errors, misfortunes, and troubles, and to the slavery
of the soul"
Being upset over what you have no power over is the occupation
of a fool. You have no power over an asteroid strike.
PS : The banana equivalent to Covid-19 is spreading to new
countries, forcing the industry to change how the world’s most
widely eaten fruit is farmed and even how it could taste. That
is a BBC headline.
And PS PS : You are welcome to look at my matrix of links by
which you can explore the climate emergency and diffuse your
ignorance. The blinking colored bubbles below the virtual city
header on top are all links. Roll your mouse over the hexagonal
colored bubbles and websites appear in a text box below the
graphic. Don't be offended that you are not yet in the list. I
just found out about you.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 29, 2021, 7:20 pm
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Beware gurus, they have disciples.
Behold: A knuckle dragger.
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[quote]impulse9
Member
128 posts
Posted 7 hours ago
[member=8]K-Dog[/member] have you considered the possibility
that you're infected with a mind virus of global hysteria and
now you're trying to spread this panic to other people? For all
you know, nothing that you've been told is correct. There's
plenty of climate scientists who've been violently pushed away
from the mainstream or outright fired for stating their opinion.
Basically if you don't preach doom and gloom today then your
career is as good as finished. The reasonable expectation is
that the Earth is indeed warming, it's not nearly as bad as it's
portrayed in the media, and we'll get over it one way or the
other. Leo's message is much closer aligned to truth than
yours.[/quote]
Apparently Leo cultivates nihilism. The answer to which Leo no
doubt has the answer to for $19.95.
I will not respond to this pathetic bait.
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Ah hell I did:
[quote]I can't respect your nihilism impulse9. Telling someone
they have a mind virus is insulting. I would prefer Leo answer
for himself. Goodbye.[/quote]
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 29, 2021, 7:31 pm
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And we have a winner:
[quote]Basically if you don't preach doom and gloom today then
your career is as good as finished.[/quote]
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