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Re: Climate Doom
By: Phil Potts Date: July 1, 2021, 3:48 pm
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[quote author=John of Wallan link=topic=14.msg519#msg519
date=1625166879]
Just read a report of somewhere in Canadq getting 49 degrees c.
1221 F.
Is this correct or a typo?
Thats off the charts and very disturbing if accurate..
JOW
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Don't think it's a typo, ABC said 49.5C in Vancouver area.
Apparently people with no home aircon are sitting in their
aircond cars with engine 🏃
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Re: Climate Doom
By: John of Wallan Date: July 1, 2021, 3:49 pm
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Apparently not a typo;
"Temperature of 121 F sets new national record high in Canada"
I have seen 45 degrees c (113f). That was extreme heat. 49c
(221f) is deadly.
JOW
Link:
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Temperature of 121 F sets new national record high in Canada
By Adam Douty, AccuWeather senior meteorologist
Updated Jul. 2, 2021 1:08 AM AEST
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The World Meteorological Organization warned of serious danger
from the extreme temperatures that have gripped the northwestern
U.S.
Grim news emerged in Canada’s western-most province of British
Columbia on Wednesday just one day after one locale in the
region set a new all-time record high for the nation at a
scorching 121 F. The death toll from the unprecedented heat wave
had climbed into the hundreds.
Lisa Lapointe, British Columbia's chief coroner, said 486
reports of "sudden and unexpected" deaths came in between last
Friday and this Wednesday, which is well ahead of the 165 deaths
the province normally sees in five days, The Associated Press
reported.
The news came as the temperature in Lytton, a Canadian town
nestled in the Coast Mountain Range of British Columbia, saw
highs finally dip below the century mark after a record-smashing
stretch. The high topped out at 99 F in Lytton on Wednesday,
according to Environment Canada, as temperatures began to trend
down from the peak of the blistering heat wave.
During the stretch from Sunday, June 27, to Tuesday, June 29,
Lytton broke the all-time Canadian high-temperature record on
three straight days. The stretch of record-setting warmth began
on Sunday when the town reached 116 F (46.6 C). The record was
broken on Monday with a high of 118 F (47.8 C) and again on
Tuesday with an astonishingly high temperature of 121 F (49.6
C).
The previous record-high temperature recorded in Canada was 113
F (45 C) that was set on July, 5 1937, in Midale and Yellow
Grass, Saskatchewan.
Lytton is no stranger to sizzling heat. The town previously
recorded a temperature of 112 F (44.4 C) in 1941, which stood as
the record all-time high temperature for the community until the
most recent heat wave.
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"The thermometer that recorded the record-setting temperatures
likely still has to be checked for accuracy before the new
record can be finalized, though this can take some time,"
AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Alex Sosnowski said.
According to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO),
British Columbia broke 43 all-time records as of June 28.
“The Northwest Territories have recorded their all-time highest
temperatures not just in June, but any point in the year. We are
setting records that have no business in being set so early in
the season,” Armel Castellan a meteorologist with Environment
and Climate Change Canada, said according to the WMO.
“We have had many days of this in a row and each morning we wake
up to higher temperatures. This is what is dangerous and it is
affecting people throughout many days where they are dehydrated,
and we have had many days where the temperature is higher than
the day before,” Castellan said, adding that he has been
sleeping in a tent for relief this week.
“Fewer than 40 percent of homes have air conditioning on the
coast, people are having to go to libraries and shopping malls
to find a couple of hours of air conditioning," he said.
"To highlight how unusually hot it has been for southern British
Columbia, Lytton’s all-time high of 121 F (49.4 C) is higher
than any temperature ever recorded in Las Vegas, Nevada, which
has only ever seen the temperature climb to 117 F (47.2 C),"
said AccWeather Meteorologist Adam Sadvary.
Other all-time high-temperature records were shattered on
Tuesday across the border in the United States. Hermiston,
Oregon, reached 118 F (47.8 C) while Omak, Washington, hit 117 F
(47.2 C).
A specific series of weather events had to occur to allow for
temperatures so extreme across the northwestern U.S. and western
Canada.
"A strong area of high pressure in the upper levels of the
atmosphere has been sitting idle over the Northwest and western
Canada since late last week. This setup created a block around
the jet stream, allowing air to stagnate over the region and
quickly become dangerously hot," explained Sadvary.
The key to why Lytton got so hot is its location within a valley
at the junction of the Fraser and Thompson rivers while
simultaneously being surrounded by these exceptionally tall
mountains.
"Daytime heat absorbed by the mountains was released into the
valley which kept warm air trapped around Lytton," Sadvary said.
"The high pressure overhead also allowed a breeze out of the
south to bring additional warm air directly up the valley."
Webcam image from the airport in Lytton, British Columbia, on
June 30, 2021.
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"There is also ongoing drought across south-central British
Columbia," AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist and Canada weather
expert Brett Anderson pointed out. "Dry ground meant more of the
sun's energy went directly to heating the ground and air instead
of evaporating moisture."
"This combination led to the development of extremely dangerous
heat that is typically only seen in the hottest desert locations
around the globe," Sadvary added.
Shortly after Lytton set Canada's new all-time high temperature
record, the dryness across British Columbia contributed to not
only heat, but also wildfires. Evacuation orders were issued as
fires sparked across the village of Lytton.
The extreme heat also turned deadly and the number of
heat-related fatalities has soared into the hundreds.
Some of the highest numbers of deaths have come from Vancouver,
where temperatures topped out at 90 F (32.2 C) on Saturday and
again on Tuesday. The Vancouver Police Department said the
number of heat-related deaths has depleted front-line resources
and severely delayed response times throughout the city.
As of 11:52 a.m. on Wednesday, the police department had
responded to at least 98 sudden deaths since the heat wave
began. Typically the police department said it responds to three
to four sudden deaths per day.
“Vancouver has never experienced heat like this, and sadly
dozens of people are dying because of it,” says Sergeant Steve
Addison, VPD. “Our officers are stretched thin, but we’re still
doing everything we can to keep people safe.”
Across the Pacific Northwest and in Canada, at least 230 deaths
have been reported, according to CNN.
While the peak of the heat has passed in most locations, it will
remain dangerously hot across the region into the end of the
week.
“In fact, record-challenging temperatures are likely to persist
east of the Cascades and throughout western Canada into the
early days of July,” AccuWeather Meteorologist Renee Duff said.
“High temperatures can still soar close to 20 degrees above
normal each day for many locations.”
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Editor's note: This story previously said Lytton was nestled at
the foot of the Rocky Mountains. The village is situated near
the Coast Mountain Range in western British Columbia.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: John of Wallan Date: July 1, 2021, 3:51 pm
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Fires too.
Link:
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Text:
Canada Lytton: Heatwave record village overwhelmingly burned in
wildfire
Published2 hours ago
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media captionWatch: Lytton, British Columbia residents flee
wildfires
A wildfire has burned 90% of the village that recorded Canada's
highest ever temperature, the local MP says.
Brad Vis said the fire had caused extensive damage to Lytton, in
British Columbia, and to surrounding critical infrastructure.
Lytton's mayor earlier ordered people to evacuate, saying flames
had spread through the village in just 15 minutes.
The village this week recorded the country's highest ever
temperature of 49.6C (121.3F).
Abnormally high temperatures have been recorded in swathes of
North America.
British Columbia, in western Canada, recorded 486 deaths over
five days compared with an average of 165 in normal times.
Visual guide to the heatwave's causes
How to look after yourself in hot weather
Chief Coroner Lisa Lapointe blamed the extreme weather. The
western province had seen only three heat-related deaths over
the past three to five years.
media captionWatch: Canadians say the conditions are
"unbearable"
Many of those who died, Ms Lapointe said, had been living alone
in unventilated homes.
Temperatures have been easing in coastal areas of Canada but
there is not much respite for inland regions. The weather system
is now moving eastwards over the Prairie provinces - Alberta and
Saskatchewan and parts of Manitoba have been placed under
Environment Canada heat warnings.
Climate scientists are still trying to determine to what extent
climate change may have aggravated the heatwave. One scientist,
Zeke Hausfather, said the unprecedented weather was almost
certainly a consequence of global warming.
"Climate is sort of steroids for the weather, it's loading the
dice to make these sort of extreme events be more common," he
told AFP news agency.
What is happening in Lytton?
Residents fled on Wednesday, many without their belongings, as
smoke and flame engulfed the village, which is home to about 250
people and located about 260km (162 miles) north-east of
Vancouver.
"The whole town is on fire," Mayor Jan Polderman told CBC News
after signing the evacuation order at 18:00 on Wednesday (01:00
GMT Thursday).
Fire
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image captionThe speed of the fire in Lytton meant many people
fled without their possessions
In one area, he said, "the fire was a wall about three, four
feet high coming up to the fence line".
Winds of up to 71km/h (44 mph) were pushing the fire north into
the community on Wednesday evening, CBC meteorologist Johanna
Wagstaffe reported. Hot, dry and windy conditions in the area
could mean the fire was moving at 10 or even 20km/h.
In a social media post on Thursday, MP Brad Vis said he would
not be attending Canada Day activities because he was devoting
all his time to the emergency situation.
"There are reports of several injuries. The situation is
ongoing," he wrote.
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Residents were being directed to nearby communities where
reception centres were being set up, while the British Columbia
Wildfire Service was diverting crews and equipment from other
areas to respond to the fire.
Jean McKay, who left the First Nations community of Kanaka Bar,
about 15km from Lytton, with her 22-year-old daughter Deirdre,
told CBC how hard emotionally it had been to leave their home.
"I cried. My daughter cried. She said, 'I don't even know why I
grabbed my key. We might not even have a home.' I said, 'Yeah I
know. As long as we're together we'll survive.' I just pray that
our houses are OK."
"You can't even comprehend it," Lytton evacuee Edith
Loring-Kuhanga told CBC Radio. "Our entire town is gone."
Before the fire, Lytton had recorded the highest temperature
ever seen in Canada on three consecutive days.
How dangerous was the heat elsewhere?
In Vancouver, British Columbia's biggest city, heat is believed
to have been a contributing factor in the deaths of 65 people
since Friday.
The city has opened 25 air-conditioned cooling centres where
people have been resting or working from their laptops.
"I have no air conditioning, only a fan at home - I came here
just to work where it's cool," one woman, who gave her name only
as Lou, told AFP news agency.
Smoke rises from a wildfire at Long Loch and Derrickson Lake in
Central Okanagan, British Columbia, Canada, June 30, 2021
IMAGE COPYRIGHTREUTERS
image captionWildfires were also spotted in Central Okanagan,
British Columbia
In the US state of Oregon, health officials tied more than 60
deaths to the extreme heat while in Washington State, 20 deaths
were attributed to the weather, the Associated Press reports.
Seattle, Portland and other cities broke all-time heat records,
which climbed above 46C in places.
Both Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and US President Joe
Biden warned of the threat of wildfires, with Mr Biden telling
governors of western US states it was as "severe as it's ever
been".
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I've heard from scientists who say that in just a few days
they'll be able to determine just how much human driven warming
has contributed to the searing temperatures seen in British
Columbia.
One interesting piece of evidence is the lack of respite that
night brings - recent temperatures at midnight in BC have been
2C warmer than the normal summer daytime figure.
Researchers say this combination of day and night-time heat is
very dangerous for humans - a study published last year
indicated that these compound events are closely linked to
emissions of greenhouse gases.
Natural variability and local factors such as sea breezes can
raise or limit the impacts of extreme heat. But the bigger
picture is the rising thermometer of global heating is impacting
all events.
"Every heatwave occurring today is made more likely and more
intense by human-induced climate change," Dr Friederike Otto
from the University of Oxford told the BBC.
"Climate change is definitely one of the drivers of the
intensity of this Canadian heatwave - but it is not the only one
and determining how much it impacts it, is a work in progress."
Even if they can't directly attribute this heatwave to climate
change, experts say the fingerprints of global heating are all
over it.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Eddie Date: July 2, 2021, 8:00 am
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Never mind McPherson.....but the BC heat? That’s interesting, to
say the least. I used to think about moving to BC to get away
from the heat.
I might point out that this area, which is usually pretty hot,
like 100-105F this time of year, is experiencing milder, wetter
weather as the west and northwest burns. It was the coolest,
wettest spring I can remember in the last 32 years of living in
central Texas. We are having some hot days now, but I’d still
call it a mild summer.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 2, 2021, 11:32 am
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There is no mystery to me. Difference in temp from pole to
equator used to drive winds in predictable patterns.. A polar
jet stream made winds circulate around the arctic making weather
consistent. Now the stability of circulating jet stream winds
fails and weather becomes chaotic. The temp difference made
things more stable,
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Re: Climate Doom
By: K-Dog Date: July 2, 2021, 11:57 am
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[quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=14.msg524#msg524
date=1625176644]
Sometimes I don't wonder if he didn't figure out that discussing
that doom with the females of the specie worked better than
candy and liquor. Get them depressed a little (the mechanism of
the doom was irrelevant, only the result) and apply the slogan
of A Little Luvin' At The End Of The World!
[/quote]
HTML https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2017/08/26/statement/
To even wonder is madness. But I understand.
I also understand a man needs his knob polished and will spout
any bullshit to get the job done.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Cam Date: July 2, 2021, 11:59 am
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Last week I was busy complaining about the heat. We got up to
40C with humidity on a couple days. There's no ac here so lots
of slow moving and splashing myself with water in the rain
barrels. 'Gee this sucks' I thought, then my brother who lives
in BC sent a screenshot of his weather app to the family group
chat: 44C without humidity and 47 with humidity - ouch!! He
doesn't have ac either, but he is thankfully close to the ocean
so it moderates things a bit. It sure shut me up though. ;D
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Nearings fault Date: July 2, 2021, 1:11 pm
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I remember being in Vancouver during a heat wave. It was
eye-opening how few people had AC. Cooling centres, packed malls
late into the night, sleeping in the basement. Definitely
something to learn there for the adaptation guidebook; heat pump
driven heating and cooling... It would work fabulously year
round in the Pacific north west...
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Re: Climate Doom
By: Eddie Date: July 2, 2021, 1:15 pm
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=14.msg528#msg528 date=1625243531]
There is no mystery to me. Difference in temp from pole to
equator used to drive winds in predictable patterns.. A polar
jet stream made winds circulate around the arctic making weather
consistent. Now the stability of circulating jet stream winds
fails and weather becomes chaotic. The temp difference made
things more stable,
[/quote]
I understand how the jet stream works. But I said what I said
because most climate models show this area turning into a
desert, and that might prove to be quite wrong. The climate map
is not the climate. It’s an educated guess about a future with a
sh*t ton of variables.
Your continuous strident doomer’s bias is getting kinda old. You
could benefit from a little humility. I’m not your enemy. I also
am far from stupid, in case you haven’t seen from my past ten
years of writing.
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Re: Climate Doom
By: John of Wallan Date: July 3, 2021, 5:31 am
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[quote author=Eddie link=topic=14.msg534#msg534 date=1625249717]
[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=14.msg528#msg528 date=1625243531]
There is no mystery to me. Difference in temp from pole to
equator used to drive winds in predictable patterns.. A polar
jet stream made winds circulate around the arctic making weather
consistent. Now the stability of circulating jet stream winds
fails and weather becomes chaotic. The temp difference made
things more stable,
[/quote]
I understand how the jet stream works. But I said what I said
because most climate models show this area turning into a
desert, and that might prove to be quite wrong. The climate map
is not the climate. It’s an educated guess about a future with a
sh*t ton of variables.
Your continuous strident doomer’s bias is getting kinda old. You
could benefit from a little humility. I’m not your enemy. I also
am far from stupid, in case you haven’t seen from my past ten
years of writing.
[/quote]
I dont consider myself stupid either, yet I think we are
screwed.
I read widely.
I can make objective observations.
I can use logic and make my own deductions when presented with
credible data.
We are really really screwed.
Next 10 years is going to be a shitstorm.
I really do sincerely hope I am wrong.
I cant look the other way because I dont like what I see.
JOw
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