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#Post#: 98--------------------------------------------------
DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Blade of Grass
Date: April 24, 2021, 8:31 am
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I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4 times
the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
What a paradox.
#Post#: 100--------------------------------------------------
DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: April 24, 2021, 11:17 am
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[spoiler]
--- Quote from: Blade of Grass link ---
>
> I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
>
> Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4
times the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
> 3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
> I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
> What a paradox.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/spoiler]
A friend and I made some Brownies a few years ago from a strain
I developed named 'Stray Dog'. We foolishly chomped down a
couple of brownies each not thinking about the dosage. Stray
dog is very high in Sativa. It makes your mind roam.
We both fell asleep for 24 hours. It was potent. I don't mean
23 hours. It was a full day.
Your pontification on overdose is amusing.
--- Quote ---
> “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is
around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in
order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume
20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one
marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh
approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to
consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen
minutes to induce a lethal response.“At present it is estimated
that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman
terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana
smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much
marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.
NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams.
A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds
of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal
response.
--- End Quote ---
I don't microdose.
#Post#: 103--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Blade of Grass
Date: April 24, 2021, 11:41 am
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--- Quote from: K-Dog link ---
>
> [spoiler][quote author=Blade of Grass
link=topic=13.msg98#msg98 date=1619271063]
> I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
>
> Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4
times the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
> 3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
> I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
> What a paradox.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/spoiler]
A friend and I made some Brownies a few years ago from a strain
I developed named 'Stray Dog'. We foolishly chomped down a
couple of brownies each not thinking about the dosage. Stray
dog is very high in Sativa. It makes your mind roam.
We both fell asleep for 24 hours. It was potent. I don't mean
23 hours. It was a full day.
Your pontification on overdose is amusing.
--- Quote ---
> “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is
around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in
order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume
20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one
marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh
approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to
consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen
minutes to induce a lethal response.“At present it is estimated
that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman
terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana
smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much
marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.
NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams.
A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds
of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal
response.
--- End Quote ---
I don't microdose.
[/quote]
Your right about my "pontification" misinformation. I heard it
from a friend, and just found out what I got wrong. Here is the
abstract with the stats.
Abstract
Background: On October 17, 2018, the Cannabis Act decriminalized
the recreational use of cannabis in Canada. This study seeks to
determine how legalization of cannabis has impacted emergency
department (ED) visits for acute cannabis intoxication.
Methods: We conducted a retrospective chart review at an
academic ED in Hamilton, Ontario. We assessed all visits with a
cannabis-related ICD-10 discharge code 6 months before and after
legalization (October 17, 2018) to determine cases of acute
cannabis intoxication. The primary outcome was the rate of ED
visits. Secondary outcomes included number of visits distributed
by age, length of stay, co-ingestions, and clinical course in
the emergency department (investigations and treatment).
Results: There was no difference in the overall rate of ED
visits following legalization (2.44 vs. 2.94 visits/1000, p =
0.27). However, we noted a 56% increase in visits among adults
aged 18-29 (p = 0.03). Following legalization, a larger portion
of patients required observation without interventions (25% vs
48%, p < 0.05). Bloodwork and imaging studies decreased (53% vs.
12%, p < 0.05; 29% vs. 2%, p < 0.05); however, treatment with
benzodiazepines increased (24% vs. 51%, p < 0.05).
Conclusions: Legalization was not associated with a change in
the rate of cannabis-related ED visits in our study. More
research is needed regarding changing methods of cannabis
ingestion and trends among specific age groups.
HTML https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33731003/
#Post#: 119--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: April 24, 2021, 5:01 pm
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Certainly there was a massive jump in the strength of hooch in
the 90s with the intro of hydroponic growing here, virtually all
of it done in the state with the lax laws. I'm guessing if there
was a big jump in your local strength 4 yrs ago, that's when
decriminalisation and hydroponic growing started.
#Post#: 120--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: April 24, 2021, 7:19 pm
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[spoiler]
--- Quote from: Blade of Grass link ---
>
> [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=13.msg100#msg100
date=1619281076]
> [quote author=Blade of Grass link=topic=13.msg98#msg98
date=1619271063]
> I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
>
> Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4
times the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
> 3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
> I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
> What a paradox.
>
--- End Quote ---
A friend and I made some Brownies a few years ago from a strain
I developed named 'Stray Dog'. We foolishly chomped down a
couple of brownies each not thinking about the dosage. Stray
dog is very high in Sativa. It makes your mind roam.
We both fell asleep for 24 hours. It was potent. I don't mean
23 hours. It was a full day.
Your pontification on overdose is amusing.
--- Quote ---
> “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is
around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in
order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume
20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one
marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh
approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to
consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen
minutes to induce a lethal response.“At present it is estimated
that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman
terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana
smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much
marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.
NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams.
A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds
of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal
response.
--- End Quote ---
I don't microdose.
[/quote]
Your right about my "pontification" misinformation. I heard it
from a friend, and just found out what I got wrong. Here is the
abstract with the stats.
Abstract
Background: On October 17, 2018, the Cannabis Act decriminalized
the recreational use of cannabis in Canada. This study seeks to
determine how legalization of cannabis has impacted emergency
department (ED) visits for acute cannabis intoxication.
Methods: We conducted a retrospective chart review at an
academic ED in Hamilton, Ontario. We assessed all visits with a
cannabis-related ICD-10 discharge code 6 months before and after
legalization (October 17, 2018) to determine cases of acute
cannabis intoxication. The primary outcome was the rate of ED
visits. Secondary outcomes included number of visits distributed
by age, length of stay, co-ingestions, and clinical course in
the emergency department (investigations and treatment).
Results: There was no difference in the overall rate of ED
visits following legalization (2.44 vs. 2.94 visits/1000, p =
0.27). However, we noted a 56% increase in visits among adults
aged 18-29 (p = 0.03). Following legalization, a larger portion
of patients required observation without interventions (25% vs
48%, p < 0.05). Bloodwork and imaging studies decreased (53% vs.
12%, p < 0.05; 29% vs. 2%, p < 0.05); however, treatment with
benzodiazepines increased (24% vs. 51%, p < 0.05).
Conclusions: Legalization was not associated with a change in
the rate of cannabis-related ED visits in our study. More
research is needed regarding changing methods of cannabis
ingestion and trends among specific age groups.
HTML https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33731003/
[/quote][/spoiler]
As a dedicated stoner I find the whole thing bizarre. I found
out from my first exposure at 16 that the 'devil weed' was
nothing of the kind. It was years before I became a regular
user yet I had already learned early that there were no such
thing as hospital visits from weed. And one hell of a lot of
negative propaganda about it.
Some newbies can get too high but experienced users don't get to
a point of intoxication beyond that which would interfere with
normal functioning without getting a splitting, I want to die,
headache first. Aspirin does wonders in that situation
especially if you avoid aspirin in general as I do. Cannabis
turns out to be a stimulant much like coffee and is perhaps only
twice as strong after your tolerance reaches show dog levels.
But it does take many years of serious dedication before your
tolerance builds up a prizewinning grade. Then your brain is
rewired around any generated mental confusions.
And the good **** has been around for a long time now. Good
seeds came around about twenty years ago. Mail order from
Canada was the way to get them then. About the only good thing
legalization has done is allow for more variety of strain
choices. When it was illegal people only wanted to grow skunk.
I think skunk sucks.
#Post#: 121--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: April 24, 2021, 8:05 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: K-Dog link ---
>
> [spoiler][quote author=Blade of Grass
link=topic=13.msg103#msg103 date=1619282467]
> [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=13.msg100#msg100
date=1619281076]
> [quote author=Blade of Grass link=topic=13.msg98#msg98
date=1619271063]
> I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
>
> Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4
times the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
> 3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
> I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
> What a paradox.
>
--- End Quote ---
A friend and I made some Brownies a few years ago from a strain
I developed named 'Stray Dog'. We foolishly chomped down a
couple of brownies each not thinking about the dosage. Stray
dog is very high in Sativa. It makes your mind roam.
We both fell asleep for 24 hours. It was potent. I don't mean
23 hours. It was a full day.
Your pontification on overdose is amusing.
--- Quote ---
> “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is
around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in
order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume
20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one
marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh
approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to
consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen
minutes to induce a lethal response.“At present it is estimated
that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman
terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana
smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much
marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.
NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams.
A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds
of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal
response.
--- End Quote ---
I don't microdose.
[/quote]
Your right about my "pontification" misinformation. I heard it
from a friend, and just found out what I got wrong. Here is the
abstract with the stats.
Abstract
Background: On October 17, 2018, the Cannabis Act decriminalized
the recreational use of cannabis in Canada. This study seeks to
determine how legalization of cannabis has impacted emergency
department (ED) visits for acute cannabis intoxication.
Methods: We conducted a retrospective chart review at an
academic ED in Hamilton, Ontario. We assessed all visits with a
cannabis-related ICD-10 discharge code 6 months before and after
legalization (October 17, 2018) to determine cases of acute
cannabis intoxication. The primary outcome was the rate of ED
visits. Secondary outcomes included number of visits distributed
by age, length of stay, co-ingestions, and clinical course in
the emergency department (investigations and treatment).
Results: There was no difference in the overall rate of ED
visits following legalization (2.44 vs. 2.94 visits/1000, p =
0.27). However, we noted a 56% increase in visits among adults
aged 18-29 (p = 0.03). Following legalization, a larger portion
of patients required observation without interventions (25% vs
48%, p < 0.05). Bloodwork and imaging studies decreased (53% vs.
12%, p < 0.05; 29% vs. 2%, p < 0.05); however, treatment with
benzodiazepines increased (24% vs. 51%, p < 0.05).
Conclusions: Legalization was not associated with a change in
the rate of cannabis-related ED visits in our study. More
research is needed regarding changing methods of cannabis
ingestion and trends among specific age groups.
HTML https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33731003/
[/quote][/spoiler]
As a dedicated stoner I find the whole thing bizarre. I found
out from my first exposure at 16 that the 'devil weed' was
nothing of the kind. It was years before I became a regular
user yet I had already learned early that there were no such
thing as hospital visits from weed. And one hell of a lot of
negative propaganda about it.
Some newbies can get too high but experienced users don't get to
a point of intoxication beyond that which would interfere with
normal functioning without getting a splitting, I want to die,
headache first. Aspirin does wonders in that situation
especially if you avoid aspirin in general as I do. Cannabis
turns out to be a stimulant much like coffee is and perhaps only
twice as strong after your tolerance reaches show dog levels.
But it does take many years of serious dedication before your
tolerance builds up a prizewinning level. Then your brain is
rewired around any generated mental confusions.
And the good **** has been around for a long time now. Good
seeds came around about twenty years ago. Mail order from
Canada was the way to get them then. About the only good thing
legalization has done is allow for more variety of strains.
When it was illegal people only wanted to grow skunk. I think
skunk sucks.
[/quote]
I beg to differ on the stimulant 'much like coffee'. You
increase HR and strong diuretic like coffee, but synaptic firing
is slowed, that's the high you either enjoy or don't enjoy. As
you said, people who smoke every day for years habituate and
build tolerance so the effect is not noticeable, but they can
still have elevated paranoia. Mike Tyson said to reporters after
his recent comeback exhibition match, that he had been smoking
before the fight. No casual user could have done that as their
reflexes and coordination are slowed.
There are certainly more damaging drugs out there in terms of
impact to health, aggression, hallucination and disinhibition
which can lead to regrettable impulses. James Garner was open
about his use for pain relief from arthritis, others re back
pain long before it was legal anywhere in the west other than
Amsterdam. Now even symptoms of autism are shown to be reduced
by scientific research. Of course it depends on what state you
live in for whether it is legal to grow, buy, or have
prescribed.
#Post#: 122--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: April 24, 2021, 8:13 pm
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--- Quote ---
> but they can still have elevated paranoia.
--- End Quote ---
It is not paranoia when people really do follow you.
#Post#: 124--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: April 24, 2021, 11:17 pm
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[spoiler]
--- Quote from: BuddyJ link ---
>
> Don't have any personal knowledge of drugs, tobacco, alcohol,
whatever. My experience with the aftermath of family and
friend's enthusiastic use of these substances was a bit off
putting though. Having a somewhat obsessive/compulsive
personality in the first place, it never seemed like a good idea
to get involved in any of it.
>
--- End Quote ---
[/spoiler]
--- Quote ---
> Raoul Duke: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of
the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like: I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should
drive. Suddenly, there was a terrible roar all around us, and
the sky was full with what looked like huge bats, all swooping
and screeching and diving around the car, and a voice was
screaming: Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals?
> Dr. Gonzo: Did you say something?
> Raoul Duke: Hm? Never mind. It’s your turn to drive.
> Raoul Duke: No point in mentioning these bats, I thought. Poor
bastard will see them soon enough.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 129--------------------------------------------------
Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Blade of Grass
Date: April 25, 2021, 4:10 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: K-Dog link ---
>
> [spoiler][quote author=Blade of Grass
link=topic=13.msg103#msg103 date=1619282467]
> [quote author=K-Dog link=topic=13.msg100#msg100
date=1619281076]
> [quote author=Blade of Grass link=topic=13.msg98#msg98
date=1619271063]
> I tried almost every street drug way back when. In order :
Alcohol 15-17, Marijuana 17-19,
LSD-Mescaline-Psilocybin-Opium-Meth-Barbiturates 18-19. Quit for
14 years. Alchohol-Tabacoo-Marijuana 34-54. Then Pharmaceuticals
after nervous breakdown...Celexa-Klonopin-Vaping-CBD-Medical
Marijuana 56-present.
>
> Marijuana has changed in potency in the last 4 years to 4
times the strength it was before that, for 1000's of years. They
produce hybrids that range from 97% Indica/
> 3% Sativa to 5% Indica/95% Sativa. 97% Indica will knock you
out. 95% Sativa will get you totally WIRED. I have to micro dose
it even with a 50/50 hybrid. (1/8th tsp)
> I find it absolutely amazing the varying effects the different
strains make. There are so many Cannabinoid receptors in our
bodies, and each strain affects different ones at different
strengths. There are aprox 700 different strains. "Marijuana
overdose" has jumped 100% in 2 years. (ER visits) It's legality
is sweeping the world which is going to have all kinds of
consequences. Issues of health, business/economy, world view,
and crime to name a few. The potential of overdose is becoming a
reality now and many remedies that Doctors use to help people
quit an addition to it often include Benzodiazepines. These
drugs are habit forming, and cause dependency and dangerous
withdrawal symptoms.
> What a paradox.
>
--- End Quote ---
A friend and I made some Brownies a few years ago from a strain
I developed named 'Stray Dog'. We foolishly chomped down a
couple of brownies each not thinking about the dosage. Stray
dog is very high in Sativa. It makes your mind roam.
We both fell asleep for 24 hours. It was potent. I don't mean
23 hours. It was a full day.
Your pontification on overdose is amusing.
--- Quote ---
> “At present it is estimated that marijuana’s LD-50 is
around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in
order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume
20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in one
marijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh
approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to
consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen
minutes to induce a lethal response.“At present it is estimated
that marijuana’s LD-50 is around1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman
terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana
smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much
marijuana as is contained in one marijuana cigarette.
NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams.
A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds
of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal
response.
--- End Quote ---
I don't microdose.
[/quote]
Your right about my "pontification" misinformation. I heard it
from a friend, and just found out what I got wrong. Here is the
abstract with the stats.
Abstract
Background: On October 17, 2018, the Cannabis Act decriminalized
the recreational use of cannabis in Canada. This study seeks to
determine how legalization of cannabis has impacted emergency
department (ED) visits for acute cannabis intoxication.
Methods: We conducted a retrospective chart review at an
academic ED in Hamilton, Ontario. We assessed all visits with a
cannabis-related ICD-10 discharge code 6 months before and after
legalization (October 17, 2018) to determine cases of acute
cannabis intoxication. The primary outcome was the rate of ED
visits. Secondary outcomes included number of visits distributed
by age, length of stay, co-ingestions, and clinical course in
the emergency department (investigations and treatment).
Results: There was no difference in the overall rate of ED
visits following legalization (2.44 vs. 2.94 visits/1000, p =
0.27). However, we noted a 56% increase in visits among adults
aged 18-29 (p = 0.03). Following legalization, a larger portion
of patients required observation without interventions (25% vs
48%, p < 0.05). Bloodwork and imaging studies decreased (53% vs.
12%, p < 0.05; 29% vs. 2%, p < 0.05); however, treatment with
benzodiazepines increased (24% vs. 51%, p < 0.05).
Conclusions: Legalization was not associated with a change in
the rate of cannabis-related ED visits in our study. More
research is needed regarding changing methods of cannabis
ingestion and trends among specific age groups.
HTML https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33731003/
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As a dedicated stoner I find the whole thing bizarre. I found
out from my first exposure at 16 that the 'devil weed' was
nothing of the kind. It was years before I became a regular
user yet I had already learned early that there were no such
thing as hospital visits from weed. And one hell of a lot of
negative propaganda about it.
Some newbies can get too high but experienced users don't get to
a point of intoxication beyond that which would interfere with
normal functioning without getting a splitting, I want to die,
headache first. Aspirin does wonders in that situation
especially if you avoid aspirin in general as I do. Cannabis
turns out to be a stimulant much like coffee and is perhaps only
twice as strong after your tolerance reaches show dog levels.
But it does take many years of serious dedication before your
tolerance builds up a prizewinning grade. Then your brain is
rewired around any generated mental confusions.
And the good **** has been around for a long time now. Good
seeds came around about twenty years ago. Mail order from
Canada was the way to get them then. About the only good thing
legalization has done is allow for more variety of strain
choices. When it was illegal people only wanted to grow skunk.
I think skunk sucks.
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What strains do you like? I am using Galeto, Lemon Haze, and
Sudae Driver. The choices here are slim compared to like where
you are or Colorado
The ER visit misunderstanding was bewildering to me also. I have
never "flipped out" with weed. Had some trouble with LSD once
though...took too much, put me right up there in the "music of
the spheres". :)
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Re: DRUGS including Tobacco and Alcohol
DIR By: Blade of Grass
Date: April 25, 2021, 4:26 am
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> [spoiler][quote author=BuddyJ link=topic=13.msg123#msg123
date=1619323413]
> Don't have any personal knowledge of drugs, tobacco, alcohol,
whatever. My experience with the aftermath of family and
friend's enthusiastic use of these substances was a bit off
putting though. Having a somewhat obsessive/compulsive
personality in the first place, it never seemed like a good idea
to get involved in any of it.
>
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> Raoul Duke: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of
the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like: I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should
drive. Suddenly, there was a terrible roar all around us, and
the sky was full with what looked like huge bats, all swooping
and screeching and diving around the car, and a voice was
screaming: Holy Jesus. What are these goddamn animals?
> Dr. Gonzo: Did you say something?
> Raoul Duke: Hm? Never mind. It’s your turn to drive.
> Raoul Duke: No point in mentioning these bats, I thought. Poor
bastard will see them soon enough.
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LOL...I remember the first time I took LSD. 18 years old,
walking on the sidewalk and thinking I was feeling it...but 30
minutes later everything started getting odd. Everything lit up
like an animated Pixel movie. I was so naive I wondered into
someones yard and picked some flowers and gazed at them and went
into bliss and started crying. I felt at ONE with the whole
universe. Ha! Then I walked right through a red light holding
the flowers and crying, a driver honked at me and gave me the
thumbs up. :)
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