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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Digwe Must Date: June 8, 2022, 4:14 pm
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Sorry everything below is bold faced - I can't get it to turn
off - just another of my techno whiz moments.
Does Johnny do permaculture?/
Probably not - but who givesafuck?
Albert Bates does permaculture. He has helped improve the
lives of numerous poor Africans and Latin Americans. He
annually plants enough trees to more than cover his own carbon
footprint and is a biochar pioneer. He walks his talk. Some
years ago RE trashed Bates as being an unrealistic dreamer
because Albert wrote a post about the potential for sail
transport.
These days - he is even older than me - Bates is still at it,
and doing something even more valuable. Something to save the
lives of innocent victims of the war machine.
This is from his website:
[b]Towns, villages and cities in the Ukraine are being bombed
every day. As refugees pour out into the countryside,
​they must rest by day so they can travel by night.
Ecovillages and permaculture farms have organized something like
an underground railroad to shelter families fleeing the cities,
either on a long-term basis or temporarily, as people wait for
the best moments to cross the border to a safer place, or to
return to their homes if that becomes possible. So far there are
62 sites in Ukraine and 265 around the region. They are calling
their project “The Green Road.”
The Green Road also wants to address the ongoing food crisis at
the local level by helping people grow their own food, and they
are raising money to acquire farm machinery, seed, and to erect
greenhouses. The opportunity, however, is larger than that. The
majority of the migrants are children. This will be the first
experience in ecovillage living for most. They will directly
experience its wonders, skills, and safety. They may never want
to go back. Those that do will carry the seeds within them of
the better world they glimpsed through the eyes of a child.
Those wishing to make a tax-deductible gift can do so through
Global Village Institute by going to
HTML http://PayPal.me/greenroad2022
or by directing donations to
greenroad@thefarm.org.
There is more info on the Global Village Institute website at
HTML https://www.gvix.org/greenroad
Albert is a real person. Johnny Depp is not. Albert is my
hero. Johnny Depp is not. When I grow up I want to be like
Albert Bates.
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Phil Potts Date: June 8, 2022, 8:22 pm
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[quote author=Digwe Must link=topic=112.msg3533#msg3533
date=1654717740]
"Everybody is a SPECTATOR WATCHING THE WORLD GO BY." - KDog
Not everybody. I'm old and hurt but will be working on a better
way until the day I die. By the way, Mollison was not a fool.
He did very important work in many countries improving the
quality of life for the many people he worked with. If he was a
fool for that, we need more fools.
I will admit it would be much easier to be terminally cynical.
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I we've been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late"
-Bobby Dylan
[/quote]
Jimi Hendrix, no?
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: RE Date: June 8, 2022, 10:01 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=112.msg3535#msg3535
date=1654737761]
[quote author=Digwe Must link=topic=112.msg3533#msg3533
date=1654717740]
"Everybody is a SPECTATOR WATCHING THE WORLD GO BY." - KDog
Not everybody. I'm old and hurt but will be working on a better
way until the day I die. By the way, Mollison was not a fool.
He did very important work in many countries improving the
quality of life for the many people he worked with. If he was a
fool for that, we need more fools.
I will admit it would be much easier to be terminally cynical.
"There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I we've been through that and this is not our fate.
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late"
-Bobby Dylan
[/quote]
Jimi Hendrix, no?
[/quote]
Song is "All Along the Watchtower". Hendrix covered it, but
Dylan wrote it.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7zQE2NpkZU
RE
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: John of Wallan Date: June 9, 2022, 3:56 am
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Dylan wrote it.
Hendrix perfected it.
This is a really poor version compared to any Hendrix version I
have seen. Dylan sucks as a singer.
Even U2 had a better version then this.
JOW
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Phil Potts Date: June 9, 2022, 10:31 am
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[quote author=RE link=topic=112.msg3536#msg3536 date=1654743699]
Song is "All Along the Watchtower". Hendrix covered it, but
Dylan wrote it.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7zQE2NpkZU
RE
[/quote]
The lyric is the same, but the music is so different that you
couldn't claim copyright infringement
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Digwe Must Date: June 9, 2022, 1:21 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=112.msg3546#msg3546
date=1654788704]
[quote author=RE link=topic=112.msg3536#msg3536 date=1654743699]
Song is "All Along the Watchtower". Hendrix covered it, but
Dylan wrote it.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7zQE2NpkZU
The lyric is the same, but the music is so different that you
couldn't claim copyright infringement
[/quote]
RE
[/quote]
Dylan said on at least two occasions that Hendrix had taken the
song and made it his own. One example:
In 1995, Dylan described his reaction to hearing Hendrix's
version: "It overwhelmed me, really. He had such talent, he
could find things inside a song and vigorously develop them. He
found things that other people wouldn't think of finding in
there. He probably improved upon it by the spaces he was using."
In my aging and biased opinion, it is the best cover of a Dylan
tune - or any damn tune - out there. I play it all the time -
and the dogs howl.
I've seen them both live and I even worked a Hendrix concert in
Providence RI about a million years ago. A buddy of mine was
friends with Hendrix's road manager and we got in for agreeing
to help load sound equipment after the show. This was in a
hockey arena with the stage set up where one goal would be. A
quarter of the place was behind the stage and empty. Our job
during the show was to sit on one end of the stage and make sure
nobody snuck back there into the equipment. Through the show I
wound up sitting about ten feet from where Hendrix was standing.
High point.
Dylan is an all time great song writer. As far as his voice
goes - people love it or hate it - it's not why he won a Nobel.
He is not a great live performer. In his very early career he
was highly political, deeply involved in the Civil Rights and
anti-war movements as was the entire folk music scene on the
east coast at the time. Phil Ochs, Baez, Pete Seeger, and more
all tried to carry on Woody's legacy. But then things changed.
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: RE Date: June 9, 2022, 1:57 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=112.msg3546#msg3546
date=1654788704]
[quote author=RE link=topic=112.msg3536#msg3536 date=1654743699]
Song is "All Along the Watchtower". Hendrix covered it, but
Dylan wrote it.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7zQE2NpkZU
RE
[/quote]
The lyric is the same, but the music is so different that you
couldn't claim copyright infringement
[/quote]
There is no copyright infringement, because Dylan got full
writing credit for the Hendrix version, along with his share of
the Royalties. Considering how many times it has been played on
Classic Rock stations for the last 50 years, that is a tidy sum
of money. Hendrix died B4 he got much of it of course, but
Dylan did well.. Hendrix does have a real nice Tomb in a
Seattle Cemetery tho. K-Dog and I visited it a few years back
when I was constrructing my own (somewhat smaller lol)
tombstone.
RE
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R.I.P. Jimmy
By: K-Dog Date: June 9, 2022, 6:09 pm
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I know of a guy into Jimmy who once dropped by his old house on
Lake WA Blvd. (we drove by it RE) when Jimmy's father still
lived there. They talked for hours.
[img
width=700]
HTML https://img.atlasobscura.com/2MkcRloSmcxrvhECWU6I1sBSM2k3frCStk_XUU2HYUk/rt:fit/w:1200/q:81/sm:1/scp:1/ar:1/aHR0cHM6Ly9hdGxh/cy1kZXYuczMuYW1h/em9uYXdzLmNvbS91/cGxvYWRzL3BsYWNl/X2ltYWdlcy9lNjU3/OWMyZmJmNjI3MGZm/MGRfNzQxNzY3MTg1/MF84ZDQ0ODlmZDEw/X2suanBn.jpg[/img]
Six miles from the Doghouse.
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Phil Potts Date: June 9, 2022, 8:19 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=112.msg3548#msg3548 date=1654801021]
[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=112.msg3546#msg3546
date=1654788704]
[quote author=RE link=topic=112.msg3536#msg3536 date=1654743699]
Song is "All Along the Watchtower". Hendrix covered it, but
Dylan wrote it.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7zQE2NpkZU
RE
[/quote]
The lyric is the same, but the music is so different that you
couldn't claim copyright infringement
[/quote]
There is no copyright infringement, because Dylan got full
writing credit for the Hendrix version, along with his share of
the Royalties. Considering how many times it has been played on
Classic Rock stations for the last 50 years, that is a tidy sum
of money. Hendrix died B4 he got much of it of course, but
Dylan did well.. Hendrix does have a real nice Tomb in a
Seattle Cemetery tho. K-Dog and I visited it a few years back
when I was constrructing my own (somewhat smaller lol)
tombstone.
RE
[/quote]
Of course, but if there was no credit given, I can't see how the
music notes/bars are the same.
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Re: Food Insecurity
By: Digwe Must Date: June 10, 2022, 12:21 pm
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I am working on a column for Permaculture Design magazine. I
have to thank K-Dog for giving me the theme for my contribution
to this edition.
In an earlier post I mentioned Albert Bates and the Green Road
initiative. While doing a little research I ran across this
piece on the Resilience.org website.
HTML https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-05-27/ukraine-the-green-road-of-ecovillages-communities-that-protect/
"Ed. note: This article first appeared on ARC2020.eu. ARC2020 is
a platform for agri-food and rural actors working towards better
food, farming, and rural policies for Europe.
In times of tragedy and disaster, people can come together and
do extraordinary things. And so it is in and around Ukraine,
where an amazing mutual aid network called the Green Road has
emerged – organically, rapidly, and with impact. The Green Road
has seen the global and the local Ukrainian ecovillage and
permaculture communities involved in ongoing emergency support
for people fleeing the war. Anastasiya Volkova of Permaculture
in Ukraine has more.
How it all began
On February 24, Russia attacked Ukraine. People in cities woke
up from explosions. Hundreds of thousands of them immediately
took their cars and fled with their families to a safer place.
Some of them headed at once to the border, while others
preferred to go to the countryside.
Before the war two Ukrainian NGOs already had their networks:
‘Global Ecovillage Network Ukraine’ developed a network of
ecovillages and ‘Permaculture in Ukraine’ a network of
permaculture centres.
Already on the second day of the war the heads of both
organisations had a call and decided to mobilise their members
to host people from the cities. A first list of contacts
appeared and very quickly a first map that was supposed to help
people to find a location in their region. Then there was a call
with the board of ‘Global Ecovillage Network Europe’ who
proposed to open the doors of European communities to the
refugees. So, the map began to grow very quickly: ecovillages,
ecological farms, individuals living in the countryside ready to
host for free...."
So, is this just some aging hippies playing a game that does not
matter to real people? Are these folks who are taking people
in, all fools?
A drop in the bucket you say. True - but enough drops fill the
bucket.
When the feces meets the air circulating machine who is coming
through for the women and kids with nothing left? Just fools?
Which celebrity is taking homeless refugees into their home? Is
it just the fools who make an effort?
I'm sure you have all read or heard the starfish story - but
it's worth repeating.
The little boy goes down to the beach following a big, violent
storm. On the beach among the driftwood and trash are many,
many starfish stranded on the rocks and sand. So, the boy begins
picking up the starfish, one by one, and throwing them back into
the sea. Before long an old man comes along. He watches the
boy for a moment and then snorts derisively, "There must be a
million starfish on this beach. You're just one kid. You're
being foolish. You can't make a difference!"
The kid pauses for a second, looks at the old man and then picks
up another starfish and throws it into the ocean. "Well I made
a difference to that one." and he keeps throwing the starfish.
So, for me, the unanswered question in this story is - after the
kid's response what does the old man do? Walk on? Try to
educate the kid about how he can't do enough to count? Or does
he pause for a few moments and help the kid throw the starfish
back?
My choice is obvious. I guess yours is too.
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