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#Post#: 2944--------------------------------------------------
The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 25, 2022, 12:14 pm
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The extent and full ramification of the awful truth of European
dependency on Russian fossil fuels is so disturbingly on display
here that I just want to teleport in those newsroom and slap
those clueless morons in the back of the head and lecture them
on grade school physics ...
links directly to the segment in question:
HTML https://youtu.be/jfK_wkWgUl4?t=1195
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[s]Wasn't there a "Insert Embed" button before ?
Can someone kindly explain the procedure if it's still possible
... Thanks .[/s]
Wow Automatic !! Wonderful !!!
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 25, 2022, 12:41 pm
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... and again ...
HTML https://youtu.be/1Ns52hzn2uU?t=86
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The incomprehension this must elicit in Ukrainians' ...
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: RE Date: February 25, 2022, 1:51 pm
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The MSM studiously ignores the energy aspect. It's all about
"Putin's Aggression". ::)
RE
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: Phil Potts Date: February 25, 2022, 2:05 pm
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[quote author=UnhingedBecauseLucid
link=topic=103.msg2945#msg2945 date=1645814493]
... and again ...
HTML https://youtu.be/1Ns52hzn2uU?t=86
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The incomprehension this must elicit in Ukrainians' ...
[/quote]
Along the lines 'we had you a colour revolution and put hunter
on the board of burisma, used your training and weaponry to
settle the score for the holodomer under Stalin. Now why aren't
you declaring war on Russia and turning Moscow and DC
radioactive?'
Notice the script for the questions and answers on swift system
do not include the obvious about alternative system they have
set up and bilateral trade agreements bypassing the petrodollar.
The upside is we have something/someone else to blame for the
pain at the pump and the checkout now, nothing to do with the
fukton of debt run up over the last two years
#Post#: 2949--------------------------------------------------
Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 25, 2022, 2:52 pm
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[quote author=Phil Potts link=topic=103.msg2948#msg2948
date=1645819513]
[quote author=UnhingedBecauseLucid
link=topic=103.msg2945#msg2945 date=1645814493]
... and again ...
HTML https://youtu.be/1Ns52hzn2uU?t=86
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The incomprehension this must elicit in Ukrainians' ...
[/quote]
Along the lines 'we had you a colour revolution and put hunter
on the board of burisma, used your training and weaponry to
settle the score for the holodomer under Stalin. Now why aren't
you declaring war on Russia and turning Moscow and DC
radioactive?'
Notice the script for the questions and answers on swift system
do not include the obvious about alternative system they have
set up and bilateral trade agreements bypassing the petrodollar.
The upside is we have something/someone else to blame for the
pain at the pump and the checkout now, nothing to do with the
fukton of debt run up over the last two years
[/quote]
Quite so.
The SWIFT system even if circumventable still amount to a quasi
war declaration ... and the debilitating effect on Europe is
something they obviously don't seem able to withstand at the
moment.
It's a clusterfuck allright ...
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 25, 2022, 2:57 pm
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[quote author=RE link=topic=103.msg2946#msg2946 date=1645818686]
The MSM studiously ignores the energy aspect. It's all about
"Putin's Aggression". ::)
RE
[/quote]
Which is why democracies don't really exist.
There is no 'informed public' to speak of ... as of yet.
Maybe this crash course will turn out to be informative enough
...
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: K-Dog Date: February 27, 2022, 12:06 am
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Angry Bear
The American Petroleum Institute, considering the Ukraine
situation, advocates opening federal lands for oil production.
Issue drilling permits, and anything resembling a regulation be
round filed. Drill offshore and build pipelines like there is no
tomorrow.
Who could have known the Hunter Biden laptop and the 2014 color
revolution would lead to all this? The good thing is the
American embarrassments mute saber-rattling against Putin's
occupation of Ukraine. Putin acts to keep nuclear missiles out
of the former breadbasket of the Soviet Union, and the
breadbasket with its rich soils returns to Russia. It all makes
sense to Russia, and I hope death stops soon.
* Good to see you Lucid!
Yesterday I had the misfortune to listen to a radio broadcast of
NPR and American anti-Russian propaganda. I was driving. I
managed to push the 'seek' button on my radio fast enough to
find music and avoid throwing up. The thought came to me that a
person would have to be stupid and totally out to lunch to take
anything National Petroleum Radio was saying seriously, but it
does not matter. I doubt most Americans take NPR propaganda
seriously anyway. Most Americans who have any mental horsepower
know that NPR went over to the dark side decades ago.
Not that it matters if anybody knows how NPR became the
mouthpiece for American propaganda, or if the propaganda is true
or false. The point of NPR is to cultivated compliance, and
belief does not matter. What matters is people are passive,
taking no action to prevent lies from being taken as truth. NPR
cultivates a passive ideology of apathy, and apathy is
compliance.
The pandemic brought uncomfortable truths to light. Common
misunderstandings about freedom showed most people 'concerned'
about global heating actually are not concerned. Disaffected
people who don't understand issues in depth affect faux outrage.
I make the mistake of thinking other people think as I do. Now
more uncomfortable truths come to light, revealed by the Ukraine
occupation. The number of people revealing themselves to possess
shallow understandings grows.
Call it whatever 'ism' you will. Money rules the planet, and
rich people have money. Most people are poor. Police and
military keep the rich rich and the poor poor. That is the
existing arrangement. Force keeps existing arrangements the way
they are. Whatever they are. Division between rich and poor is
maintained. That is the status quo which power maintains.
Bullets are an effective and overt expression of power. Bullets
or police with crowd control zip-tie handcuffs and tear gas.
These are examples of overt control, and overt control maintains
existing arrangements.
But the existing arrangement needs more control to be free of
revolution. Overt control is not enough. Overt control can be
challenged, so money controls what people see, read, and hear.
Money controls public perception. Jeff Bezos owns the Washington
Post, and Jeff is only one example of wealth owning power. Money
owns mass media, defining perception of the present moment.
Schools, religion, and other institutions provide ideology, a
lazy and canned perception ready for all moments. Money controls
what is taught, and to whom it is taught. Money brainwashes
everyone. And most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map.
Nowhere in America is there any mention of Ukrainian
self-determination or what is good for the Ukrainian people.
Money does not want you to know anything about Ukrainians.
Armed conflict in the baby twins of Donetsk and Lugansk in the
Donbass region of eastern Ukraine, started in 2014. The Donbass
conflict has since killed over 14,000 people. If Putin puts an
end to the Donbass conflict, Russia is not an invader. Russia
becomes a peacemaker.
Putin's demands were to have The Crimea recognized as Russian,
which it is. Demilitarize the Ukraine, declare it neutral,
becoming a Black Sea Switzerland. Abandon plans to join NATO.
Russia wants security. Who does not?
Americans don't consider the Russian perspective. There is no
mention in America of the Ukrainian Civil War. In America, the
breakaway republics of Donetsk and Lugansk are unknown.
Instead, Putin is a demon and condemned in any way possible.
Hating on Russia is a popular and socially acceptable American
pastime. Internet psychologists and others accuse Putin of being
mentally ill. I find it all disgusting. Vague claims of Putin
being a bad person pass as facts. Actual facts go missing.
I am not an apologist for Putin. I don't know much more about
Putin than most Americans do, which is nothing. But unlike
everyone else, I admit my ignorance. I know a little more than
nothing, and that is all.
According to Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Putin stole his Super
Bowl ring. I don't care. If death in the Donbass ends and the
Ukrainian, Russian, Donetsk, and Lugansk peoples can live in
peace, I won't be hating on Putin no matter how popular hating
on Putin becomes. Peace is worth a $20,000 Superbowl ring.
Hating on Putin is disgustingly popular. Facts about the Ukraine
situation are not optional, in America facts about the Ukraine
situation are unknown and eschewed. In America, actual knowledge
of Russia and its relationship to the Ukraine is next to zero.
Actual facts don't support the American narrative. In America,
every means is employed to preserve ignorance.
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Re: The embarrassingly awful ignorance of Europe's dependency
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 27, 2022, 11:04 am
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[quote author=K-Dog link=topic=103.msg2958#msg2958
date=1645941965]
Angry Bear
The American Petroleum Institute, considering the Ukraine
situation, advocates opening federal lands for oil production.
Issue drilling permits, and anything resembling a regulation be
round filed. Drill offshore and build pipelines like there is no
tomorrow.
Who could have known the Hunter Biden laptop and the 2014 color
revolution would lead to all this? The good thing is the
American embarrassments mute saber-rattling against Putin's
occupation of Ukraine. Putin acts to keep nuclear missiles out
of the former breadbasket of the Soviet Union, and the
breadbasket with its rich soils returns to Russia. It all makes
sense to Russia, and I hope death stops soon.
* Good to see you Lucid!
Yesterday I had the misfortune to listen to a radio broadcast of
NPR and American anti-Russian propaganda. I was driving. I
managed to push the 'seek' button on my radio fast enough to
find music and avoid throwing up. The thought came to me that a
person would have to be stupid and totally out to lunch to take
anything National Petroleum Radio was saying seriously, but it
does not matter. I doubt most Americans take NPR propaganda
seriously anyway. Most Americans who have any mental horsepower
know that NPR went over to the dark side decades ago.
Not that it matters if anybody knows how NPR became the
mouthpiece for American propaganda, or if the propaganda is true
or false. The point of NPR is to cultivated compliance, and
belief does not matter. What matters is people are passive,
taking no action to prevent lies from being taken as truth. NPR
cultivates a passive ideology of apathy, and apathy is
compliance.
The pandemic brought uncomfortable truths to light. Common
misunderstandings about freedom showed most people 'concerned'
about global heating actually are not concerned. Disaffected
people who don't understand issues in depth affect faux outrage.
I make the mistake of thinking other people think as I do. Now
more uncomfortable truths come to light, revealed by the Ukraine
occupation. The number of people revealing themselves to possess
shallow understandings grows.
Call it whatever 'ism' you will. Money rules the planet, and
rich people have money. Most people are poor. Police and
military keep the rich rich and the poor poor. That is the
existing arrangement. Force keeps existing arrangements the way
they are. Whatever they are. Division between rich and poor is
maintained. That is the status quo which power maintains.
Bullets are an effective and overt expression of power. Bullets
or police with crowd control zip-tie handcuffs and tear gas.
These are examples of overt control, and overt control maintains
existing arrangements.
But the existing arrangement needs more control to be free of
revolution. Overt control is not enough. Overt control can be
challenged, so money controls what people see, read, and hear.
Money controls public perception. Jeff Bezos owns the Washington
Post, and Jeff is only one example of wealth owning power. Money
owns mass media, defining perception of the present moment.
Schools, religion, and other institutions provide ideology, a
lazy and canned perception ready for all moments. Money controls
what is taught, and to whom it is taught. Money brainwashes
everyone. And most Americans can't find Ukraine on a map.
Nowhere in America is there any mention of Ukrainian
self-determination or what is good for the Ukrainian people.
Money does not want you to know anything about Ukrainians.
Armed conflict in the baby twins of Donetsk and Lugansk in the
Donbass region of eastern Ukraine, started in 2014. The Donbass
conflict has since killed over 14,000 people. If Putin puts an
end to the Donbass conflict, Russia is not an invader. Russia
becomes a peacemaker.
Putin's demands were to have The Crimea recognized as Russian,
which it is. Demilitarize the Ukraine, declare it neutral,
becoming a Black Sea Switzerland. Abandon plans to join NATO.
Russia wants security. Who does not?
Americans don't consider the Russian perspective. There is no
mention in America of the Ukrainian Civil War. In America, the
breakaway republics of Donetsk and Lugansk are unknown.
Instead, Putin is a demon and condemned in any way possible.
Hating on Russia is a popular and socially acceptable American
pastime. Internet psychologists and others accuse Putin of being
mentally ill. I find it all disgusting. Vague claims of Putin
being a bad person pass as facts. Actual facts go missing.
I am not an apologist for Putin. I don't know much more about
Putin than most Americans do, which is nothing. But unlike
everyone else, I admit my ignorance. I know a little more than
nothing, and that is all.
According to Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Putin stole his Super
Bowl ring. I don't care. If death in the Donbass ends and the
Ukrainian, Russian, Donetsk, and Lugansk peoples can live in
peace, I won't be hating on Putin no matter how popular hating
on Putin becomes. Peace is worth a $20,000 Superbowl ring.
Hating on Putin is disgustingly popular. Facts about the Ukraine
situation are not optional, in America facts about the Ukraine
situation are unknown and eschewed. In America, actual knowledge
of Russia and its relationship to the Ukraine is next to zero.
Actual facts don't support the American narrative. In America,
every means is employed to preserve ignorance.
[/quote]
* Good to see you too K-Dog
--------------------
Unfortunately, I have to completely disagree with you on this
one...
Russia, nowadays, strong from their fossil fuel production, from
the temporary benefits of "green revolution" type agriculture
that relegates soil to mere nutrient sponge, and finally, strong
from the cheap goods and cheap tech that China provided since
its economic explosion; filling the gap in purchasing power and
in the technology tree needed to achieve relative prosperity and
relative self sufficiency; doesn't need Ukraine as bread basket
per se, as Russia itself is now the top wheat producer, but it
certainly remains a very nice and very substantial addition of
better quality soil in more a permissive climate I'd imagine.
The problem is probably that the utterly Russian energy
dependent Ukraine, getting rid of its necessarily corrupt
Russian cleptocrat's henchman of a leader, made the move,
probably a little too forcefully, to pivot commercially to sell
it's output to western interests (and I supose in time, to turn
to there corporate juggernauts for imports).
Of course, feeling the lingering Orwellian vibe still present in
Russia, despite the country's accession to modernity and the
internet ...asoasf ... Ukraine's choice marked a strong
preference for removable leadership but did not appreciate well
enough how displeased the stunted former empire would be at
losing cheap ag output, cheap minerals in somewhat less hostile
climate than the tundra and siberia (!), economic rents and
cheap labor 'synergy' from a cultural sibling.
NATO was never going to be a threat because of MAD.
I think it's a classic vulgar display of power brought about by
strategic stupidity (on both sides), itself, brought about by
ignorant leaders democracy tends to bring forth most of the
time.
Probably compounded European blunders.
CERTAINLY compounded by the reckless invasion of Iraq and
Afghanistan and US posturing ...
CERTAINLY compounded by the surreal election of a retard
followed by the incomprehensible selection of a senile train
wreck as party candidate to "repair the damage".
CERTAINLY compounded by peak everything ...and democracies'
studious ignorance of it, to borough RE's phrasing ...
Nevertheless, there is no way to rationally downplay Putin's and
his inner circle's true leanings.
The poisonings, the Chechen war, the **** Riot music\activist
band jailing, ... and just right now (!)... the overtly
Orwellian arrest of anti war protesters ...
It ain't exactly subtle.
PUTIN IS A F***ING THUG.
This level of obtuse backwardness and uncalled for,
incommensurate violence is just reckless.
The waste this is going to generate by means of destruction,
armament production, supply chain dislocations ...etc, is just
plain f***ng counterproductive at this point.
The Russian galley slaves should hold their oars still and get
rid of unenlightened leadership once and for all.
#Post#: 2977--------------------------------------------------
Look at their faces ...
By: UnhingedBecauseLucid Date: February 28, 2022, 7:13 pm
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Look at the two ladies' faces.
What happened to the ever cheerfully energetic tone of Haslinda
Amin (pink) ?
What happened to the ever present soft smile of Francine Laqua
(blonde) ?
Why do I feel like a chill went down their spine ?
Watch and listen carefully ...
HTML https://youtu.be/2R-xriO_COs
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