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#Post#: 157--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
DIR By: RE
Date: April 28, 2021, 1:17 am
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I think it is unlikely that a 3rd Party will have much success
in the next POTUS election cycle. Also, until we have a
systemic collapse of the economic system, I see political
upheaval as unlikely as well. As long as they keep handing out
stimulus money and rent & mortgage payment moratoriums and the
money still works to buy food at the superstore and gas at the
pump, it will remain mostly BAU.
RE
#Post#: 158--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
DIR By: K-Dog
Date: April 28, 2021, 3:33 pm
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> I think it is unlikely that a 3rd Party will have much success
in the next POTUS election cycle. Also, until we have a
systemic collapse of the economic system, I see political
upheaval as unlikely as well. As long as they keep handing out
stimulus money and rent & mortgage payment moratoriums and the
money still works to buy food at the superstore and gas at the
pump, it will remain mostly BAU.
>
> RE
>
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I agree. The Merican public remains too ignorant than to want a
better way. The 'third party' is another Gregorian chant just
like 'get rid of the Electoral College. I have been hearing
that singsong for fifty years. Another movement that will
continue to continually masturbate the mind of people with
better things to do. I do have a suggestion, read on. For as
long as we have left. Third party thought masterbate the mind.
Nothing will happen. Until reality kicks people hard enough
they will grab and scream vainly trying to hold on to BAU as
long as they can. They won't want to change a thing. Until it
is too late.
Along our descent into oblivion some people will type in lament.
When people can't hold on any longer. It will be too late.
We need a revolution.
#Post#: 162--------------------------------------------------
Re: BOG for president
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: April 28, 2021, 11:34 pm
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--- Quote from: K-Dog link ---
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> [spoiler][quote author=RE link=topic=10.msg157#msg157
date=1619590660]
> I think it is unlikely that a 3rd Party will have much success
in the next POTUS election cycle. Also, until we have a
systemic collapse of the economic system, I see political
upheaval as unlikely as well. As long as they keep handing out
stimulus money and rent & mortgage payment moratoriums and the
money still works to buy food at the superstore and gas at the
pump, it will remain mostly BAU.
>
> RE
>
--- End Quote ---
[/spoiler]
I agree. The Merican public remains too ignorant than to want a
better way. The 'third party' is another Gregorian chant just
like 'get rid of the Electoral College. I have been hearing
that singsong for fifty years. Another movement that will
continue to continually masturbate the mind of people with
better things to do. I do have a suggestion, read on. For as
long as we have left. Third party thought masterbate the mind.
Nothing will happen. Until reality kicks people hard enough
they will grab and scream vainly trying to hold on to BAU as
long as they can. They won't want to change a thing. Until it
is too late.
Along our descent into oblivion some people will type in lament.
When people can't hold on any longer. It will be too late.
We need a revolution.
[/quote]
Synchronicity or coincidence, this morning I was thinking about
'Gregorian Chant'..
I didn't want to be negative on this question, but the only
independent candidates to get anywhere need to have huge
finances like Ralph Nader or Trump. The media doesn't focus in
primaries coverage around who raised the most money for nothing.
The media also frames the performance of candidates with whether
they need to move further to the right or further to the left
etc. Can your candidate overcome political pundits saying they
didn't "tick all the boxes" like trump did? Not without a
fortune to spend.
The media are past the fake news and at the "how many fingers,
Winston?" stage now. On the left, just one example is Hunter
Biden giving University lectures on media disinformation. He
will open his laptop for the presentation and audiences will not
giggle or even smirk. If it looks, walks, and quacks like a
duck, then a duck is Russian Disinformation.
On the right, heres an example of being told several times to
ignore your eyes and ears and accept what he tells you that they
said:
HTML https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-the-lefts-mask-fetish-and-why-they-think-vaccine-hesitancy-should-be-a-felony
Since some of you will have missed it, Bidens spokesperson
explains why he wore the mask on the zoom call, to avoid
transmission with others in the room, not others on the call.
Carlson ignores that and tells you they did not give that
reason. He then goes on to say Biden walking outside with a mask
on is all that matters and says the reason Biden explains he did
that was not explained. That is straight after showing Biden
explaining he was doing this to show himself taking it off
outside and he will put it back on before going outside. Tucker
tells you to ignore that and Biden wearing a mask outside for
any length of time means he must wear it outside at all times,
despite just seeing him not doing that.
"The Green Party’s name unfortunately leads many to view it as a
niche environmental party that sidelines other pressing issues,
like the cost of health care, housing and education. That means
that fewer people identify with it and take the time to learn
more."
That answer to why not another third party like the greens was
backwards. It's not only that people see them as only
environmental and ignore the rest of their policies. I stopped
voting for them for the opposite reason; having the rest of
their platform was worse than having ongoing environmental
destruction.
#Post#: 169--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot Bidens speech...TPP
on hold
DIR By: Blade of Grass
Date: April 30, 2021, 4:23 am
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Is Biden's plans going to work? Is taxing those over $400,000
and his other $ making plans going to pay for a revitalized
middle class? Is the Paris Climate Accord enough or too little?
"No more trickle down...it's from the GRASS ROOTS UP!"?
Vaccinations, Unions, "buy American", immigrant help, law
enforcement reform, and a new grid, etc.... Is this going to
make America great again?
I have stopped going to TPP Zoom meetings, and I am monitoring
their email announcements, I am adding nothing now, just waiting
and watching.
#Post#: 178--------------------------------------------------
Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot Bidens speech...TPP
on hold
DIR By: Phil Potts
Date: May 1, 2021, 2:52 am
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--- Quote from: Blade of Grass link ---
>
> Is Biden's plans going to work? Is taxing those over $400,000
and his other $ making plans going to pay for a revitalized
middle class? Is the Paris Climate Accord enough or too little?
"No more trickle down...it's from the GRASS ROOTS UP!"?
Vaccinations, Unions, "buy American", immigrant help, law
enforcement reform, and a new grid, etc.... Is this going to
make America great again?
>
> I have stopped going to TPP Zoom meetings, and I am monitoring
their email announcements, I am adding nothing now, just waiting
and watching.
>
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That's a pity, I'm sure your input was worthwhile. I'll admit I
haven't looked at the website, but the flyer you posted didn't
mention shrinking the military footprint to pay for any of it,
which it could. I noticed that they said much of their
experience comes from being former Democrats, whose bipartisan
support starts every war and fuels it with rhetoric such as
trump being controlled by Putin. The right returns that with
saying Biden is controlled by china and pushed around by Putin.
Each side claims the other is not tough enough, for not starting
ww3 when in office. Maybe TPP former Democrats haven't changed
in that regard.
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