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       3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Blade of Grass
       Date: April 23, 2021, 7:47 am
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       Joining the TTP is a new adventure for me. I have never done
       political organizing before. A lot of their members have, and
       now they are organizing lots of meetings to discuss different
       strategies. Up till about 4 weeks ago I had the view that it was
       going to be virtually impossible to stop run away Global
       Warming. I had given up on XR about a year ago. Thought Greta's
       efforts were basically a news opportunity, and was warning my
       friends and family of the imminent disaster, especially for the
       children and the next generations as things would keep getting
       worse. I still think that we are in for a real rough ride no
       matter what.
       The Diner was/is a place that hones in on the truth. I think
       it still is and with some new members it looks even "smarter"!
       :) I am not going to advertise or push for this 3rd Party game
       on anyone here in the forum. I might mention something if it
       seems like important info to our concerns here, but otherwise
       discuss issues in a real, engaged way.
       I really liked Palloy, and remember how he would chide us for
       compromising to the "Man", because he was basically camping in
       the forest in some foreign land, off grid, but still able to
       trouble shoot the Diner's technical snags. Amazing dude.
       If I do post something about the progress of TPP I will use
       this thread to do so without campaigning, just
       information/"fact".
       Sorry to all for being over enthusiastic about this game in
       other threads. No more.
       #Post#: 78--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Cam
       Date: April 23, 2021, 8:02 am
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       This is the second mention I've seen of the People's Party. It's
       funny how two parties can have the same name but very different
       platforms. I took a quick look at the US party platform and it
       looks pretty good to me. I'm up in Canada where the People's
       Party of Canada is....well let's say, not so forward thinking.
       "There is however no scientific consensus on the theory that CO2
       produced by human activity is causing dangerous global warming
       today or will in the future, and that the world is facing
       environmental catastrophes unless these emissions are
       drastically reduced. Many renowned scientists continue to
       challenge this theory." - PPC Platform
       I remember I laughed the first time I read that, thinking it was
       satire. It is not!
       Good to hear you guys have a party willing to actually challenge
       the status quo. For now my vote will stick with the Green Party
       up here in Canada. Hope the People's Party makes it big!
       #Post#: 79--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Nearings fault
       Date: April 23, 2021, 9:54 am
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       --- Quote from: Blade of Grass link ---
       >
       > Joining the TTP is a new adventure for me. I have never done
       political organizing before. A lot of their members have, and
       now they are organizing lots of meetings to discuss different
       strategies. Up till about 4 weeks ago I had the view that it was
       going to be virtually impossible to stop run away Global
       Warming. I had given up on XR about a year ago. Thought Greta's
       efforts were basically a news opportunity, and was warning my
       friends and family of the imminent disaster, especially for the
       children and the next generations as things would keep getting
       worse. I still think that we are in for a real rough ride no
       matter what.
       > The Diner was/is a place that hones in on the truth. I think
       it still is and with some new members it looks even "smarter"!
       :) I am not going to advertise or push for this 3rd Party game
       on anyone here in the forum. I might mention something if it
       seems like important info to our concerns here, but otherwise
       discuss issues in a real, engaged way.
       > I really liked Palloy, and remember how he would chide us for
       compromising to the "Man", because he was basically camping in
       the forest in some foreign land, off grid, but still able to
       trouble shoot the Diner's technical snags. Amazing dude.
       > If I do post something about the progress of TPP I will use
       this thread to do so without campaigning, just
       information/"fact".
       >
       > Sorry to all for being over enthusiastic about this game in
       other threads. No more.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Their policy planks seem to be very close to our NDP party in
       Canada or the UKs old labour party or the more left leaning of
       the european social Democrats. For canada at the federal level
       the NDP has proven to be the source of most of our Liberal
       Partys more progressive policies. The have never managed to pull
       of a majority in our first past the post system but usually act
       as "king makers" in situations of minority government like we
       have right now. Provincially they have come to power in most
       provinces at some time or other including BC right now.
       It sounds like a hard sell in the states which seems to have a
       deeply ingrained
       political tradition of winner takes all.  It sounds like a noble
       cause and a good way to spend ones time.
       I'm more of a small "L" liberal as we call it here so fiscally
       conservative socially progressive. It's sort of an out of favour
       flavour these days.
       Cheers,  NF
       #Post#: 81--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: K-Dog
       Date: April 23, 2021, 3:43 pm
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       [spoiler]
       --- Quote from: Nearings fault link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Blade of Grass link=topic=10.msg77#msg77
       date=1619182076]
       > Joining the TTP is a new adventure for me. I have never done
       political organizing before. A lot of their members have, and
       now they are organizing lots of meetings to discuss different
       strategies. Up till about 4 weeks ago I had the view that it was
       going to be virtually impossible to stop run away Global
       Warming. I had given up on XR about a year ago. Thought Greta's
       efforts were basically a news opportunity, and was warning my
       friends and family of the imminent disaster, especially for the
       children and the next generations as things would keep getting
       worse. I still think that we are in for a real rough ride no
       matter what.
       > The Diner was/is a place that hones in on the truth. I think
       it still is and with some new members it looks even "smarter"!
       :) I am not going to advertise or push for this 3rd Party game
       on anyone here in the forum. I might mention something if it
       seems like important info to our concerns here, but otherwise
       discuss issues in a real, engaged way.
       > I really liked Palloy, and remember how he would chide us for
       compromising to the "Man", because he was basically camping in
       the forest in some foreign land, off grid, but still able to
       trouble shoot the Diner's technical snags. Amazing dude.
       > If I do post something about the progress of TPP I will use
       this thread to do so without campaigning, just
       information/"fact".
       >
       > Sorry to all for being over enthusiastic about this game in
       other threads. No more.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Their policy planks seem to be very close to our NDP party in
       Canada or the UKs old labour party or the more left leaning of
       the european social Democrats. For canada at the federal level
       the NDP has proven to be the source of most of our Liberal
       Partys more progressive policies. The have never managed to pull
       of a majority in our first past the post system but usually act
       as "king makers" in situations of minority government like we
       have right now. Provincially they have come to power in most
       provinces at some time or other including BC right now.
       It sounds like a hard sell in the states which seems to have a
       deeply ingrained
       political tradition of winner takes all.  It sounds like a noble
       cause and a good way to spend ones time.
       I'm more of a small "L" liberal as we call it here so fiscally
       conservative socially progressive. It's sort of an out of favour
       flavour these days.
       Cheers,  NF
       [/quote][/spoiler]
       [move]Is this not cool !!!!!!!!  You can hide all the content
       you are responding to.  But it is all there for easy reference
       !!!!!!!!![/move]
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       > It sounds like a hard sell in the states which seems to have a
       deeply ingrained
       > political tradition of winner takes all.
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree, when it comes to the American Psyche it will take a lot
       more than simply  'build it and they will come' for a new party
       to challenge the dominant duopoly of privilege and power.
  HTML http://www.sideprojectprofit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/ifyoubuildittheywillcome.png
       Americans play on the 'It is all about me' team.  That team is
       lost in the weeds.  That team asks what can the people do for
       ME.
       #Post#: 83--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Phil Potts
       Date: April 23, 2021, 3:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hamish link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Blade of Grass link=topic=10.msg77#msg77
       date=1619182076]I really liked Palloy, and remember how he would
       chide us for compromising to the "Man", because he was basically
       camping in the forest in some foreign land, off grid, but still
       able to trouble shoot the Diner's technical snags. Amazing dude.
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually he lived (or still lives) in a ranch-style (bungalow)
       house connected to the grid for electricity. He drives a car and
       shops in a store for groceries like most of us. A substantial
       number of Australians rely on rain water collected off their
       roofs - I guess that could be considered somewhat off-grid. He
       lives on a large plot that is mostly 'wild'. His neighbors are
       the opposite - considerable improvements. He has a few chickens,
       or as they call them, chooks. He does not grow any of his own
       food, hunt or forage.
       Except for the missing lower limb - Palloy and RE are like
       twins. Neither is about to live off the land using their own
       muscle power. Palloy (by his own words) has already attempted to
       take his own life. RE stated that his suffering took him to the
       brink. They both smoke, etc. I was so concerned about Palloy
       that I emailed his neighbor.
       Alas, I can give no actual details, because Palloy asked me not
       to 'dox' him. I have never done that and never will (for
       anyone). The Internet is forever(ish) and I don't want crass
       behavior like that on my record. If anyone ever sees crap like
       that from an account I created, then it means someone else got
       either my password or an Admin's password. So yes - everything
       you post online can be compromised to make you look bad from
       several directions, most of which you have no control over.
       [/quote]
       Im surprised to hear you speaking in the present tense and he is
       still breathing. I thought that 3 bedroom govt house would have
       now been fully occupied twice or thrice over by the Aboriginal /
       Torres Strait Islanders he lives among.
       #Post#: 84--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: April 23, 2021, 4:19 pm
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       Deleted (self censored).
       #Post#: 85--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Phil Potts
       Date: April 23, 2021, 5:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Blade of Grass link ---
       >
       > Joining the TTP is a new adventure for me. I have never done
       political organizing before. A lot of their members have, and
       now they are organizing lots of meetings to discuss different
       strategies. Up till about 4 weeks ago I had the view that it was
       going to be virtually impossible to stop run away Global
       Warming. I had given up on XR about a year ago. Thought Greta's
       efforts were basically a news opportunity, and was warning my
       friends and family of the imminent disaster, especially for the
       children and the next generations as things would keep getting
       worse. I still think that we are in for a real rough ride no
       matter what.
       > The Diner was/is a place that hones in on the truth. I think
       it still is and with some new members it looks even "smarter"!
       :) I am not going to advertise or push for this 3rd Party game
       on anyone here in the forum. I might mention something if it
       seems like important info to our concerns here, but otherwise
       discuss issues in a real, engaged way.
       > I really liked Palloy, and remember how he would chide us for
       compromising to the "Man", because he was basically camping in
       the forest in some foreign land, off grid, but still able to
       trouble shoot the Diner's technical snags. Amazing dude.
       > If I do post something about the progress of TPP I will use
       this thread to do so without campaigning, just
       information/"fact".
       >
       > Sorry to all for being over enthusiastic about this game in
       other threads. No more.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I searched 'TTP' and had to figure u meant TPP. I don't think
       anyone would mind you just posting a link.
       Greta was a mascot for billionaires as is ER. Neither would get
       publicity or world leaders lining up to pander to them, with
       their own solutions otherwise.
       I suggest that due to interglacial and ice age cycles, Al gores
       predictions have not eventuated. That is not to say pollution is
       not a problem, we certainly have an environmental crisis and on
       the current trajectory modern civilization is unsustainable.
       It's obvious to me that is already planned for in a way that
       does not interfere with the profit principal for bankers and
       billionaires.
       The one party system of corporate communism pretending to be a
       two party system of capitalism will be very hard to challenge,
       but good luck.
       #Post#: 89--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: Blade of Grass
       Date: April 23, 2021, 5:48 pm
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       Now this is not to advertise for them. It is just posted now
       because I again fucked up by using TTP without seeing the
       mistake after proof reading it twice
       before clicking post.  :P
       Your correct, it was supposed to be TPP.
  HTML https://peoplesparty.org/
       #Post#: 93--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: K-Dog
       Date: April 23, 2021, 11:45 pm
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       A people's party would have to get behind carbon credits for me
       to take it seriously.
  HTML https://youtu.be/nrzyNsDOgX8
       For those who don't know what carbon dividends are.  You can be
       sure the duopoly won't get behind the idea and a true party of
       the people can't ignore it.
       #Post#: 95--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd Party: The People's Party Crap shoot
   DIR By: RE
       Date: April 24, 2021, 1:16 am
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       Who would TPP put up for POTUS?  What happens if the CONgress is
       Dem majority & Senate is Rep and POTUS is TPP?
       RE
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