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       #Post#: 1365--------------------------------------------------
       Kounat's Collapse ("Final Final" Dungeon) Summary
       By: Darkboy132 Date: May 17, 2013, 11:22 pm
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       Before we begin, let me point out important things:
       [list]
       [li]Wizard's Labyrinth and Monster Train 301 are confirmed to be
       canon and are even referenced.[/li]
       [li]The Aernas Hammer, as mentioned in Zeruel and various parts
       through the dungeon, is a legendary weapon Ashtaroth used to
       make Kounat go boom. He wants to do it again so he can make the
       world go boom and reform it into his own image. However, it
       needs the key, Mari, in order to completely activate (which is
       why it backfired on him when he first used it).[/li]
       [li]The Klara Libri is a tome said to contain all of Aernas'
       secrets which Ashtaroth used to make the Aernas Hammer, but
       somehow lost it. Though Kassias Grandiel somehow got a clone of
       it, its still significantly powerful.[/li]
       [/list]
       [hr]
       The Grand Chase arrive at the heart of Archimedia, immediately
       taking notice of Kounat's castle, which Sieghart claims should
       have been destroyed during the destruction of Kounat. Kassias
       Grandiel arrives greets them and informs them of Ashtaroth's
       presence, though they are interrupted by Drawl on steroids.
       Grandiel heads off to confront Ashtaroth while the Chase deal
       with Drawl and later, Veron, who is also on steroids. After
       defeating them both, their clones appear and swarm in. However,
       Arawn and Gilberta arrive immediately afterward with their
       troops, setting aside their feuds to hold back the demon horde
       in order to allow the Chase to move on.
       The Chase is then confronted by [s]Chloe[/s] Dahlia, who taunts
       Ronan of the death of Harpe Noir by Ashtaroth's hand (in Monster
       Train 301) and attacks. After the dark elf's defeat, Ashtaroth,
       now a big tall buff guy, arrives with a Thanatos-like attitude
       and states she no longer has any usefulness. Dahlia begs for a
       second chance, and Ashtaroth says "You can serve *beheads her*
       by DYING!" He then sacrifices Dahlia's remains to summon several
       Highlander's Specters and forces them to fight the Chase.
       The Chase is forced to kill the Highlanders by destroying the
       source of their immortality (their soul left behind after
       destroying the body), though they are swiftly confronted by the
       ressurrected Graham, the leader of the Highlanders. Grandiel
       arrives and informs the Chase that Graham's soul is much
       stronger than the other Highlanders and cannot be destroyed by
       normal means. He employs the use of the Klara Libri's clone,
       though he regretfully informs Sieghart that his friends cannot
       be saved. After Graham's defeat, the Highlander's consciousness
       returns and speaks to Sieghart. Recognizing his old friend,
       Graham manages to reveal that Ashtaroth is activating the Aernas
       Hammer in order to recreate the destruction that annihilated
       Kounat. However, Sieghart notes that the Aernas Hammer cannot be
       complete without the key (Mari), and that Ashtaroth does not
       have it. Sieghart swears vengeance as Graham's soul fades away.
       Finally confronting Ashtaroth, the Chase have no problem
       defeating his pitiful beefed-up form, so he turns into a demon
       and goes King Nasod mode and is still beaten, a result of
       Grandiel's training in the Wizard's Labyrinth. Grandiel arrives
       and tries to convince his old friend to stop, but Ashtaroth
       ignores him and uses the power he gained from the Aernas Hammer
       and begins godmodding by effortlessly causing Sieghart's Raging
       Flame Sword to do 0 damage. Grandiel warns that normal attacks
       will not affect Ashtaroth, but since he doesn't have the key,
       the clone of the Klara Libri's power can kick his ass.
       So instead of the Grand Chase effortlessly doing their one-shot
       move on previous bosses, Grandiel takes his crappy time to
       whittle Ashtaroth's health while deploying a barrier that
       effortlessly nulls his attacks. After defeating Ashtaroth once
       and for all, the Aernas Hammer suddenly teleports Mari to the
       field. Void arrives shortly afterward and blasts Mari to prevent
       the Hammer from completing itself. Grandiel sacrifices himself
       to trap himself, Ashtaroth, and the Aernas Hammer into the
       Wizard's Labyrinth for all eternity.
       Arawn and Gilberta then arrive at the scene and immediately
       become wary upon spotting Void, though the misunderstanding is
       quickly cleared by Dio, telling both of them that they can trust
       him. Void then proceeds to wiping out Mari's memories of the
       Klara Libri to ease her suffering, takes the book, and requests
       the Grand Chase to take care of her before leaving.
       [hr]
       My thoughts:
       Okay, WTF is this? This has got to be the worst final final
       dungeon in history. The whole dungeon itself is completely
       cruddy, as well as being poorly and lazily made. The story
       itself doesn't even tie in properly.
       Despite Thunder Hammer establishing that a mass demonic invasion
       is pouring through, only Drawl and Veron are the demons from
       Elyos present. Preceding on is just Dahlia in one form with no
       upgrades. Then after that are lame-looking "immortal" specters
       which are nothing more than Sieghart clones and are ironically
       pitifully easy to dispatch. Finally is Ashtaroth who's still an
       everlasting copy of Ronan, Sieghart, King Nasod, and Arme. This
       is just pure lazy; a final final dungeon is supposed to have
       some sort of long and epic battle like Berkas' Lair, not cheap
       mimics.
       Then we have pathetic Ashtaroth who copied Thanatos' persona,
       King Nasod's form and moves, Ronan's, Sieghart's, and Arme's
       abilities and heck even used Summoning Jutsu: Reincarnation. How
       unfortunate, a big bad boss downgraded into a copycat. To make
       him even more lame, his first form only has 4 attacks, his
       second only 3, and his third 3 attacks + alpha strike + summons,
       all of which are incredibly lousy and doesn't even work a sweat
       to dodge; he's the "final final" boss, so he should be more
       menacing. To top it off, his immunity to all but an NPC is
       ridiculous; the Xenia gods aren't immune to anything, even
       Thanatos doesn't really need the Deity Orbs to be beaten. Heck,
       what was the point of training the GC in the Wizard's Labyrinth
       if they can't do jack shet? Finally, Kassias Grandiel also
       effortlessly blocking Ashtaroth's attacks is even more stupid;
       no challenge at all and he takes all the damn glory.
       Finally we have the lame story conclusion. The Dwarves and Elves
       suddenly making peace for just fighting Demons is something they
       could have resolved a frickin long ago. Oh, but the thing I find
       most absurd: we have Void HELPING Ashtaroth in Thunder Hammer by
       stealing the Deity Orbs and thus engineering his ascension to
       godhood as well as Zero's description severely and continuously
       labeling Void as a big bad guy, then he SUDDENLY TURNS ON
       ASHTAROTH by denying him the Aernas Hammer - WHAT THE FRICK WAS
       HIS PLAN THEN!? To even make that worse, Dio immediately tells
       Arawn and Gilberta off by saying he's a good guy - SO THEY
       SUDDENLY DECIDE TO FORGET VOID'S ANTAGONIST PERSONA?!
       #Post#: 1366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kounat's Collapse ("Final Final" Dungeon) Summary
       By: Noontide Date: May 23, 2013, 7:16 pm
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       wtf
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