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[1-1] The Former Supercontinent
PREFLOOD EARTH ..EARLY CATASTROPHISM - 5. TIME OF DINOSAURS -
Topic #1: The Supercontinent
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Postby webolife» Sun Dec 13, 2015
6:02 pm
__PREFLOOD EARTH
- Is this confusing Earth with Paradise in the Sky?
- Didn't continental drift occur centuries after the Flood to
cause the Ice Age?
... Old Earth creationism ... accepts the big bang, radiometric
dating, the flood as a local [mid east] event; and among other
things regarding Adam, argues that all hominids [incl.
Neanderthals] except Homo sapiens sapiens were not human.
... Genesis chaps. 1 - 4 to indicate several key things about
the early [pre-flood] earth:
- 1. Low topography -- the main rivers proceeded from a single
stream and separated, like a delta, as a opposed to merging
tributaries in a watershed; Psalm 104 [lit: "the mountains they
go up, the valleys they go down"] also adds that the boundary
mountain ranges went up after the flood, making a barrier
against a future catastrophic flood.
- 2. Single land mass is implied by the reference to a single
ocean.
- 3. Warm climate worldwide -- no seasonal weather until after
the flood, primordial seasons based on astronomy
- 4. No matar, and no rain -- the initiating factors of the
flood were not in effect, suggesting a greenhouse climate.
- 5. Humans and all animals were contemporary.
- 6. Several factors [eg. atmospheric] contributed to longevity
of lifespans for all organisms, incl people.
- The sending of the matar initiated the flood event. - For the
mountains to have risen, as they were witnessed to have done at
the end of the flood [second half of the flood year], what we
understand as continental drift must have occurred during the
first half. Running the tape backwards, so to speak, the
"fountains of the deep" [now mid-ocean rifts] would have been
faults originally through the middle of the one-land mass. So
the fountains indicate the beginning of the crustal displacement
and seafloor spreading which cascaded into all of the other
factors of the flood, ending in the boundary mountains and
subsequent formation of volcanic chains and island arcs.
- Therefore, in catastrophic flood geology the __sedimentary
strata belong to the flood era, not before [__except the
variously metamorphosed Pre-Cambrian groupings__], and only some
following. These later deposits would have been in conjunction
with the melt-back of the glaciers and rising sea levels in the
few centuries following the flood. There is no macro-evolution
in this picture, and all the fossils are a result of the
flooding, as their sedimentary resting places affirm.
- So the SD events [if accepted] must have been in conjunction
with the early flood era, not an event of centuries later.
- I don't really care if the matar resulted from the earth's
passage through the asteroid belt, or if the asteroid belt
resulted from some interplanetary event that coincided with the
bombardment of earth, or if it was Venus, Mars or some other
large planetoid that interacted with the Earth. The least exotic
view seems to be a single body passing by and interacting for a
time [a la Velikovsky] with the earth. I think the evidence is
sparse for most versions of what caused the bombardment, so I
base my timelines on the evidence left behind. There are major
astroblemes associated with every major sedimentary stratum
[what the standard modelers think of as epochs], so I take it
also as a plain reading of the biblical record that the start
and stop of the matar bookend the first 150 days of the flood
event, and this further supports that the "geologic column"
resides in that time frame.
- Post-flood results:
1. Mountainous topography, resulting from the drift event of the
flood
2. Separated continents
3. Seasonal weather, from the "new" tilt of the earth, multiple
climates world-wide, and a global wind system that was not in
effect during the early greenhouse -- also a gradual global
warming trend following the glaciation
4. Rain as a regular event
5. Humans and animals preserved and speciated from the few
survivors of the flood event (another thread topic)
6. Decreasing longevity over the centuries
====================postby Lloyd » Thu May 05, 2016 7:09 am
__EARLY CATASTROPHISM
- Grey Cloud at
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o/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16207&p=113289#p113289
denied catastrophism and said "Many, if not most, of the myths
relating to stars etc are conveying information about navigation
rather than catastrophe". I'm not familiar with star myths, but
most myths were about the planets, Saturn, Venus and Mars, I
believe, and they were often about catastrophes. Here's some
background.
- Catastrophism and Anthropology
[SIS C&C Review] 5 Mar 2003
=-1]
HTML http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/search.cgi?zoom_query=%22Both+historians+and+anthropologists+were%22&zoom_per_page=25&zoom_and=1&zoom_cat[]=-1
HTML http://www.catastrophism.com/intro/search.cgi?zoom_query=%22Both+historians+and+anthropologists+were%22&zoom_per_page=25&zoom_and=1&zoom_cat[
From: SIS Chronology& Catastrophism Review (1994) "Proceedings
of the 1993 Cambridge Conference" Issue Contents Catastrophism
and Anthropology - The Influence of Neo-Catastrophism on the
Interpretation of Flood Rituals and Ceremonies Benny Josef
Peiser School of Human Sciences, Liverpool John Moores
University
- Introduction
- __Only 150 years ago, most of Europe's leading scholars were
convinced that the ancient flood traditions and festivals
originated from natural catastrophes that had occurred during
man's early history. Both historians and anthropologists were
able to point to a rich variety of catastrophe legends found
throughout the world.__< For more than 2500 years these ancient
traditions were generally viewed as historical. Not only did all
the famous scholars of antiquity write about these natural
disasters but, moreover, __during the 18th and 19th century the
newly established science of geology gave rise to findings and
strata which clearly seemed to testify to major natural
upheavals. As a consequence, scientists of Europe's
enlightenment (among others Vico, Boulanger, Whiston, Cuvier)
related the origins of ancient customs and rituals to these past
cataclysms.__< Vico and Boulanger accepted the ancient belief
that the Earth had undergone many natural disasters and that
from these global upheavals all institutions and religious
ceremonies were derived.
- Yet, with the emergence of 19th century evolutionary
gradualism, all fields of science banned catastrophe theories
completely from universities, research and scientific journals.
Over and over again, historians and anthropologists rejected any
historical reading of the ancient catastrophe legends and
rituals by reference to the works of Darwin and Lyell [1. __When
Frazer published his comprehensive study on the worldwide story
of the great flood, he stressed the paradigmatic importance of
Darwin's theory of evolution, consequently rejecting every
possibility that the tradition originated from historical events
[2. According to Frazer's biographer, the implicit purpose of
this rejection was 'to undermine the Bible and religion by
insisting on its folkloric stratum, thereby associating it with
savagery'__< [3. Since then, 20th century anthropology has
tended to view the ancient flood traditions as mere reflections
of 'mythical' thinking, whereas catastrophe rituals and
festivals are almost totally ignored [4. As a result,
anthropological studies which have focused on the relationship
between religious ceremonies and catastrophe rituals and
traditions of natural disasters are very rare. Despite the fact
that research in the field of rituals has quickened its pace
over the course of this century, ceremonies which re-enacted or
commemorated natural catastrophes have been paid relatively
little attention [5. In the light of new astronomical
discoveries and the emergence of scientific neo-catastrophism,
it is necessary to re-evaluate the historicity and the possible
effects of the ancient flood catastrophes. Since astronomy,
geology and biology have finally accepted the catastrophic
history of planet Earth and its inhabitants, it is time for
anthropologists to recognise the findings of natural science and
to adopt them in their research.
- Collective reactions to natural catastrophes
- Natural catastrophes do not necessarily lead to collective
responses in form of catastrophe games or rituals. In many
cases, the scope of the disaster is limited and the disaster
agent is clearly identified. However, if a natural catastrophe
results in extreme devastation and destruction, or if the agent
of destruction is unknown, the disaster can prove to be a
traumatic experience which triggers post-disaster collective
reactions. These activities stem from the desire of communities
struck by catastrophe to influence and pacify the agents of
destruction. Furthermore, expressive (and in most cases violent)
responses are triggered by collective anger and tension
following traumatic catastrophes. To avoid internal violence and
civil strife, the growing aggression within a community of
survivors has to be acted out in a structured, organised and
generally accepted (i.e. ritualised) form. It was particularly
conspicuous in antiquity that many catastrophe games and
festivals took place either to commemorate foregone catastrophes
or to avoid future disasters. Although there is considerable
overlap, these games and festivals can be classified into three
different categories: i) festivals, which were held in
commemoration of a foregone disaster; ii) playful rituals, with
an apotropaic function of hindering future natural catastrophes;
iii) games, which dramatised and re-enacted a natural
catastrophe. Most of these ceremonies were held in the form of
combats, blood sacrifices and religious rituals or,
alternatively, through mimetic dramatisation of the catastrophe.
Right from the very start they had the supposed function of
pacifying natural forces and of hindering an apocalyptic end of
the world.
=========================Postby Lloyd » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:13
pm
- Catastrophism Topics
At the end of my previous post I listed Catastrophism topics,
which are meant to be chronologically sequential, like this:
1. Pre-Flood Supercontinent > 2. Saturn Flare > 3. Civilization
> 4. Asteroid Bombardment > 5. Continental Drift > 6. Flood > 7.
Fossils > 8. Mountain Uplift > 9. Erosion > 10. Glaciation
#1-#3 apparently occurred at least 1,000 years before the main
cataclysm. #4-#9 occurred during the main cataclysm about 4,350
years ago. #10 started soon after the cataclysm and lasted a few
hundred years. Here is a comparison between GW's and CC's models
for the origin of the Supercontinent.
__Topic #1: The Supercontinent
__GW: SUPERCONTINENT ORIGIN
-ANISOTROPY: On a primordial mostly molten earth, anisotropy
predisposes one side of the earth to melt or erupt more basaltic
lava
-this becomes the early Pacific basin.
-PLANETARY ENCOUNTER: An early close tidal encounter with the
Moon [or other astronomical body] facilitated this eruptive
phase.
-major bombardment would have not yet occurred
-REBOUND: The accompanying release of pressure initiates an
opposite side upheaval,
-evidenced by basement continental rocks having a composition
similar to the mantle materials, eg. granites,
-which have undergone pressure-induced metamorphism during the
uplift process.
-EARTH ROTATION: Stabilization of the earth's ~24 hr rotation
would have occurred at this time.
-PRECAMBRIAN: Washing over of this basement continental mass by
the seas during uplift covers the basement material with
sedimentary Pre-Cambrian strata,
-as well as some primordial continental slope canyons/coastal
valleys
-which would predispose additional deposition events around the
edges of the supercontinent.
-UPLIFT: The accumulation of overburden keeps in motion the
[isostatic] uplift of the supercontinent to its pre-cataclysm
level
-3 km above the average surface level,
-with a continental root extending down a few dozen kilometers.
-Natural uplifted "cells" [cratons] at this point joined
together [the "ur" supercontinent]
-acquire potential energy under the pressure of isostasy,
-and will later become the drifting plates catalyzed into motion
by bombardment of the "matar".__<
- __CC: SUPERCONTINENT ORIGIN
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=4741-4752-56
... 6199-15407
[LK Summary?: ProtoMoon was tidally extended; part of it
soft-landed on Earth as the supercontinent. The remainder went
into orbit as the Moon.]
-PROTOMOON GRANITE: Somewhat more telling of an impact is the
fact that the Moon is made of granite, and so is the Earth's
continental crust,
-but the rest of the Earth (i.e., the oceanic crust, and
everything below) is fundamentally different stuff
— most notably of greater density, which is what allows the
continents to float on the mantle and extend above sea level.
-The granite could not have been indigenous to the Earth,
-because if it was, it would have bubbled up to the surface when
the Earth was entirely molten,
-and it would have leveled quickly under the force of gravity —
as fast as irregularities in the surface of a lava lake
disappear
— producing a very thin, very flat layer completely covering the
heavier basalt.
-So the continental granite had to arrive later, after the Earth
had cooled.
-And the impact had to be gentle enough not to completely
re-melt the Earth.
-FLATTENED SUPERCONTINENT: Thereafter, the granite slowly
pancaked into the original super-continent of Pangaea,
-which then rifted into the modern continents, under the force
of gravity.
-(This disregards hypotheses concerning earlier supercontinents,
such as Rodinia andColumbia, for lack of a force that could
recombine the fragments.)
-The arc-like shape of Pangaea is atypical of collisional
deposits
— perhaps the collider was spinning, and matter was scraped off
of the collider where the rotation caused submersion.
-SIZE COMPARISON: The volume of the Moon is
2.20 × 10^10 km3, while the volume of the continents
is 7.58 × 10^9 km3.1
-So Theia would have had a volume of 2.95 × 10^10
km3, and it would have lost 26% of its volume to the Earth,
while retaining 74% for itself [the Moon].__<
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