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CHRONOLOGY
By: Admin Date: January 29, 2017, 8:51 pm
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__CHRONOLOGY
*(k means thousand years ago)
1. SYSTEMS FORMATION
1. (?k) Solar System & Saturn System formation from imploded
nebular filament
_CC
2. SUPERCONTINENT
2. (15k) Supercontinent formation from soft HalfMoon collision
2a. Dense atmosphere, Biosphere proliferation & gigantism in
ideal climate
2b. Advancement of Civilization
_CC,MF,JG,CG
3. GAS GIANTS COLLISION
3a. (4.5k) Saturn System encounter with Jupiter
3b. Saturn Flare
3c. Asteroid Belt formation
3d. Saturn Subplanets dispersal
_CD,CC
4. BOMBARDMENT
4a. (4.4k) Asteroids bombardment of Earth, Moon & Mars
4b. Hudson Bay impact
4c. Basins formation
_C.COM
5. GLOBAL FLOOD
5a1. (4.4k) Elliptically orbiting Moon
5a2. Great Flood tsunamis (6 months)
_JB,MF?
6. SUPERCONTINENT BREAKUP
6a. (4.4k) Asteroid impact of Supercontinent
6b. Supercontinent breakup and Rapid Continental Drift
6c. Near Mountain Ranges formation
6d. Far Mountain Ranges formation
6e. Vulcanism & Flood Basalts in Far mountain ranges
_MF
7. ICE AGE
7a. (4.4k) Chicxulub & Younger Dryas impacts & conflagration
7b. Ice Age (few hundred years)
7c. Ancient Ice Age Map making
7d. (4.2k) Civilization rebuilding
7e1. Scablands flooding
7e2. Grand Canyon formation from Grand & Hopi Lakes draining
_RF,RC,WBD
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=0. __CHRONOLOGY
- Chronology: Here's another version of an updated chronology
that I posted on the Earth History thread.
*(k means thousand years ago)
1. (...k) Solar System formation string from imploding nebular
filament
2. (15k) Supercontinent formation from soft DiMoon collision
2a. Biosphere proliferation in ideal climate
2b. Advancement of Civilization
3. (12k) Saturn Flare from impact in Kuyper belt
4. (6k) Asteroid Belt formation from Aster collision
5. (5k) Saturn System encounter with Jupiter
5a. Saturn Subplanets dispersal
6. (4.4k) Asteroid Belt crossing (5 months)
6a. Asteroids bombardment of Earth, Moon & Mars
6b. Rapid Continental sliding
6c. Inner and outer Mountain Ranges formation
6d. Vulcanism in outer mountain ranges
6e. Flood Basalts in India, Siberia & Washington
6f. Great Flood tsunamis (5 months)
7. (4.4k) Ice Age (few hundred years)
8. (4.3k) Ancient Ice Age Map making
8a. Civilization rebuilding
9a. (4.2k) Scablands flooding
9b. Grand Canyon formation by lakes draining
__MIKE FISCHER'S CHRONOLOGY
- The Letter to Shock Dynamics
(
HTML http://www.newgeology.us/presentation30.html)
- The Site's Main Points from "When did it happen?"
... major phase of uplift in the Pliocene-Pleistocene occurred
over a short time primarily due to compression by Shock Dynamics
ca. 9,500 B.C.
- 1. Before the Flood, Earth's atmosphere was dense, so many
creatures grew to gigantic sizes
- 2. Dinosaurs occupied most of the protocontinent while people
and other animals lived in Mesopotamia or East Antarctica
- 4. There was much sand and mud around the edges of the
protocontinent and East Antarctica
- 3. Then a long swarm of meteorites of all sizes struck the
Moon and Earth for forty days, causing rain and loss of much
atmosphere
- 5. During the Flood tsunamis deposited sediment from the
continental shelf onto the protocontinent
- 6. As atmospheric pressure fell much calcium carbonate
precipitated from the sea water, forming thick sedimentary rock
with fossils
- 7. "Paleozoic" creatures living near sea shores were buried
first.
- 8. "Mesozoic" creatures that could escape inland were buried
second.
- 10. Survivors of the Flood landed in Mesopotamia and spread
out on the flat protocontinent
- 11. There were only 360 days in a year before the Flood.
- 9. After the Flood the Chicxulub meteorite hit Mexico,
spreading iridium and shocked quartz over the protocontinent
- 12. A giant meteorite impact north of what is now Madagascar
divided the protocontinent into the continents and islands
- 13. It raised all the mountain chains, and initiated global
volcanism
- 14. "Cenozoic" large mammals & others were buried and
fossilized
- 15. Much of the continental crust moved away from the equator
and toward the poles
- 16. Atmospheric moisture and volcanic and impact dust led to
cooling and extensive rain and snow fall, glaciation
- 17. Civilization was rebuilt such as along the newly formed
Nile River
- 18. Meteor impacts produced the dust on the Moon
- My Comments. I found Chapman's Glacial Cataclysm at:
HTML http://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/31204066/glacial-cataclysm-chapmanresearch.<br
/>Do you know if that's the same? It seemed like it was
attributing a lot of evidence for glaciation to the Great Flood
or something. Why do you suggest that the cataclysms occurred
11,500 BP and earlier? It seems that the Flood occurred almost
4,400 BP.
- In listing your points, I rearranged a couple of items. I put
4 before 3 because 4 refers to the supercontinent situation
before 3's meteor swarm arrived. And I put 9 after 10 and 11,
because Chixulub occurred after the Great Flood in your model.
- 1. Regarding #1, it may be worthwhile to explain that a dense
atmosphere would have made dinosaurs and other megafauna much
more buoyant, so their muscles would have been strong enough to
move them around, and pterodachtyls would have been able to
stand on their pencil-thin legs.
- 2. Human footprints and fossils in dinosaur strata in the U.S.
Southwest seem to indicate that humans lived among dinosaurs to
some extent.
- 4. I think shale makes up over 50% of sedimentary strata,
sandstone 25% and limestone the rest. According to Noah’s Flood:
The Key to Correct Interpretation of Earth History (by
Baumgardner & others) at
HTML http://www.socalsem.edu/2015/08/09/noahs-flood-the-key-to-correct-interpretation-of-earth-history/<br
/>tsunamis 2,500 m high caused by tidal pulses could have produc
ed
enough cavitation along continental margins to produce all of
the sediments needed. It suggests that the 5 megasequences of
rock strata could have been deposited during monthly tidal
pulses between the 6 unconformities bordering the megasequences.
Snelling, on the other hand, seems to agree with your idea of
sand and mud coming up from the seafloor via smaller tsunamis, I
guess. But I presume both processes would have been involved.
- 3. Gordon says the Hebrew word, "matar", probably meant
"meteors" and they occurred during the entire 5 months of the
Great Flood. This reminded me of the part of the Saturn Theory
that says Earth was a satellite of Saturn and it drifted away
from Saturn and then crossed the Asteroid belt before arriving
at its present orbit. I thought maybe the 5 month meteor
bombardment may have occurred when Earth crossed the Asteroid
belt. I thought that might be when the Ice Age occurred, when
Earth moved from the Asteroid belt to within the orbit of Mars.
Before that its atmosphere may have been thick enough to prevent
much cooling. However, it looks like the Ice Age had to occur
some time after the Great Flood, as you say. There seems to be
something to the Saturn Theory, because the ancients said Saturn
was the god at the north pole, the pole star, and that Saturn
was the first Sun etc.
- 5. seems probable re sedimentation; plus my comments on #4.
- 6. seems probable re lime from seawater; I didn't know that,
but Gordon may have been aware of that.
- 7&8. seem probable re sequence of "Paleozoic" & "Mesozoic"
creatures' burials.
- 10. seems possible re Survivors landing in Mesopotamia. Saturn
Theory says a lot of phenomena in ancient myths were celestial
events, rather than terrestrial. There were plasma phenomena
seen in the sky that looked like people and animals etc. So it's
hard to tell if Noah's ark was celestial or also terrestrial.
- 11. seems possible re 360 days in a year before the Flood.
That doesn't seem important as yet, but it could be.
- 9. seems possible re Chicxulub meteorite hitting after the
Flood. I'd like to know more of your evidence for that.
- 12. seems very probable re SD impact and rapid continental
drift. Maybe you need a video to address the issue of why the
popular Creationist theory of rapid CD is inferior to the SD
model. I guess you might have to suppress your idea of the Great
Flood occurring before 11,500 BP in order to get Creationists to
consider your model.
- 13. seems probable re SD causing mountain uplift and
volcanism, but I thought that all occurred during the Great
Flood, because the sediments would have been soft, so the strata
could fold without breaking, as seen in many mountain strata. If
the mountain uplift happened long after the Great Flood, would
the strata still have been soft? Or do you think the strata were
softened by heating during the SD event? If so, do you have much
evidence for that? I bet Gordon would know something about that.
- 14. seems plausible re "Cenozoic" animals fossilized during
the SD event in crumbly strata.
- 15. seems probable re SD pushing some continents toward the
poles.
- 16. seems probable re evaporation & glaciation. Gordon says
secondary erosion and sedimentation occurred after mountain
uplift.
- 17. seems probable re civilization rebuilding along the Nile
etc, but much later, i.e. ca. 4,300 BP.
- 18. seems probable re meteor impacts making the dust on the
Moon.
- Regarding Ice Age Mammals. I think you should briefly explain
how you differ from Oard. He seems to say that the Arctic Ocean
kept the nearby surrounding land warm for a few centuries,
during which the animals got trapped there as the climate
gradually got colder, whereas you seem to say that all of the
lands were warmer until the SD event, which moved some of the
land north into freezing conditions, and the animals succumbed
right away instead of gradually.
- You said, "If we use the elephant life-cycle as a model, a 13
year doubling rate (starting with 2 mammoths) would produce a
population at least as large as that which was buried." Did you
show the figures anywhere? I think it's worth showing them. 300
years / 13 years/generation = 23 generations. 2^23 > 8 million.
- Regarding Tektites. You call it the largest strewnfield
(covering the Indian Ocean to Australia), but doesn't that refer
to the present size of it? When the tektites fell (before India,
Southeast Asia, Australia etc moved away from Africa), the field
would have been much smaller. Shouldn't you mention that?
- The Mechanism of Impacts. Here are some of Charles'
discussions on impacts etc:
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=4741-4760-5079-9454-10997-12982-10607-10753-10962.<br
/>He says impacts are usually thermonuclear explosions. He did d
o
a paper on meteoric air bursts at
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=7662.
He and Gordon consider 26 hours
way too short a time for the continents to have moved to near
their present locations. What convinced you that the continents
took only 26 hours to complete their journeys, instead of a
longer period of time? It makes sense to me because of the great
reduction in friction that you explain. Actually, there may have
been even less friction, since the Moho layer is likely plasma,
so the movements would have been like maglev with the continents
levitating on the Moho. One of Charles' papers explains why the
Moho is likely plasma, only about a meter thick.
- Your model says the Shock Dynamics meteor came in at about a
30 degree angle (going from west to east over Africa and landing
north of Madagascar). Normally, one would think that the
momentum would be transferred only in the forward direction to
the pieces that became India, southeast Asia, Australia and New
Zealand. But Charles' model explains why the momentum would be
transferred in all horizontal directions. It's because the
impact produced a thermonuclear explosion. He explains that all
that's needed for such an explosion is extreme heat and extreme
pressure, both of which a fast moving meteor provides. So I
think readers may be able to understand that better (momentum
transferred west toward Africa and the Americas as well as to
the north and east) if it's compared to throwing a hand grenade
or other kind of bomb.
- Supercontinent Breakup. I think it would help if your model
could explain why the Americas broke away from Africa and
Europe, instead of at least Africa moving westward as well. I
think Gordon suspects that a tidal force from another large body
weakened the supercontinent along that rift line. Charles thinks
the supercontinent was possibly torn off of the Moon long ago,
because of the similarity in rock composition between the
supercontinent and the Moon. So I thought maybe ocean water may
have gotten trapped under the supercontinent, which could have
weakened the crust in a way similar to Walter Brown's Hydroplate
model. I admit, however, that it doesn't seem probable that much
water should have gotten trapped, since a ball shape meeting
another ball shape should move almost all fluids to the side.
Eurasia didn't break apart, so why did Africa and the Americas?
What would most likely have weakened the crust there between
them?
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am
__GEOCHRONOLOGY
I'm working on a sort of paper on this at
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=4741-4759-6813-6226-9754-18209-18211.
CC on Planets (Earth Features since Formation):
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=6199
CC on Electric Orbits (Titius-Bode Law):
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=15369
Geochronology, Part 1 (Mythic Record):
HTML http://saturniancosmology.org/files/thoth
Geochronology, Part 2 (CC on Supercontinent):
HTML http://qdl.scs-inc.us/?top=15407
Geochronology, Part 3 (Great Flood):
HTML https://www.socalsem.edu/2015/08/09/noahs-flood-the-key-to-correct-interpretation-of-earth-history/
Geochronology, Part 4 (Post Flood Catastrophes):
HTML http://www.icr.org/article/4788/385
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