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Re: NEW UPDATES
By: Admin Date: October 10, 2019, 6:56 pm
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Edom's Copper Industry.
HTML http://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/edoms-copper-industry.htm
Archaeology
22 Sep 2019
At
HTML https://phys.org/news/2019-09-technological-edomite-kingdom-10th-century.html<br
/>... a paper on the emergence of the kingdom of Edom in the Iro
n
Age has been published in the open access journal PLOS ONE by an
Israeli team of researchers - see
HTML https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0221967
... It concerns
excavations of copper mines in the Wadii Arabah and central
Timna Valley locations. They advance the theory there was a
sudden and rapid 'leap' in 'technological knowhow' and seek to
understand how it came about. They propose a comparison to the
'punctuated equilibrium' model for evolutionary change
characterised by long term stasis punctuated by shor lived
episodes of rapid change. This idea was in stark contrast to the
original evolutionary theory, a model of gradualist and constant
change and update. In this instance, the sudden leap in
technological innovation in Edom's copper mining industry was
preceded by a long priod of established smelting techniques.
Vigilant readers may recognise another possibility - the arrival
of new immigrants with a superior technology as we are talking
about the period immediately following the end of the LB age (or
even a technology that came into fashion in the dregs of the LB
age and was carried on over into the early Iron Age). ONe might
think in terms of Solomon - but more pertinently one might think
of Ramses III who claims to have campaigned in Edom (and the
only reason he might have done that was to renew Egyptian
interest in the copper mines). Peter James made just this point
in one of his papers and that was that Ramses III regained
control of Edom and the Transjordan valley after the
vicissitudes of the late dynasty 19 period. In other words, it
might have been overrun by tribes from the desert (including
Arabia). The campaign therefore can be seen to re-establish the
Egyptian empire in the southern Levant - and the copper mines
may have been an addition, not previously exploited by Egyptian
technology. One might also bear in mind that at the end of the
LB age the Levant was in upheaval, throwing people up from
regions in Anatolia and the Aegean with technology foreign to
Edom - and to Egypt. One should not jump to the conclusion it
was a home grown innovative technology as it could equally have
been introduced from abroad. Solomon, for example. was closely
aligned with the Phoenicians, and sea peoples became an element
in their population at the end of the LB age - and the same goes
for peoples washed up in what became known as Philistia (SW
Canaan). Significantlyh, the authors of the study see a possible
correlation with Shoshenk I who also appears to have campaigned
through the Transjordan valley (and therefore Wadi Arabah etc).
They subscribe to the mainstream dating of Shoshenk , in the
second half of the 10th century BC. In Peter James 'Centuries of
Darkness' scheme Shoshenk I would have been active in the 9th
century BC, somewhat later. It would be interesting to know what
dates these innovations actually were introduced. For example,
if Iron IIA is implicated and then no connection with Solomon is
possible (in a revised chronology). If, on the other hand, the
innovations are earlier than Iron IIA and then we have a variety
of permutations.
The story is also at
HTML https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-09/afot-tau091819.php<br
/>... we have a slightly different slant, which begins by quotin
g
Genesis 36:31 which says of Edom, they had ... 'kings who
reigned in Edom before any Israelite king reigned.' The PLOS ONE
paper says the kingdom of Edom flourished in the Arava Desert in
the 12th and 11th centuries BC (much closer to Ramses III). They
attribute the change in technology to Shoshenk I (or the
aftermath of his campaign which in mainstream chronology is
dated mid 10th century BC, an Egyptian excursus into Arabah
(both Timna and Faynan).
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Re: NEW UPDATES
By: Admin Date: October 10, 2019, 7:04 pm
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Fossil Bed, Japan
HTML http://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/hadrosaurs-and-turtles.htm
Hadrosaurs and Turtles
Geology
29 Sep 2019
At www.icr.org/article/11545/ ... Robert forwarded this
interesting post - another mass kill event with an out of place
dinosaur. Each time a fossilised creature with legs is found
mixed up with fossil marine life there is a quandary. When the
same situation repeats itself several times over it becomes even
more of a quandary. The author of the piece is referring to the
discovery of a new and relatively complete skeleton of a
hadrosaur that has been found in Japan (the so called duck
billed dinosaur). It had teeth adapted to eating plants and
walked on hind legs or on all fours - and is very similar to
fossils of hadrosaurs found in Russia, China and N America. One
was found recently in Texas and is described as a marsh
inhabiting dinosaur that munched on aquatic vegetation. Hence,
its association with the ocean is not so surprising - see
www.sis-group.org.uk/news/duck-billed-dinosaur.htm for example.
However, the link is a Creationist web site and they presumably
wish to make a link to Noah's Flood. This is because the fossil
was found amongst mainly marine fossils. The researchers,
uniformitarian in outlook, have said (among other things) the
hadrosaur floated out to sea and subsequently became fossilised.
If it was an inhabitant of an estuary and then that is quite
possible from a gradualist perspective but one must wonder if
both the marine life and the dinosaur (and any other terrestrial
fossils in the cache) were overwhelmed by a tsunami wave rushing
up a riverine estuary location and producing a mass of dead
animals that were buried in sand and silt and subsequently
fossilised. This situation is not impossible as scientists have
suggested something similar for other fossil beds (with mixed
marine and terrestrial animal life). One does not have to accept
the idea of a universal flood as the agent of fossilisation as
tsunami waves appear to be common occurrences in localities such
as Japan. In fact, such an explanation removes any notion of a
mystery.
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