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2 = [1-2e] The Great Flood: Advanced Civilization
By: Admin Date: January 7, 2017, 7:28 pm
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[1-2e] - WETTER CLIMATE - ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS - CONFERENCE -
1. ADVANCED CIVILIZATION - ATLANTIS - ADVANCED ANCIENT
CIVILIZATION - POST-FLOOD RESETTLEMENT - HUMAN MIGRATION -
SABOTAGE - ELONGATED SKULLS - ELONGATED SKULLS - ANCIENT ALIENS
- BABEL
__WETTER CLIMATE
- GLOBAL CLIMATE WETTER FOR CENTURIES AFTER THE FLOOD
In the Middle East prior to 1000 BC large forest trees covered
especially the higher elevations. Israel and Jordan supported a
wild animal population not unlike that of North Africa. Similar
evidence exists for North and South America, Asia and Australia
(Jonathan Gray, The Corpse Came Back, chapter 20). And the
transition from ice age to the present desert environment took
place between 2250 to 2000 BC. (See Appendix 1.)
__ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS DURING GREAT FLOOD
- Evidence of Civilization Destroyed by Global Cataclysm
CITY 6,000 FEET UNDER THE SEA
-In 1965 a research vessel, "Anton Brunn", was investigating the
Nazca Trench, off Peru. At a depth of 6,000 feet a photograph
revealed huge upright pillars and walls, some of which seemed to
have writing on them. In other nearby locations, apparently
artificially shaped stones lay on their sides, as though they
had toppled over.
- ARTIFACTS UNCOVERED
-1-In Western Australia in 1975, water drillers near Perth
struck a concrete wall 30 feet below the surface.
-2-At Aix-en-Provence, France, from 1786 to 1788, coins, stumps
of columns and other worked stones, were discovered 50 feet
down, below eleven beds of compact limestone.
-3-At Blue Lick Springs, Kentucky, underground, below the
remains of a prehistoric mastodon, was discovered a pavement of
cut-stone tiles.
-4-In the autumn of 1868, in a strip of coal mine near
Hammondsville, Ohio, at 100 feet below ground was found a large,
smooth, slate wall covered with inscriptions similar to
hieroglyphics, in lines about three inches apart. Crowds flocked
to see, but the slate soon crumbled and the writing was
destroyed.
-5-In November 1829, in a quarry twelve miles northwest of
Philadelphia, at a depth of 69-70 feet below ground, a block of
marble was found, which bore an indentation containing the
raised alphabet characters 'I' and 'U'. Two years later the
discovery appeared in an illustration in the American Journal of
Science, vol.19, p.361.
-6-In Omaha, Nebraska, about 130 feet underground, coalminers
found a carved slab of rock with diamond shapes. In the centre
of each diamond was an engraving of a human face (Omaha Daily
News, 1897).
-7-In 1928 in coal mine No. 5, near Heavener, Oklahoma, at a
depth of two miles, miners encountered a wall composed of 12
inch cube concrete blocks polished so that all six sides acted
as mirrors. About 100 to 150 yards further down the shaft, the
same wall or one very similar was uncovered. That part of the
mine was then filled up.
-8-Coal was NOT laid down 300 million years ago, but very
recently, after civilized man.
-9-Huge stone cities, very ancient, with paved streets and tall
pyramids choked with forest, have been sighted in the Amazon
jungle. climate was more temperate and the rivers drained a
fertile area. their alphabetic letters were Phoenician and
Greek, 3,000 to 4,000 years ago. the whole Amazon basin was a
shallow inland sea that existed AS RECENTLY AS 1200 BC. People
wall-papered their houses with thin sheets of beaten gold. The
people had fine features. They used gold coinage and operated
fleets. Their buildings were of shining white stone. Their
cities boasted magnificent plazas, paved streets, ornamented
temples, round-topped pyramids, mansions and fountains. They
erected lighthouses and used lenses and reflectors, the elements
of the telescope. And the cities were walled against the sea of
the Maranon (the Amazon Sea). According to native traditions,
they used a light source akin to our electric bulb.
- South America was well known in antiquity. Before the jungle
took over, it was resplendent with great cities. Many ancient
traditions speak of an advanced culture which flourished
thousands of years ago to the north and west of the Brazilian
highlands. Books of wonderfully executed paintings and
hieroglyphics have been found among naked Panos savages of the
deep Peruvian forests near the gorge of the Ucayle, in the
Amazon headwaters, in the eighteenth century. The Indians
explained that the books, handed down, contained a history of
events in the days of their ancestors. The pages of fine cotton,
in external appearance resembling modern quarto leaves, were
bound with a cover, glued together and fastened by agave
threads. One of these ancient books was acquired by Fray
Narcissus Gilbar and sent to Lima to be inspected by P.
Cisneros, compiler of a periodical called El Mercurio Peruano.
=========================Postby Lloyd » Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:46 pm
- ANCIENT MAPS Show Land Before & After Cataclysm
HTML http://beforeus.com
- Maps show Antarctica firstly free of ice, secondly, the centre
of Antarctica beginning to fill with ice (rivers and fjords
being shown where today mile-thick glaciers flow) and thirdly,
Antarctica after it had become mostly covered in ice. The U.S.
Hydrographic Office declared one of these maps to be over 5,000
years old (Gray, Dead Men’s Secrets, pp.24-30). Similar ancient
maps show Greenland before it was covered in ice; glacial
actions in the Baltic countries; and northern Europe being
covered by the Ice Age glaciation’s furthest advance. They were
recording it as it occurred! The map illustrates this
interesting fact: Before the final tearing apart of the
continents, the Ice Age had begun.
[It apparently took very advanced civilization to produce the
ancient maps below. The ones handed down were likely copies, but
they're nonetheless usually very accurate.]
- From the various astronomical references in the Book of Job,
different astronomers claim to be able to calculate the time in
which Job lived, 2200-2100 BC (Miracle in Stone, pp.203-206). In
his Ice Age book, Job recorded that “the waters [of the sea]
harden like stone, and the surface of the deep [ocean] is
frozen” (Job 38:29,30).
- Partholan’s coming to Ireland (15th century BC) says Lakes and
rivers ‘break out’.
- The Zeno map, drawn in 1380 outlines the coasts of Norway,
Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Scotland, as well as the exact
locations of islands. Greenland is shown free of glaciers.
Unknown rivers and mountains have since been located in
1947-1949.
- The Camerio map of 1502 was formed on a spherical grid.
- The Zauche map of 1737 shows Antarctica free of ice. it is
shown as two islands. Also shown are islands of the Mid-Atlantic
Ridge.
- Another map drawn in 1531 by Orontius Fineus indicates that
the centre of Antarctica was beginning to fill with ice. It
shows rivers and fjords.
- The Mercator chart of 1569 depicts only the Antarctic coast
uncovered by glaciers.
- Another, copied in 1559, the Hadji Ahmed map shows Antarctica
and the Pacific coast of the United States with the land bridge
that once existed between Siberia and Alaska.
- The Andrea Benincasa map (1508) indicates that Northern Europe
was being covered by the Ice Age glaciation’s furthest advance.
- The Iehudi Ibn ben Zara map of 1487 shows remnants of glaciers
in Britain And islands in the Mediterranean and Aegean Seas, now
under water.
- The Hamy King chart (1502) indicates northern Siberian rivers
emptying into the Arctic Ocean now all under ice. It also shows
glacial actions in the Baltic countries. What are today huge
islands in Southeast Asia are shown on this map joined to land
as they once were. The map even shows an ancient Suez Canal!
- Ptolemy’s map of the North depicts a glacial sheet advancing
across south-central Greenland; and at the same time it shows
glaciers retreating from northern Germany and southern Sweden.
- The Orontius Fineus map has Antarctica drawn too large,
although mountains and other details are accurately presented.
- The Gloreanus map (1510) shows not only the exact line of the
Atlantic coast of America from Canada to Tierra del Fuego, but
also the whole length of the Pacific coast.
- The King Jaime World Chart (1502) shows the Sahara Desert as a
fertile land with large lakes, rivers and cities.
- The Dulcert map of 1339, tracing from Ireland to the Don River
of Eastern Europe, shows great precision.
- The Hydrographic Office of the Navy verified an ancient chart
called the Piri Reis map, that goes back more than 5,000 years.
It contains the following:
1. The correct locations of South America, Africa, the
Caribbean, Spanish, African and South American coasts and even
isolated areas, like Cape Verde Island, the Azores, the Canary
Islands, as well as topographies of the interiors.
2. The coastline of Queen Maud Land in Antarctica with islands
and bays now below the Antarctic ice sheet and a mountain range
undiscovered until 1952.
3. The Isle of Pines, Andros Island, San Salvador, Jamaica, the
mouth of the Amazon and the island of Morajo.
4. Greenland, shown as three islands [as it was before
glaciation].
5. Every mountain range in northern Canada and Alaska.
=========================Postby Lloyd » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:13 pm
__CONFERENCE
... Online Conference Transcript
... CC is Charles. GW is Webb. LK is Lloyd.
__- 1. ADVANCED CIVILIZATION
LK: Are the ancient maps good evidence of former advanced
civilization?
- Do you think there was advanced civilization that produced the
Bible? Or that produced the ancient maps and other traces?
GW: Yes, I think the early Chaldean civilization was advanced,
and produced maps, but I don't endorse every archaeological
claim I've encountered about this.
--------------------Postby Pi sees » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:39 am
__ATLANTIS
My understanding is that "Khem" refers to the black soil left
behind by the flooding of the Nile.
- DATING OF ATLANTIS: Plato's proposed location for Atlantis
(i.e. in the vicinity of the Azores) and time of its destruction
(i.e. circa 9600 BCE) make complete sense in light of the
geological evidence.
- Plato's proposed location makes sense owing to the fact that
Azores Plateau is located at a 3-way intersection of the North
American, Eurasian and African tectonic plates. During the Ice
Age, the huge ice sheets covering northern Europe and Canada
would have pressed down on the glacier-covered areas of the
Eurasian and North American plates respectively; this pressure
would have caused isostatic rebound in the non-covered parts of
those plates, both across the plates and by channeling magma
pressure down the Mid-Atlantic Ridge toward the aforementioned
3-way plate intersection. At the same time, the African plate
was (and still is) pushing northwards into the Eurasian plate.
The combined effects of these geological pressures would have
been sufficient to raise a highly fertile but unstable landmass
of a size comparable to modern-day Turkey (as per Plato's
description), primarily composed of the Azores Plateau.
- The African plate was actually being forced to push into the
Eurasian plate in a twisting north-eastward fashion, because the
Azores Plateau was acting as an obstacle to the northwestern
part of the plate; this "twisting" meant that the northwestern
part of the African plate eventually started to pull away from
the Eurasian plate, resulting in a loss of geological pressure
critical to keeping a large Atlantic island above sea level.When
the European and North American ice-sheets started to melt
towards the end of the Pleistocene, the previously glaciated
areas of those continents started to undergo isostatic rebound,
resulting in a corresponding subsidence of the previously
unglaciated parts of their respective plates as well as a loss
in pressure being channeled down the Mid-Atlantic Ridge towards
the Azores Plateau. In other words, Atlantis was hit with a
geological triple-whammy (isostatic rebound, loss of channeled
pressure down the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, and the twisting movement
of Africa) about 12,000 years ago, causing the large island to
sink beneath the ocean surface in a geological instant. Over the
next 10+ millenia the former island continued to subside more
gradually (but still very quickly in geological terms) to its
present level, hence Plato's reference - based on much older
accounts - to a "shallow muddy shoal" rendering the Atlantic
Ocean "impassable" in the general area where Atlantis had
formerly stood.
__ADVANCED ANCIENT CIVILIZATION
many advanced ancient ruins: Baalbek, Sacsayhuaman
=========================Postby Lloyd » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:19 pm
__POST-FLOOD RESETTLEMENT
After the Cataclysm
HTML http://beforeus.com
-NOAH'S ARK.
The Great Pyramid’s latitude (30 degrees 00 minutes north) is
precisely an “ark’s length and height” south of the remains of
Noah’s Ark (39 degrees 26 minutes north) in Turkey (Persian
Triangle Mystery).
-[ANCIENT] GLOBAL EXPLORATION AND SETTLEMENT
Surviving today are portions of ancient world maps drawn by
surveying parties before, during and after the Ice Age (See
Appendix 2). At least two - the Piri Reis and Reinal - were
based on a circular projection with the focal point in Egypt.
(a) the Great Flood (2345 to 2344 BC),
(b) the founding of Egypt (2250 to 2188 BC) and
(c) the Great Pyramid (2144 BC)
-EGYPT. “INCH” AND “CUBIT” LINK. In Egypt, the royal cubit of
20.6 inches is well known. The British inch is derived from the
pyramid inch. One pyramid inch equals 1.0011 British inches, one
500-millionth part of the earth’s polar axis. The royal Egyptian
cubit and the inch have a relationship called the Golden Ratio.
-A wreck in Turkey, believed to be the Ark, has seven examples
of this .618 ratio (Jonathan Gray, The Ark Conspiracy, Chapter
8). The pre-Flood cubit used in the Ark was taken to Egypt to
become the royal Egyptian cubit. It was Mizraim, Noah’s
grandson, who founded Egypt.
-The Great Pyramid accurately stands in the centre of the land
surface of the earth as it NOW exists and marks both the
longitude and latitude at which there is more land and less sea
than at any other coordinates on earth.
-WHY WERE THE PYRAMID’S BUILDERS FORGOTTEN?
1. THE BUILDERS WERE NOT EGYPTIAN. 2. HISTORICAL ACCURACY WAS
NOT A PRIORITY. 3. AMID ENVIRONMENTAL TRAUMA, MUCH CULTURE WAS
FORGOTTEN. There was a sudden, dramatic drop in the human life
span, as recorded by the ancient Chinese and the Hebrews (See
The Corpse Came Back, chapter 18). Much earlier knowledge was
quickly lost. The few Flood survivors, although bringing with
them knowledge from the pre-Flood world, were too few in number
to put most of it to practical use immediately. Population
growth was rapid, so Two hundred years was all it needed [to
re-establish civilization].
-BABYLON. Sumerian tradition preserved two lists of “kings” who
reigned before the Flood. One contained eight names, as does the
family tree of Cain, [and] the other ten names, as does the
family tree of Genesis 5. After Alexander the Great had defeated
Darius in 331 BC, he journeyed to Babylon and his scholars
learned about the 1903 years of astronomical observations from
the Chaldeans of Babylon. That placed the founding of Babylon at
2234 BC (Martin Anstey, The Romance of Bible Chronology. 1913,
p.92). This is uncannily close to the biblical date for the
Tower of Babel (c. 2244 BC).
=========================Postby Lloyd » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:52 am
__HUMAN MIGRATION
When I looked at that map, it looked to me like the origin could
have been Asia Minor as much as Africa. There are arrows
pointing in that direction, Asia Minor to Africa, as well as
Asia Minor to everywhere else. Besides, Egypt is in Africa and
it's at least as old as Sumer, I've read. Both places seem to be
origins.
--------------------Postby Grey Cloud » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:41 pm
Indus Valley civilisation is as old as Egypt and Sumer.
Most of the peoples who invaded/entered the Middle East seem to
have originated somewhere in Eurasia. Where they hit the Middle
East depended on which way they moved around the Caspian and/or
the Black Sea. The various mountain ranges extending west from
Iran to the Aegean play a big part too - only so many places
they can be crossed.
--------------------Postby Brigit Bara » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:59
am
The so-called 'dark age' is the result of the refusal by
academics to ever acknowledge the seafaring civilisation of the
Canaanites/Phoenicians.
The ancient world during 1700-722 BC was very well-connected
through extensive sea trade. The shipping lanes connected the
Baltic, British Isles, Africa and India with the Mediterranean.
This vibrant trade between nations, languages and tribes was
accomplished mainly by the Canaanites/Phoenicians--who also
developed the alphabet and the first books. This is the world of
the Old Testament. It was a highly interconnected world. For
example, there are faience beads and also necklaces which are of
the Mycenaean style in Wessex burial sites showing that trade
was already developed in the north in 1450 BC. Tyre and Sidon
were great seafaring cities and are some of the most mentioned
people in the Old Testament.
The enormous blind-spot exhibited towards the Phoenicians is
merely academic tradition.
That reminds me, I was delighted by Lloyd's mention of the
possibility of Canaanite trade in the New World.
--------------------Postby Brigit Bara » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:35
pm
Claude Schaeffer...archaeologist whose excavation of the ancient
city of Ugarit at Ras Shamra Syria, disclosed a succession of
culture from about 1195 BC back to the 6th and 7th millenia BC.
...He found that Ugarit, a coastal city and port in ancient
times, was quite cosmopolitan; in various periods it showed
evidence of cultural influence from Egyptian, Mesopotamian,
Hittite and Mediterannean civilizations.
The tablets included texts of literary works of considerable
sophistication and originality that also helped to establish the
Canaanite origin of the stories of the Patriarchs in the Bible.
--------------------Postby Brigit Bara » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:25
pm
Because of Schaeffer's work in more widely distributed areas, he
was able to see common stratigraphy between the locations.
The significance of this development for accurate dating is
astonishing to think about.
First, this may throw an enormous spanner in the academic dating
traditions, who -- due to their own biases -- relate all dates
to Classical Greek and Egyptian civilizations. That in itself is
an enormous problem because if they have Greek and Egyptian
dates wrong, the entire system falls.
Next, the disasters which befell these ancient cities left
layers in the record which can be harmonized over wide areas.
With today's electron microscope technologies, depositions can
be identified with confidence, because as we know every volcano
or high-temperature event leaves its own fingerprint, which is
unlike that of any other volcano or high-temperature event.
And Claude Schaeffer was firm in his conviction: he had
identified a precise year for the 1195 BC destruction of Ugarit.
__SABOTAGE
- “SCHOLARS” SABOTAGE ANCIENT DOCUMENTS: The Turin Papyrus was
prepared during the late 18th Dynasty of the Pharaohs and
included lists of all the kings of every dynasty of ancient
Egypt through to the 18th Dynasty. This papyrus was found during
a temple excavation in the 19th century. The King of Sardinia
carefully preserved it and entrusted it to some “scholars” at
Turin for translation. The “scholars” destroyed or hid most of
it, apparently because it proved the “LONG dynastic” history of
Egypt to be UNTRUE!
-The Palermo Stone contained a similar list. “unapproved
researchers” can have access to only a few fragments. It is
obvious that the stone was broken recently.
__ELONGATED SKULLS
Also - see the practice of elongating the skull. It's spread all
over the world. Perhaps the ancient "gods" had those elongated
skulls, and natives were trying to imitate:
HTML http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2509436/The-1-650-year-old-French-aristocrats-skull-deliberately-deformed.html
The 1,650-year-old skull of aristocrat that was deliberately
deformed to show her family's wealth is unearthed in France
Such an idea: "lets tie the child's head so it elongates!" does
not come easily, and everywhere at once:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation
The practice of intentional cranial deformation is believed to
predate written history; it was practised commonly in a number
of cultures that are widely separated geographically and
chronologically, and still occurs today in a few places,
including Vanuatu.
--------------------Postby Roshi » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:52 am
__ELONGATED SKULLS
The artificial cranial deformation is spread all over the world,
and it's 10 times more strange than the fact that there are
similar flood stories all over the world. This not a simple
thing to do, it can't just be listened to and passed on like a
myth about the flood.
This practice existed in Europe, Africa, the Americas, Oceania.
It's source cannot be just an idea everyone got at random - or
the slow spreading of the custom from tribe to tribe - that is
crazy. Tribes don't just copy customs like that (and this is a
radical custom). It's origin must be ancient, in the
antediluvian world, that was a global civilization, connected by
ships (or flying ships) - and ruled by "gods" with long heads.
As we see some pharaohs represented.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation
HTML https://hiddenincatours.com/elongated-skulls-of-paracas-a-people-and-their-world/
Mainstream "explanations":
HTML http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141013-why-we-reshape-childrens-skulls
Skull modification might have been done with the aim of making
males look more masculine
Head shaping seems to be a human cultural achievement rooting in
the belief in an 'unfinished self
HTML http://users.rider.edu/~suler/zenstory/ritualcat.html
--------------------Postby seasmith » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:04 pm
the Hed¡jet:
A rock-solid clue to the origin of tall head, before coming
south to pharaonize Egypt-
Narmerhead.jpg
HTML http://www.thunderbolts.inf
o/forum/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3357&t=1
click to enlarge
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Narmer_Palette_smiting_side.jpg
--------------------Postby Roshi » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:00 am
__ANCIENT ALIENS
Conclusion: there existed and "antedeluvian" civilization. This
civilization was responsible for the pyramids and all other
strange ruins. It was lead by red haired "gods" -
extraterestrials. People all over the world tried to imitate
them by elongating the skulls of children. Look at the
representation of ancient pharaohs and their long heads. This
civilization was global. Check the stories about **** found in
Egyptian mummies, and the red hair of Ramses:
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II
Microscopic inspection of the roots of Ramesses II's hair proved
that the king's hair was originally red, which suggests that he
came from a family of redheads.[68] This has more than just
cosmetic significance: in ancient Egypt people with red hair
were associated with the god Seth, the slayer of Osiris
Also see the stories about "sons of god" that came to earth and
married human women, who then gave birth to "giants".
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_%28mythology%29
Genesis 6:4-5 tells of the Nephilim before and after the Flood.
According to Genesis 7:23, the Nephilim were destroyed in the
Flood, but Nephilim are reported after the Flood
--------------------Postby GaryN » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:18 pm
__BABEL
The Great Mystery raised the sun to its present height and, with
an earthquake, destroyed the tower that Montezuma was building
into the heavens, in the process changing languages so that
people could no longer understand animals or other tribes.
That's interesting, the story of Babel. Now how did that find
its way to Arizona, and when?
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