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       #Post#: 111014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN for dog walker not carrying a poo bag
   DIR By: Glitch
       Date: February 24, 2026, 11:20 am
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       > Obligations on persons with dogs:
       > 4. Fouling
       >
       > If a dog defecates at any time on land specified in the
       Schedule to this Order a person who is in charge of the dog at
       the time must remove the faeces from the land forthwith unless -
       >
       > (a) he has reasonable excuse for failing to do so; or
       > (b) the owner, occupier or other person or authority having
       control of the land has consented (generally or specifically) to
       his failing to do so.
       >
       > 5. Means to pick up
       >
       > A person in charge of a dog on land specified in the Schedule
       to this Order must have with him an appropriate means to pick up
       dog faeces deposited by that dog forthwith unless :-
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       > (a)    he has reasonable excuse for failing to do so; or
       > (b)    the owner, occupier or other person or authority having
       control of the land has consented (generally or specifically) to
       his failing to do so.
       >
       > The obligation is complied with if, after a request from an
       authorised officer or constable, the person in charge of the dog
       produces an appropriate means to pick up dog faeces.
       >
       > Exemptions
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       > Nothing in this Order shall apply to a disabled person (within
       the meaning of the Equality Act 2010) whose disability restricts
       his ability to comply with the Order and the dog is their guide
       dog or assistance dog.
       >
       > For the purpose of this Order:
       > (a)    Restricted Area means the land designated in the
       Schedule to this Order.
       > (b)    A person who habitually has a dog in his possession
       shall be taken to be in charge of the dog at any time unless at
       that time some other person is in charge of the dog.
       > (c)    Placing the faeces in a receptacle on the land which is
       provided for the purpose, or for the disposal of waste, shall be
       sufficient removal from the land.
       > (d)    Being unaware of the defecation (whether by reason of
       not being in the vicinity or otherwise) shall not be a
       reasonable excuse for failing to remove the faeces.
       > (e)    "an authorised officer " means an employee, partnership
       agency or contractor of Manchester City Council who is
       authorised in writing by Manchester City Council for the
       purposes of giving directions under the Order.
       > (f)    An assistance dog, in general, is one that is trained
       to aid or assist a disabled person.
       > (g)    An appropriate means is defined as any poop scoop bag,
       disposal bag or other suitable container for disposal of dog
       faeces. By way of guidance a trouser or coat or other pocket is
       not such an item. Neither is a handbag, rucksack, purse or
       sports bag.
       --- End Quote ---
       They seem to be very specific about what is not an appropriate
       means, therefore hat and sock would definitely be worth arguing
       over.
       #Post#: 111016--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN for dog walker not carrying a poo bag
   DIR By: Glitch
       Date: February 24, 2026, 11:35 am
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       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
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       > Presumably under the "reasonable excuse" provision you could
       argue that you had used the two bags you brought with you and
       the dog never usually craps more than twice. I don't know if you
       could use the same provision to argue that your dog only craps
       in your back garden and never in the street.
       >
       > I'm glad I don't own a dog.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It'll be interesting to hear the different excuses people come
       up with. Sounds like a minefield.
       Always carry several poo bags.
       Speaking from experience, scraping up dog diarrhea from tarmac
       leaves residue. Does that mean a fine?
       Owning a dog can be a real PITA at times, but overall me and the
       missus find it very rewarding. Certainly gets me out every day.
       #Post#: 111079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN for dog walker not carrying a poo bag
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: February 25, 2026, 4:09 am
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       Have we got a link to this video? Generally I work on the basis
       that everything on the internet is bollox unless a) I know it is
       coming from a reputable site/source and b) it is proven
       otherwise.
       #Post#: 111092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FPN for dog walker not carrying a poo bag
   DIR By: Glitch
       Date: February 25, 2026, 5:12 am
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       Here you go.
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