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#Post#: 110590--------------------------------------------------
Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Duck
Date: February 21, 2026, 10:31 am
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I received a PCN from Civil Enforcement
(
HTML https://www.ce-service.co.uk/)
and its the increased PCN of £70
and I have lost the time to appeal as the incident date was 2
months ago. I tried to appeal on the website but it says the
time has passed. I did not receive the original lower rate PCN
and I have only ever received the higher rate PCN.
The driver was sat in the car for 20 minutes and left. I am the
registered keeper and they have addressed the PCN to me.
As I cannot appeal because the website wont let me, is the only
option I have to ignore the letter? Any advice?
I was thinking of sending a letter to their address stating the
following:
Dear Sir/Madam
In reference to PCN number XXXX.
I appeal as keeper. I am not obliged to identify the driver and
I decline to do so.
You are unable to transfer liability to the keeper pursuant to
Schedule 4 to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('POFA')
because Crumpsall Vale is not ‘relevant land’ as defined in
POFA.
Even if (which is not the case) the land in question is relevant
land your notice does not conform to the requirements set out in
POFA paragraphs 9(2)(e) and (f).
Furthermore, as keeper I am entitled to all the defences
available to the driver including (without limitation) the
following:
The parking charge is not notified until after the contract is
entered into and under the principles set out by the Court of
Appeal in Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking, does not form part of
the contract between the driver and yourselves;
The signage is not compliant with the BPA Code of Practice;
Any one of the above reasons is alone sufficient to require
cancellation of the PCN
Therefore I require you to cancel the PCN and delete my personal
data from your records.
Please send me confirmation of the cancellation of the PCN
Kind regards
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: jfollows
Date: February 21, 2026, 10:45 am
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Why is it not ‘relevant land’?
Sitting in a car does not mean that the car is not ‘parked’.
Your link is not a link to your PCN.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/<br
/>might be helpful.
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Duck
Date: February 21, 2026, 10:49 am
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Sorry Ive just used a template ive had before no idea how else
to approach this.
I dont have a link to the pcn it was a letter, thats just a link
to the website of the parking charge people.
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Brenda_R2
Date: February 21, 2026, 10:52 am
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--- Quote from: Duck link ---
>
> Sorry Ive just used a template ive had before no idea how else
to approach this.
>
> I dont have a link to the pcn it was a letter, thats just a
link to the website of the parking charge people.
>
--- End Quote ---
You need to scan the postal PCN you received if you want help.
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Duck
Date: February 21, 2026, 11:00 am
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Hey ive just done an upload of the letter
HTML https://ibb.co/23M4yjGW
can you see it?
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: jfollows
Date: February 21, 2026, 11:05 am
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Yes.
Is this North Manchester General Hospital?
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Duck
Date: February 21, 2026, 11:15 am
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Its behind it there is another medical unit called Crumpsall
Vale. Its part of their car park.
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: jfollows
Date: February 21, 2026, 11:17 am
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If it’s a hospital car park then it’s likely that it is
‘relevant land’ under PoFA 2012.
Land which is not ‘relevant land’ is usually land covered by
bylaws which include railway land before December 2025, ports,
airports, but not hospitals.
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Re: Civil Enforcement PCN Appeal Date Passed
DIR By: Duck
Date: February 21, 2026, 11:33 am
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Do you recommend i cut the relevant land point and leave the
rest?
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