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#Post#: 117860--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 5, 2026, 6:07 pm
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I'm puzzled.At the stage you are at, (submitted reps but got no
Notice of Rejection), the regulations state that the enforcing
authority must pass the matter to the adjudicators for a
decision.Is there anything about this in what you have received
?
See Regulation 23(7)&(8) in The Civil Enforcement of Road
Traffic Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines
and General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022
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> (7) Where a witness statement is served including a statement
under paragraph (2)(b), (c) or (d), the enforcement authority
must refer the case to the adjudicator.
>
> (8) Where a case is referred to the adjudicator—
> (a)the adjudicator may give P and the enforcement authority
(“the parties”) such directions as the adjudicator considers
appropriate in the circumstances, and
> (b)the parties must comply with those directions.
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 117863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: Neil B
Date: May 5, 2026, 6:36 pm
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It would help if we could read what you've described as "Reissue
of letter" because the link you have labelled "FRONT" doesn't
work.
It might explain where you are getting new deadline dates from,
which, incidentally, you got wrong for the original PCN so best
we see the new letter.
@ Incandescent.
They appear to be following the standing 'directions', issued by
the tribunal in 2016.
#Post#: 117877--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:31 am
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> It would help if we could read what you've described as
"Reissue of letter" because the link you have labelled "FRONT"
doesn't work.
> It might explain where you are getting new deadline dates
from, which, incidentally, you got wrong for the original PCN so
best we see the new letter.
>
> @ Incandescent.
> They appear to be following the standing 'directions', issued
by the tribunal in 2016.
>
--- End Quote ---
Ah, right. So the OP now has the rejection letter and can now
decide whether to pay-up, or register a case at London
Tribunals.
#Post#: 117880--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:42 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=Neil B link=topic=9988.msg117863#msg117863
date=1778024173]
> It would help if we could read what you've described as
"Reissue of letter" because the link you have labelled "FRONT"
doesn't work.
> It might explain where you are getting new deadline dates
from, which, incidentally, you got wrong for the original PCN so
best we see the new letter.
>
> @ Incandescent.
> They appear to be following the standing 'directions', issued
by the tribunal in 2016.
>
--- End Quote ---
Ah, right. So the OP now has the rejection letter and can now
decide whether to pay-up, or register a case at London
Tribunals.
[/quote]
Yep, that's correct.
Oh gosh, I'll edit the post with the correct hyperlink to show
the first page now.
#Post#: 117881--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 6, 2026, 4:45 am
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--- Quote from: Neil B link ---
>
> It would help if we could read what you've described as
"Reissue of letter" because the link you have labelled "FRONT"
doesn't work.
> It might explain where you are getting new deadline dates
from, which, incidentally, you got wrong for the original PCN so
best we see the new letter.
>
> @ Incandescent.
> They appear to be following the standing 'directions', issued
by the tribunal in 2016.
>
--- End Quote ---
Correct LINK HERE for the first 'front' page
HTML https://ibb.co/8n8RV9xVof
the reissue letter that I messed up
earlier (unable to edit the post above). Thanks for highlighting
my error.
First page of the Reissue of Letter
HTML https://ibb.co/8n8RV9xV
#Post#: 117888--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 6, 2026, 5:40 am
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This would appear to be the current Practice Direction:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf
Paras 10 and 11 would seem to apply:
Re-service of Notice of Rejection after a Ground 2 [made reps
but did not receive a NOR] Declaration
10. The Authority may re-serve the Notice of Rejection on the
Declarant and allow a further 28
days to appeal. To comply with the Regulations, the Authority is
required to refer the
declaration to the Adjudicator under these circumstances, even
though no action is required
of the Adjudicator.
11. Where the Authority has re-served a Notice of Rejection
after a Ground 2 Declaration in line
with the process described in the paragraph above, and the
Declarant appeals against the re-
served Notice of Rejection, the Authority should ensure that the
case summary indicates
that there had been re-service. The date of the re-service must
be indicated in the
verification code and the Notice of Appeal form to enable the
Proper Officer to ascertain
whether the appeals are made in time.
OP, pl clarify who's who here because earlier you wrote: and
Brent have since sent correspondence to the driver and it
contains a copy of the NoR.
The driver has nothing to do with this process: it is owner
liability i.e. the registered keeper.
So pl clarify who's who.
#Post#: 117983--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 6, 2026, 5:24 pm
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So sorry for the confusion earlier; I should have been clearer.
The “owner” and the “driver” are the same person in this case ,
as he is the registered keeper and was driving his own vehicle
at the time of the alleged contravention.
I’m not directly involved in the situation.. just helping the
fella out.
#Post#: 119268--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 19, 2026, 5:59 pm
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So the 14 days to cough up the discounted rate have passed..
I'd like to start writing the appeal where I give reasons,
citing:
* Poor weather conditions and visibility.
* Brent didn't even acknowledge my views re. visibility in the
NoR
* I've just found on here THIS POST no.9
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/london-borough-of-brent-31-yellow-box-junction-salusbury-rd-jw-hartland-rd-nw6/talking<br
/>about the yellow box spec (chuck this in too to make the case
stronger?!) its Post no.9 (talking about box size and wording
* Box size issue highlighted HERE see Post no.12
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=262;area=showposts;start=0
Is this valid enough for tribunal?
Any advice gratefully received, much appreciated.
#Post#: 119269--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 19, 2026, 6:31 pm
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Nowhere in this thread have I seen any reference to the video,
which is their sole evidence. Has the video been viewed at all ?
It's normally viewable on their website by quoting PCN Number
and car reg.
Always remember that the contravention is entering the box and
having to stop due to the presence of stationary vehicles. Does
the video show this ?
#Post#: 119272--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 20, 2026, 1:06 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Nowhere in this thread have I seen any reference to the video,
which is their sole evidence. Has the video been viewed at all ?
It's normally viewable on their website by quoting PCN Number
and car reg.
> Always remember that the contravention is entering the box and
having to stop due to the presence of stationary vehicles. Does
the video show this ?
>
--- End Quote ---
Ahhhhhh...yes, the video does show the car entering the box and
stopping when another car was in there already. However, the
junction box was not visible due to the poor weather conditions
as it was daek and raining, can just about make it out on the
VIDEO HERE.
HTML https://limewire.com/d/nv9fO#2hbS9rD84W
No traffic was
obstructed of that helps (probably doesn't!) Feel like im
clutching at straps now(!)
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