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#Post#: 110540--------------------------------------------------
Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 20, 2026, 4:05 pm
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Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Rd/ Hartland Rd NW6
PCN info can be found HERE on the Brent portal
HTML https://brent.tarantoportal.com/PCN/
PCN number BT27063176
VRM LD25XAZ
PCN Front
HTML https://ibb.co/HT6LHzQpand
Back
HTML https://ibb.co/TBDXJn3cand
Last
HTML https://ibb.co/wZnSvkKt
Charge Certificate Front
HTML https://ibb.co/HT6LHzQpand
Back
HTML https://ibb.co/wZnSvkKt
Reps 4 screenshots 1
HTML https://ibb.co/S4MBWY8L,
2
HTML https://ibb.co/6RFv01CB,
3
HTML https://ibb.co/N6gRMj26
and 4
HTML https://ibb.co/TqTC4cMj
Key Events Timeline
HTML https://ibb.co/YB7stybh
GSV HERE
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/kEnQ9W228CegCbEa8
I’m looking for some advice regarding a Brent Council yellow box
PCN please.
Representations were submitted online on 18/11/2025 (the last
permitted day). An auto acknowledgement email was received, but
nothing further was ever sent from Brent via post nor email (no
Notice of Rejection, nothing at all).
Out of the blue, a Charge Certificate has now arrived increasing
the amount to £240 (received today)
This is a tad fishy (not getting mail from Brent) because
something very similar happened recently to an elderly friend
(posted his issue HERE
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/53j-brent-council-no-nto-charge-cert-received-14day-deadline-tomorrow-but-letter/msg109265/#msg109265)<br
/>he also made representations and never received a response
before a Charge Certificate was issued. Could 'this' be a thing
- an attemp to prevent the public from raising pcn issues at
adjudication?! ....Anyway....
With this current one,
Reps were made in time
No Notice of Rejection was received
No opportunity to appeal to the tribunal was given
Now a Charge Certificate has been served
The driver maintains that at the time of the alleged
contravention the weather was extremely heavy rain (chucking it
down- as per cctv footage) with poor visibility. He has since
revisited the location and taken photographs a- Do the lines
look OK to you guys?
First Pic
HTML https://ibb.co/PGzRC4H5,
Second Pic
HTML https://ibb.co/tTr77f6P,
Third Pic
HTML https://ibb.co/DPj8QWk2
- He couldn't see them in heavy rain
Please can you advise on the next steps?
(Do you think he has a good argument? is there any possibility
he could be let off as have since uncovered a similar one I've
just come across from the PAST
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=262;area=showposts;start=15)<br
/>Looks like the pcn wording and the box is iffy.. d'oh!
#Post#: 110542--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 20, 2026, 4:17 pm
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Ignore this comment - can't figure out what I've done and how to
get rid of this reply box!
#Post#: 110550--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 20, 2026, 6:23 pm
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There is a final stage of the enforcement process after the
Charge Certificate stage, which is when the council register the
debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (a court with no courts
or judges !). When they do this, they must send you an Order for
Recovery in the post. This will also include the form for
submitting a Statutory Declaration on which you can state that
you submitted representations, but did not receive a rejection.
TEC will then cancel the Charge Certificate and the Order for
Recovery, and the matter reverts to where you left of, having
submitted representations. The council are informed and must
then pass the matter to the adjudicators for a decision. Do note
that the PCN remains outstanding.
So, do not pay the Charge Certificate (CC) or it's game over.
However, you must now become proactive. When the period for
payment of the CC expires the council can then register the
debt, but can be tardy in doing so. You should receive the OfR
in the post, but even so, phone TEC about every 7-10 days to
find out if the PCN has been registered. ONce it has you can
submit your Statutory Declaration. This needs to be witnessed,
signed and dated either for a small fee and a solicitors or free
at your local county court. This may seem to be a bit daunting
but it's totally routine, with TEC processing many thousands a
year. You can even download the form (PE3) from their website:
-
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pe3-challenge-an-unpaid-penalty-charge-notice
#Post#: 110551--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: MrChips
Date: February 20, 2026, 6:39 pm
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What is labelled the front of the PCN is actually the charge
certificate. Please could you provide a link to the original PCN
front page.
Having viewed the video footage, the box junction markings are
barely visible in the rain from the high vantage point of the
camera, so probably even harder to see at driver level.
Definitely worth raising when you get this PCN reset. The video
shows a clear box junction contravention however so any defence
will need to be either on the poorly marked lines or in respect
of PCN defects which we can check out once you provide a link.
#Post#: 110581--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 21, 2026, 8:04 am
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--- Quote from: MrChips link ---
>
> What is labelled the front of the PCN is actually the charge
certificate. Please could you provide a link to the original PCN
front page.
>
> Having viewed the video footage, the box junction markings are
barely visible in the rain from the high vantage point of the
camera, so probably even harder to see at driver level.
Definitely worth raising when you get this PCN reset. The video
shows a clear box junction contravention however so any defence
will need to be either on the poorly marked lines or in respect
of PCN defects which we can check out once you provide a link.
>
--- End Quote ---
My apologies MrChips- I have indeed put the CC on where the PCN
should have been and unfortunately unable to edit the original
post.
The correct document is linked HERE - This shows the first page
of the PCN
HTML https://ibb.co/JR6hzxXH.
#Post#: 110585--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 21, 2026, 8:27 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> There is a final stage of the enforcement process after the
Charge Certificate stage, which is when the council register the
debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre, (a court with no courts
or judges !). When they do this, they must send you an Order for
Recovery in the post. This will also include the form for
submitting a Statutory Declaration on which you can state that
you submitted representations, but did not receive a rejection.
TEC will then cancel the Charge Certificate and the Order for
Recovery, and the matter reverts to where you left of, having
submitted representations. The council are informed and must
then pass the matter to the adjudicators for a decision. Do note
that the PCN remains outstanding.
>
> So, do not pay the Charge Certificate (CC) or it's game over.
However, you must now become proactive. When the period for
payment of the CC expires the council can then register the
debt, but can be tardy in doing so. You should receive the OfR
in the post, but even so, phone TEC about every 7-10 days to
find out if the PCN has been registered. ONce it has you can
submit your Statutory Declaration. This needs to be witnessed,
signed and dated either for a small fee and a solicitors or free
at your local county court. This may seem to be a bit daunting
but it's totally routine, with TEC processing many thousands a
year. You can even download the form (PE3) from their website:
-
>
>
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pe3-challenge-an-unpaid-penalty-charge-notice
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you so much for the guidance. Will definitely let him know
to NOT pay.
The date 14days after the CC expires 05.03.25 so will make note
of that. Seeing no postal correspondence has been received thus
far, will ensure to stay alert and call the Traffic Enforcement
Centre regularly thereafter. However, if No letter is received
from Brent, is the printable form enough to take the next step
(after the debt has been registered ofcourse)?
#Post#: 110622--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 21, 2026, 3:33 pm
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Once the debt is registered at TEC, and you don't receive an OfR
in reasonable time, you can download the form from TEC. Indeed,
as there is only a limited time from the OfR to respond, you
need to be prepared to do this. I would download the form from
TEC and get it ready for signing, dating, and witnessing.
#Post#: 114420--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: March 25, 2026, 4:00 pm
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The debt has finally been registered (as confirmed by a quick
telephone call this morning) and Form PE3 had been printed while
ago so will secure an appointment for it to be witnessed at the
relevant court.
Please can you confirm if the following is OK to write in the
'My reasons are' (give full reasons) box
I, xxxxx of xxxxx solemnly and sincerely declare that I made
representations to Brent Council in respect of the above Penalty
Charge Notice but did not receive a Notice of Rejection.
I became aware that the matter had progressed upon receipt of
the Charge Certificate.
I make this declaration believing the contents to be true.
Is the above sufficient?
#Post#: 114499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: Neil B
Date: March 26, 2026, 11:51 am
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--- Quote from: GirlFriday link ---
>
> I made representations to Brent Council in respect of the
above Penalty Charge Notice but did not receive a Notice of
Rejection.
>
--- End Quote ---
You don't need to write anything at all in the reasons box but
if you insist then just the above is enough.
And tick the box that says the same.
#Post#: 117852--------------------------------------------------
Re: Charge Notice - Code 31 Yellow Box BRENT Salusbury Road/
Hartland Road NW6
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: May 5, 2026, 4:33 pm
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Evening all! (I'm back again with updates..and in need of
further advice please)
The PCN has been reset by Brent (after receiving the required
nod from the TEC) and Brent have since sent correspondence to
the driver and it contains a copy of the NoR (which was never
initially received). Had a look through it and noticed that
Brent haven't even acknowledged the main point made in the
original representations where the driver explicitly raised the
issue of poor visibility due to the weather (heavy rain) and
lighting conditions at 19:20hrs (dark - sunset was at 16:40hrs)
. The NoR fails to address this point in any meaningful way and
instead it looks as if they've relied on generic reasoning.
I noted from the cctv driver was sat in the YBJ for approx
13seconds (but hadn't blocked any traffic as no car approached
from the left to join the main road). The fine is back at £80 if
paid before the 14days .. and if appealing, to do that within
28days (last day Monday 26.05.26)
Reps are in the 1st [original post above, and the newer stuff
below-
Reissue of Letter FRONT
HTML http://
HTML https://ibb.co/8n8RV9xV
and BACK
HTML https://ibb.co/209rj6zx
Notice of Rejection FRONT
HTML https://ibb.co/WptgK91tand
BACK
HTML https://ibb.co/Cp0HLVX2and
LAST
HTML https://ibb.co/zhvvf2gy
Appeal Papers
HTML https://ibb.co/Pv8gxG2wunsure
why there are two sets of the same
thing..
Would really appreciate any hints/ tips on how to proceed....
and some general guidance to please!
Thanking in advance.
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