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#Post#: 110384--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: February 19, 2026, 12:08 pm
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Horizon won't have recorded a video - there will be the PCN and
stills from an ANPR camera.
Even if the driver said they were the driver and submitted an
SAR, Horizon could still not show them the PCN, as the PCN
wouldn't at face value contain any of the driver's personal data
(the address being the company address, and any details relating
to the vehicle likewise being the company's).
The company's best bet is to draft a defence on the information
available - we can help with this. I'll try and find a Horizon
PCN from around that time to see if it was before or after they
started getting the wording right to hold the vehicle keeper
liable (I suspect not).
Absence of loss is not the right argument. Horizon aren't
claiming to have suffered a loss as such, they're claiming the
driver entered into a contract whereby he became liable to pay
them a parking charge, has not done so, and they are therefore
owed money.
A better argument, based on the information we have so far,
would seem to be that the terms and conditions were not breached
and accordingly no money is owed.
Do you have (or can you easily get) photos of the signage? I
realise it might have changed since the date of the event, but
it's better than nothing.
#Post#: 110410--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: February 19, 2026, 5:31 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> Horizon won't have recorded a video - there will be the PCN
and stills from an ANPR camera.
>
> Even if the driver said they were the driver and submitted an
SAR, Horizon could still not show them the PCN, as the PCN
wouldn't at face value contain any of the driver's personal data
(the address being the company address, and any details relating
to the vehicle likewise being the company's).
>
> The company's best bet is to draft a defence on the
information available - we can help with this. I'll try and find
a Horizon PCN from around that time to see if it was before or
after they started getting the wording right to hold the vehicle
keeper liable (I suspect not).
>
> Absence of loss is not the right argument. Horizon aren't
claiming to have suffered a loss as such, they're claiming the
driver entered into a contract whereby he became liable to pay
them a parking charge, has not done so, and they are therefore
owed money.
>
> A better argument, based on the information we have so far,
would seem to be that the terms and conditions were not breached
and accordingly no money is owed.
>
> Do you have (or can you easily get) photos of the signage? I
realise it might have changed since the date of the event, but
it's better than nothing.
>
--- End Quote ---
I see that argument makes sense because a shop was completed and
a voucher was obtained at the time. Will it be a problem that
they no longer have the voucher or would proof from a bank
statement be enough.
I've got the photos. Please let me know if this has worked
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/rp3ybC8_xl.jpeg
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/RHfFYwX_xl.jpeg
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/8IhsMOY_xl.jpeg
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/6ovk6q2_xl.jpeg
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/dAFSkLo_xl.jpeg
Also, from what I can see on google maps the signage does not
look like it has changed.
#Post#: 110411--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: February 19, 2026, 5:35 pm
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Also, I forgot to add the shop which issued the voucher in this
case is "Maja Chelmsford -Polski sklep".
This is also the first time this happened to the driver and they
parked there numerous times.
#Post#: 111311--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: February 27, 2026, 4:00 am
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Hi there,
Do the pictures provide anything useful? Do you think there is a
chance of success at court?
#Post#: 111312--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Dave65
Date: February 27, 2026, 4:12 am
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Just jumped in here,
Is the vehicle leased or rented?
#Post#: 111338--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: February 27, 2026, 6:22 am
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Company owned
#Post#: 111558--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: February 28, 2026, 1:20 pm
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Any assistance on the way the defence needs to be drafted is
greatly appreciated.
#Post#: 112465--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: March 8, 2026, 3:58 pm
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Hi All,
Does anyone think that there is a chance of winning this?
Also, if it goes to court would I (third party) be allowed to
attend and speak or would that be limited to the two employees
of the business? It's my understanding that in cases of
companies even if they are tiny the court expects a solicitor to
be hired but is that mandatory as a defendant?
#Post#: 112491--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: March 9, 2026, 2:44 am
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Any chance we can see the original PCN please?
There could well be no path to liability.
#Post#: 112579--------------------------------------------------
Re: Horizon Parking Limited - Claim Form Received - Provident
Square Chelmsford
DIR By: Joeshdeli
Date: March 9, 2026, 2:05 pm
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Unfortunately they threw the original away. I've been informed
that they wouldn't need to provide it as the keeper is a
business.
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