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International Driver PCN?
DIR By: Spinstorm
Date: November 21, 2023, 6:57 am
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Hi,
My relative from the US was driving a couple of my cars during
the end of October/start Nov and unfortunately got two PCNs from
ParkingEye.
In both cases, I provided his details and US address. The first
case they have sent me a letter to confirm they have reissued it
to him.
Can they chase him in the US if he doesn't pay? I have removed
my liability by giving his details but he wants to know if he
should pay or not.
Thanks
#Post#: 10820--------------------------------------------------
Re: International Driver PCN?
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 21, 2023, 7:20 am
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> Can they chase him in the US if he doesn't pay?
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I am unaware of any legal mechanism through which they could
force him to pay if he is a US resident with no financial ties
in the UK (although my lack of awareness of one does not mean
there is an absence of one). Realistically, I'd say it's
unlikely - even if such a mechanism existed there's a fair
chance it'd cost far more than the value of the charge and thus
not be worth their while.
#Post#: 11349--------------------------------------------------
Re: International Driver PCN?
DIR By: Nosy Parker
Date: November 27, 2023, 1:29 am
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There are mechanisms for serving UK legal proceedings outside
the jurisdiction but for small claims the costs of doing so are
prohibitive, so I can’t imagine the parking company will go down
that route.
#Post#: 11357--------------------------------------------------
Re: International Driver PCN?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 27, 2023, 4:34 am
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Wrong question or correct question but posed prematurely IMO:
My relative from the US was driving a couple of my cars during
the end of October/start Nov and unfortunately got two PCNs from
ParkingEye.
In both cases, I provided his details and US address. The first
case they have sent me a letter to confirm they have reissued it
to him.
Can they chase him in the US if he doesn't pay? I have removed
my liability by giving his details but he wants to know if he
should pay or not.
A NTK must...
e)state that the creditor does not know both the name of the
driver and a current address for service for the driver and
invite the keeper—
(i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; or
(ii)if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify
the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for
service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver;
(f)warn the keeper that if, after the period of 28 days
beginning with the day after that on which the notice is given—
(i)the amount of the unpaid parking charges specified under
paragraph (d) has not been paid in full, and
(ii)the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a
current address for service for the driver,
the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this
Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so
much of that amount as remains unpaid;
current address for service” means—
(a)......or
(b)in the case of the driver, an address at which the driver for
the time being resides or can conveniently be contacted;
Have you sent copies of the PCN to the driver?
Just because you've given the creditor a person's details
doesn't mean that they have given up on you IMO. If the driver
fails to acknowledge the PCN then the creditor could come back
to you and say that you gave them bogus info and IMO they could
attempt to pursue you instead.
IMO, what you need is something from the driver which makes it
clear to the creditor that they were driving but says they're
not going to pay. This could let you off the hook procedurally
because then the creditor is faced with an admission but the
dilemma of how to pursue, a question you leapt to while missing
out very important intermediate steps!
#Post#: 11437--------------------------------------------------
Re: International Driver PCN?
DIR By: Nosy Parker
Date: November 28, 2023, 2:34 am
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Agreed. A letter from the relative confirming their residential
address in the US and that they were driving should certainly
nail it.
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