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#Post#: 109763--------------------------------------------------
Bailff - NewlynPLC - PCN:GR21867158 - Stopped in a restricted
bus stop. Woolwich - DOI: 25/05/2023
DIR By: BpW77
Date: February 13, 2026, 3:47 pm
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Hi,
I wonder if you guys could help me out with a bit of advice. I
think I have put all relevant details below.
Bailiff: NewlynPLC
Case ID:9865666
Council: R B of Greenwich
PCN:GR21867158
Contravention date: 25/05/2023
Location: Woolwich
Contravention details: Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand
Google maps location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/vLbQCXpxzLHsMoux7
Notice of enforcement letter:
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/ZreWH8h
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/fknOiZv
Council Evidence:
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/tU6QEvX
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/Nsl9Ge2
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/lckU6Tp
I have just received a Notice of enforcement from the Bailiff's.
This is in relation to an incident on 25/05/2023 when my vehicle
was stopped briefly in a bus stop to let out a passenger who was
on crutches and so needed to be dropped as close as possible
(only remembered by looking at IMGS).
This is the first correspondence i have received on the matter,
and it is an incident that happened nearly 3 years ago. I have
not changed address, and I have not received any previous
letters about it.
After checking the council website, I can confirm that it was my
vehicle dropping off a passenger in the bus stop, however I do
not believe there is adequate signage or markings to make you
aware there is a bus camera.
I wonder if you can provide me with some advice on the matter.
It feels wrong to not have been sent anything, on a matter that
is almost 3 years old. I am happy to pay it if you think that is
best option, but are there options to pay the fine amount,
rather than the bailiff amount?
Many thanks
#Post#: 109770--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailff - NewlynPLC - PCN:GR21867158 - Stopped in a
restricted bus stop. Woolwich - DOI: 25/05/2023
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 13, 2026, 4:57 pm
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As you have not rceived any of the statutor enforcement
documents, the most likely cause is the name and address on your
V5C Registration Certificate for the vehicle was not up-to-date
when the offence occurred, or you moved shortly after the
offence date, but forgot to update your V5C prompty. Is your V5C
up-to-date even now ?
Their letter indicates that you are at the compliance stage
under the legislation governing bailiff actions. This means the
PCN debt, plus a statutory amount of £75 is demanded by the
bailiffs. If there is no payment, the bailiffs can attend your
premises and charge a visit fee of £235.
So as you are at this fairly low cost stage, we recommend you
pay the amount. There is only one avenue available to you to
get the matter reverted to the original PCN stage, and that is
to submit an Out-of-Time Witness Statement to the Traffic
Enforcement Centre stating that you did not receive the PCN.
However, you must also say why, and failure to update one's V5C
is not a sufficient reason for TEC to cancel the PCN.
So apart from paying to stop further bailiff action, which could
involve seizure of your car, I suggest you take a close look at
your V5C and check the address on it. This assumes you are the
owner.
Only if you can get the matter reverted, can you appeal the PCN
or pay it at the discounted rate. If your submission succeeds,
you'll get back the bailiff fees and the surcharges added to the
PCN.
For information, you have failed to receive the following
statutory enforcement documents: -
- PCN (post for a bus stop offence)
- Charge Certificate (adds 50% to PCN penalty)
- Order for Recovery (adds £10 being the TEC registration fee)
#Post#: 109820--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailff - NewlynPLC - PCN:GR21867158 - Stopped in a
restricted bus stop. Woolwich - DOI: 25/05/2023
DIR By: roythebus
Date: February 14, 2026, 11:26 am
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I wonder if the council has any other photgraphic evidence, they
need to produce a photo of the yellow sing that must be at the
bus stop saying No Stopping except buses. There's been quite a
few cases won on that point.
#Post#: 109831--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailff - NewlynPLC - PCN:GR21867158 - Stopped in a
restricted bus stop. Woolwich - DOI: 25/05/2023
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 14, 2026, 1:27 pm
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--- Quote from: roythebus link ---
>
> I wonder if the council has any other photgraphic evidence,
they need to produce a photo of the yellow sing that must be at
the bus stop saying No Stopping except buses. There's been quite
a few cases won on that point.
>
--- End Quote ---
Evidence for the alleged contravention is irrelevant at this
stage, because the stage at which one can appeal is long past.
Of course if the OP submits an Out-of-Time Witness Statement
that is accepted then, yes, the PCN can be appealed.
We need to know the legislation under which the PCN was served.
If it was for stopping in a restricted bus stop, then it should
be the Traffic Management Act 2004.
#Post#: 109879--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailff - NewlynPLC - PCN:GR21867158 - Stopped in a
restricted bus stop. Woolwich - DOI: 25/05/2023
DIR By: BpW77
Date: February 15, 2026, 11:49 am
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Hi,
Thanks for getting back so promptly! It is a shame that it has
got to this stage, as normally I would contest. I'll settle in
this instance to prevent further incurred costs.
Thanks again for the advice!
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