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#Post#: 109253--------------------------------------------------
53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 9, 2026, 4:07 pm
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PCN BT26713822 Mount Rd/ Dollis Hill Ave
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/tYaZRXBgUDeXF6Wz7
PCN BT26716795 Edgeware Road / Dollis Hill Ave
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/pmCZFSbXVCQM1AVv5
VRN P40 GBD
re: Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave Junctions
Slight issue and would really appreciate any help. These PCNs
aren’t mine - I’m helping an elderly gentleman.
Toby received two 53J PCNs, but there are several issues
(outlined below). According to the late stage final letters , he
only has a day or so left to respond, despite them being
received just three days ago.
Is it possible they were backdated when sent, or delayed in the
post? It took around 10 days to reach Toby. Also, no Notice to
Owner was received at all.
Ideally, we’d like to avoid paying either PCN, but failing that,
the best outcome would be to have one cancelled and pay the
other just to get this resolved and off Toby’s back.
Toby, a Blue Badge holder, drove along restricted school roads
in Brent on 26/09/25.
The PCN dated 01/10/25 was received while he was away
(01/10/25–31/10/25), causing him to miss the payment deadlines.
PCN Front 795:
HTML https://ibb.co/wNY1QKYK
Back 795:
HTML https://ibb.co/9H88cFTt
PCN Front 822:
HTML https://ibb.co/QFyz4yFX
Back 822:
HTML https://ibb.co/6cMxWrtf
A Charge Certificate dated 04/11/25 followed.
Front 822:
HTML https://ibb.co/qYg4mPSp
Back 822:
HTML https://ibb.co/XxYq48Gg
Front 795:
HTML https://ibb.co/LmTKsdD
Back 795:
HTML https://ibb.co/q3pTSGK9
Toby submitted an explanation via the online portal, including
proof that he was abroad at the time, and received an automated
acknowledgement on 11/11/25.
Screenshot of the message below. While part of the text is cut
off, it states that the two fines were issued in close
succession.
HTML https://ibb.co/4RcQXDdC
HTML https://ibb.co/67nhb1Cr
No further contact was made for 88 days, until the below arrived
on 07/02/26, (dated 29/01/26 - a whole ten days earlier) It
reoffered the discount for both PCN's (£80 to pay) but does not
allow to make reps. That's unfair, no? I assumed the process
would start again.
Front 822:
HTML https://ibb.co/sp6W61m0
Back:
HTML https://ibb.co/Zz3yTCCb
Front 795:
HTML https://ibb.co/PL4Q5tB
Back:
HTML https://ibb.co/LzHwJ2wf
Please advise as to next steps please - at a loss here. Time is
very short and the last thing Toby needs is the bailiffs
knocking on his door and having to pay the full whack and more.
Thanking in advance.
#Post#: 109260--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 9, 2026, 4:57 pm
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--- Quote ---
> It reoffered the discount for both PCN's (£80 to pay) but does
not allow to make reps. That's unfair, no? I assumed the process
would start again.
--- End Quote ---
No, it's not unfair, the process is that one gets 28 days to
respond to a postal PCN, after which, whilst late
representations can be submitted, the council are under no legal
obligation to accept them. Here, the Charge Certificates have
been served, which only allow payment not appeals. It seems the
council have given way in re-offering the discount (£80). You
could try registering an appeal at London Tribunals, but this
means the full PCN penalties will be in play (£160 x 2 = £320),
and looking at the details of the PCNs, whilst the point about
the height of the signs is valid, it is not guaranteed that an
adjudicator will agree they are not adequate to convey the
restriction to motorists. London Tribunals may also not accept a
late request to appeal.
I think your friend has got the best option, which is to pay the
£80 x 2 = £160 offered by Brent.
#Post#: 109261--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 9, 2026, 5:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote]It reoffered the discount for both PCN's (£80 to pay)
but does not allow to make reps. That's unfair, no? I assumed
the process would start again.
--- End Quote ---
No, it's not unfair, the process is that one gets 28 days to
respond to a postal PCN, after which, whilst late
representations can be submitted, the council are under no legal
obligation to accept them. Here, the Charge Certificates have
been served, which only allow payment not appeals. It seems the
council have given way in re-offering the discount (£80). You
could try registering an appeal at London Tribunals, but this
means the full PCN penalties will be in play (£160 x 2 = £320),
and looking at the details of the PCNs, whilst the point about
the height of the signs is valid, it is not guaranteed that an
adjudicator will agree they are not adequate to convey the
restriction to motorists. London Tribunals may also not accept a
late request to appeal.
I think your friend has got the best option, which is to pay the
£80 x 2 = £160 offered by Brent.
[/quote]
Thanks for that, appreciate the advice and will relay it to him-
by asking if it was 'unfair', I meant - that, the 28days were
over by the time he returned home from abroad (pcn also received
in his absence). Brent Council were sent porof - but I guess
what he really hoped was they would let him off just the one pcn
- no idea if they're lenient like that.. was hoping to appeal to
their better nature perhaps considering no NTO was received
either?
As for risking going further and the possibility/ risk of paying
full whack - that would finish him off!! Anxiety/ income issues
#Post#: 109263--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 9, 2026, 5:22 pm
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It's annoying that the PCNs are 1 minute apart and if there was
nothing else to go on he would probably have got the second
cancelled.
But at this stage paying both at discount makes it all go away.
#Post#: 109265--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: GirlFriday
Date: February 9, 2026, 5:38 pm
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Gah! yeah, I understand.. it's so frustrating though how the
councils are so quick to move the goalposts.. if Toby had not
returned back home when he did - he'd have been well and truly
up the creek without a paddle! Alas, 'discount' reoffered so
mustn't complain' :-X lol
#Post#: 109269--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53J Brent Dollis Hill Rd/ Edgeware Rd/ Mount Ave - deadline
tomorrow but letter arrived only 3 days ago
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 9, 2026, 6:15 pm
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--- Quote ---
> was hoping to appeal to their better nature perhaps
considering no NTO was received either?
--- End Quote ---
These were postal PCNs, so no NtO is served, because the PCN
goes to the owner as indicated on the V5C Registration
Certificate. The only Act which enforces a second postal
document which is similar to an NtO, is the one used in London
for bus lane offences, which mandates the serving of an
Enforcement Notice.
Yes, the legislation around parking and traffic contraventions
in London is a complete Dog's Breakfast. It could all now be
done under the Traffic Management Act 2004, but so far, no
government minister has forced this to be used instead.
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