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EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: Albamc Date: February 9, 2026, 11:22 am
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Hi,
The driver prepaid for parking in Portsmouth in January from
22:30 until 19:30 the next day with Just Park. It was at Brunel
House Car Park, which is apparently 'Private Land'.
The driver arrived at the car park at 22:22:34 and drove in, but
did not park until the car was unpacked - after 10:30.
The next day the driver arrived back at the car at 19:25, and
after moving the car (parked with boot against a barrier for
extra security) repacked it and left at 19:33.
The driver just received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for £100 'The
vehicle was parked without a valid Pay by Phone transaction.'
The driver paid for 21 hours but they are saying 'parked' for 21
hours and eleven minutes.
Having spoken to the Just Park Bot, the driver was informed the
early arrival is ok as long as the vehicle was not actually
parked (how we prove this is unclear,) but on leaving, the three
minutes (during which the driver had moved the car, but again,
how does either party prove that?) constitute an overstay which
the driver can be fined for.
Considering the driver paid for 21 hours, and not only was the
overstay a maximum of three minutes and thirty one seconds, this
seems excessively strict.
The driver would very much appreciate any advice on whether
there are grounds to appeal considering the vehicle was not
actually parked before the allotted time. The driver accepts the
car was not driven out of the car park until three minutes past
the allotted time, but this appears to be an excessively strict
and unreasonable application of the rules - especially as the
driver had returned to my car before the allotted time had run
out and moved it to open the boot.
Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Alistair
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: RichardW Date: February 9, 2026, 11:49 am
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1. Update your post to refer to 'the driver's not I.
2. Post up the PCN
3. Post up a street view link to the location - or some info on
the parking terms / cost.
4. Confirm you are reg keeper and PCN arrived in your name?
Generally there is a 10min consideration period and 5 min grace
period - but arguably there would be no consideration period as
the parking was prepaid;and the grace period nay have been
nullified by the early arrival. Parking cis generally consider
time on site equal to parking so the unloading etc doesn't
figure.
What was the car doing there - on the business of the landowner
(e.g. hotel)?
#Post#: 109248--------------------------------------------------
Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: Albamc Date: February 9, 2026, 3:24 pm
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Thank you for your reply Richard,
Unfortunately I cannot see how to attach an image - I don't have
URLs for the images and I can't see another option in the icons
bar?
1. Post edited
2. PCN avaialable but can't attach.
3. Also have photo from Just Park through whose App the space
was booked. The address is Brunel House Car Park - Portsmouth
PO13DR. Cost was £14.29. Message from the Just Park Bot also
available.
4. I am the registered keeper and the PCN was in my name.
It is the nearest car park to the Isle of Wight Ferry terminal.
The car was left there during a visit to family.
If there is an easy way to attach an image I'd love to know how!
Thanks again.
Alistair
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: RichardW Date: February 9, 2026, 4:43 pm
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You need an external host for the images, see the sticky:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
Funnily enough the only parking ticket I have ever got was on
Southsea seafront, whilst I went on the Hovercraft to visit
family on the IOW!
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: InterCity125 Date: February 10, 2026, 1:53 am
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The PCN needs to be posted up.
Recently, Euro Car Parks PCNs have not been PoFA compliant so
there could be an easy way out here but we need to see the
wording on both sides of the PCN.
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: Albamc Date: February 10, 2026, 7:06 am
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Here, hopefully, are the images:
HTML https://ibb.co/Nn7RS4LL
HTML https://ibb.co/b5RSvGrj
HTML https://ibb.co/G4n3JkN0
HTML https://ibb.co/DPJrV874
Many thanks
Al
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: DWMB2 Date: February 10, 2026, 7:11 am
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You might want to hide your full name and home address, this is
a public forum.
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: Albamc Date: February 10, 2026, 7:19 am
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Thank you. Done.
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: Albamc Date: February 11, 2026, 6:35 am
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Just wondering if the PCN threw any light on the matter -
especially the PoFA compliance issue mentioned by InterCity125?
Any help most appreciated.
Al
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Re: EuroCar Parks PCN for three minute overstay
By: RichardW Date: February 17, 2026, 7:43 am
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There's no invitation for the keeper to pay or nominate the
driver, but this is a fairly weak point.
It says the contravention is no payment, rather than overstay,
which suggests there might have been some issue with the
transfer of data / cash from Just Park?
Do you know what the parking terms at the site are? It doesn't
show on Street View.
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