URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
  HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: Private parking tickets
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 108294--------------------------------------------------
       Devere - PCN as driver was loading on 'Access Road' - Is keeper
       liability invalid?
   DIR By: Joe_Biden_69
       Date: February 1, 2026, 12:17 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Address: Station Approach, Bournemouth.
       Hello,
       Received a PCN as keeper as shown (I removed PCN number, addres
       and vehicle reg):
       [img]
  HTML https://ibb.co/js5WXPY[/img]
       [img]
  HTML https://ibb.co/VWBYK6n0[/img]
       Driver loaded on double yellow lines for under 7 minutes.
       Evidence of actual incident (timestamped photos) are shown on
       payment page rather than NTK. Please help me with any or all
       questions:
       1. NTK only states a time of issue rather than a period. Does
       this mean they cannot claim keeper liability under Schedule 4
       PoFA (7) (2) a.
       Which states: 'The notice must specify the vehicle, the relevant
       land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which
       the notice relates;'
       2. As they are accusing the driver of a 'waiting' issue, surely
       this invalidates keeper liability anyway since keeper liability
       is meant for 'parking' issues, which is legally different from
       'waiting.'
       3. As the driver was loading, can Jopson be used as a defence?
       4. As the area of the acccess roadway is not defined on sigange,
       can this be used as a defence?
       5. Should I bother going through IPC appeal process?
       Anything else I should be aware of?
       Thank you  :)
       #Post#: 108296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Devere - PCN as driver was loading on 'Access Road' - Is
       keeper liability invalid?
   DIR By: Joe_Biden_69
       Date: February 1, 2026, 12:18 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Links to images are:
  HTML https://ibb.co/VWBYK6n0
  HTML https://ibb.co/js5WXPY
       #Post#: 108393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Devere - PCN as driver was loading on 'Access Road' - Is
       keeper liability invalid?
   DIR By: Joe_Biden_69
       Date: February 2, 2026, 7:31 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       please help me
       #Post#: 108402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Devere - PCN as driver was loading on 'Access Road' - Is
       keeper liability invalid?
   DIR By: Dave65
       Date: February 2, 2026, 8:45 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       The ntk says reason, waiting /parking.
       Where exactly was the vehicle loading?
       Was it outside a property?
       Cab you show photo of signage?
       #Post#: 108406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Devere - PCN as driver was loading on 'Access Road' - Is
       keeper liability invalid?
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: February 2, 2026, 9:16 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       is that your vehicle with the door open, in the pic on the pcn?
       if so it was clearly not on the roadway.
       *****************************************************
       Page 1 of 1