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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: MrChips Date: March 9, 2026, 8:23 am
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For PCNs issued under LLA2003, it's date of notice, not service
which kicks off the 14/28 day periods.
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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: Ray236 Date: March 9, 2026, 8:39 am
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Please see reply from council and advise asap if I can appeal ?
PENALTY CHARGE NOT ICE JK17897929
DATE OF CONT RAVENT ION Thursday, January 01, 2026 03:41
VERIFICAT ION CODE
VEHICLE REGIST RAT ION MARK LN25YKG
LOCAT ION RYE LANE JUNCTION HANOVER PARK
CONT RAVENT ION 52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on
certain types of vehicle
AMOUNT OUTST ANDING £80.00
Notice of Rejection of Representations - Road Traffic Act 1991
(as amended)
London Local Authorities Acts 1990 - 2003
CCTV - Moving Traffic Contraventions
Dear Sir Or Madam
Thank you for writing to us.
We have carefully considered what you say but we have decided
not to cancel your PCN.
We sent you a PCN because our CCTV camera evidence shows your
vehicle going where motor vehicles are not allowed.
The sign is round, white and has a red border. Within the
circle, pictures of a motorcycle and motor vehicle indicate that
these types of vehicle are not permitted to use the route.
The wording accompanying the restriction signs says, “Except for
loading 7am – 10am and buses and taxis”. This means
that vehicles may use the route for the purpose of loading or
unloading goods (this does not include passengers) between
7am and 10am, and that buses and taxis are permitted to use the
route.
You have stated in your representations that you are a licensed
Bolt private hire driver and was engaged in a live, prebooked
journey at the time of this alleged contravention. The
passenger’s pickup location was beyond the restricted
junction, and there was no safe or practical alternative route.
You attempted to avoid entering the junction, but a vehicle
directly behind me—also a private hire vehicle—blocked your
turn. You asked the driver to reverse, but they refused, stating
they were allowed to pick up as taxis. The signage at the
junction was unclear as to whether it applied to private hire
vehicles or only licensed taxis, which caused further confusion.
You contacted the passenger to see if they could move to an
alternative pickup point. They were unwell and felt unsafe
walking, particularly at that time and location, so relocating
was
not an option. however, this is not a situation that would
result in cancellation of the penalty charge.
Due to the shape of the junction where the restriction is
located and the limited visibility of the restriction signs
prior to
reaching the junction, there are large advance warning signs
prominently displayed on Hanover Park, approximately 100m
and 30m before the junction. The warning signs are clearly
visible and provide sufficient time for motorists to alter their
course to avoid a contravention.
27/02/2026 73B610
There are warning signs on Hanover Park, approximately 100m and
30m before the junction. The warning signs are clearly
visible and provide sufficient time for motorists to alter their
course to avoid a contravention.
The restriction signs and warning signs remain visible at night
due to the ambient light of surrounding street lighting, and
they
are reflectorized to appear brighter under the headlights of
approaching vehicles.
I have reviewed the contravention photographs and footage and,
having taken into consideration your representations, I am
satisfied that the contravention occurred and the PCN was
correctly issued.
You can view photographs and footage of the contravention via
the following website:
HTML https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-transport/parking/parking-tickets/pay-your-parking-ticket<br
/>by clicking ‘pay
your parking ticket online” then entering the PCN number and
your VRM
The enclosed photos help to show why your PCN was issued.
You have these choices:
You can pay the discount charge of £80.00. You have 14 days
beginning with the date that this letter is served on you.
You can pay £160.00 if you miss the discount period. You have 28
days beginning with the date that this letter is
served on you.
You can appeal against our decision to the London Tribunals
Environment and Traffic Adjudicators. You have 28 days,
or within such longer period as an adjudicator may allow,
beginning with the date that this letter is served on you. To
make your appeal please use the Appeal Form enclosed with this
letter and please read the guidance notes before
completing the form. Appeals must be made to London Tribunals,
PO Box 460, Hartlepool, TS24 4JE or online at
www.LondonTribunals.gov.uk. Please do not send your appeal to
us. If you wish to make any enquiries about your
appeal, you can also visit the London Tribunals Environment and
Traffic Adjudicators website at
www.LondonTribunals.gov.uk or call 020 7520 7200. If you lose
your appeal, you will have to pay the full charge rather
than the discount charge (unless the Adjudicator decides
otherwise). The Adjudicator shall not normally make an order
awarding costs and expenses but may make such an order against
either party if he is of the opinion that the party has
acted frivolously or vexatiously or that his conduct in making,
pursuing or rejecting the appeal was wholly unreasonable,
or against an enforcement authority where he considers that the
disputed decision was wholly unreasonable. The
Adjudicator may only make an order awarding costs and expenses
against a party, as detailed above, where that
party has been given an opportunity of making representations
against the making of the order.
If you do nothing
If, after 28 days, you have taken no action, we may send you a
Charge Certificate increasing the charge from £160.00 to
£240.00. You will then have 14 days to pay the increased charge.
If, after the 14 days, you have not paid the increased
charge, we may apply to the County Court to recover the money -
plus court costs - from you.
How to pay:
Internet By credit or debit card at
HTML https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-transport/parking/parkingtickets/pay-your-parking-ticket<br
/>Please have your Penalty Charge Notice number and issue date,
vehicle registration
number and your credit/debit card details available.
Post By cheque or postal order only, payable to Southwark
Parking Services. Please make sure you write the Penalty
Charge Notice number, vehicle registration number and your
address on the back of the cheque or postal order, and
send it to: Southwark Parking Services, Admail 4197, London, SE1
1ZW.
Do NOT send cash or make a credit card payment by post.
Post-dated cheques will not be accepte
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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: Ray236 Date: March 10, 2026, 7:02 am
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Please can you advise on the above asap as my discount period is
coming to a end soon need to know if to pay or appeal best
option please many thanks.
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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 10, 2026, 9:36 am
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The council have rejected your representations on the basis that
you are not a "licenced" taxicab. So I assume the taxis that are
allowed to pass the sign are the traditional Hackney cabs,
sometimes called "black cabs" but not private hire cabs.
However, I'm not up to speed on this aspect so wait and see if
anybody else can give a definitive answer.
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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: ivanleo Date: March 11, 2026, 4:28 pm
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[quote author=NTIAEP link=topic=9759.msg112541#msg112541
date=1773061743]
[member=24]Hippocrates[/member] [member=1]cp8759[/member] - your
thoughts?
[/quote]
Really sorry but I don't have capacity to look at this.
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Re: PCN RYE LANE JUNCTION
By: Ray236 Date: March 15, 2026, 11:31 am
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please can advise asap as my discount period is ending
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