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UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area"
; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: blossom28 Date: January 30, 2026, 3:09 pm
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Notice to keeper:
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HTML https://ibb.co/JWmdYmKN
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I have spoken to the driver of the car and have received the
following account:
[quote]Car was parked about 10 mins; driver has indicated that
someone else was in the car the entire time whilst driver
retrieved an item from a nearby shop; driver doesn’t believe
it’s signed clearly as you enter to suggest that it's a private
road where parking is prohibited.[/quote]
Driver has parked in this area numerous times in the past
without incident. Valid blue badge held at time of incident.
Mostly interested in compliance with PoFA 2012, but any advice
gratefully received.
Google Maps:
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/place/51°33'24.9"N+0°17'06.8"W/@51.5569167,-0.2858671,94m/
Car was at:
HTML https://ibb.co/h1CFnfhC
(not on hatched lines)
#Post#: 108101--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area&
quot; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: jfollows Date: January 31, 2026, 3:42 am
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HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
[quote]9(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to
keeper for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in
accordance with this paragraph if the following requirements are
met.
(2)The notice must—
(a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked
and the period of parking to which the notice relates;[/quote]
Where is the “period of parking”?
See also
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/pcn-from-uk-parking-patrol-office/msg105542/#msg105542
#Post#: 108145--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area&
quot; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: blossom28 Date: January 31, 2026, 9:52 am
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[quote author=jfollows link=topic=9749.msg108101#msg108101
date=1769852543]
Where is the “period of parking”?
See also
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/pcn-from-uk-parking-patrol-office/msg105542/#msg105542
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Cheers (and thanks for the link), you're quite right that it's
simply an instant in time specified on the NTK, rather than a
range.
So, standard reply appears to be along these lines:
[quote]
I am the keeper of the vehicle with registration [REG] and I
dispute your 'parking charge', received 27th January 2026. I
deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making
a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client
landowner.
As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with all
the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper
of the vehicle liable for the charge. It does not specify “the
period of parking” as required. This omission renders the notice
non-compliant, and as such, the operator cannot rely on PoFA to
pursue the registered keeper.
Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There
will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or
assumptions can be drawn. UK Parking Patrol Office has relied on
contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have
been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation
of the law of agency.
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Presumably appealing via recorded post is the method likely to
incur UKPPO the most handling fees. Given we're outside the 14
day period now, there's no remedy for UKPPO - right? They're out
of time to deliver a fixed NTK.
I will do some digging into who the landowner is; I think a lot
of what's near Wembley Stadium is Quintain's.
I'll reply here once the initial appeal has been rejected,
assume the next step then may as well be a POPLA appeal.
#Post#: 108153--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area&
quot; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: jfollows Date: January 31, 2026, 10:23 am
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Recorded post is not usually advised. The recipient can choose
not to accept it. Email or first class post with certificate of
posting are better. Don’t waste your money.
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Re: UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area&
quot; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: blossom28 Date: March 2, 2026, 7:11 am
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Response entirely fails to engage with the substance of the
appeal. Actually, it cuts off mid-sentence at the end too ;D
HTML https://ibb.co/ccxVQvT8
I'm keen to do an IAS appeal, is there anything else worth
stating in the appeal or is the initial appeal text enough?
#Post#: 113066--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK Parking Patrol Office - "Parking In No Parking Area&
quot; - land at Stadium Way, Wembley
By: blossom28 Date: March 12, 2026, 3:36 pm
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This is what I've currently got as a draft for the IAS appeal.
For the questions in the initial part of the appeal, I have
answered as follows:
WERE YOU: The DRIVER at the time of the parking event? (please
tick): Not prepared to say
The KEEPER of the vehicle at the time of the parking event?
(please tick): Yes
Why do you say the parking charge is not payable?
[quote]
The operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability under
Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (“POFA”).
However, the Notice to Keeper does not comply with the mandatory
requirements of POFA and therefore keeper liability cannot
apply.
Schedule 4, Paragraph 9(2)(a) of POFA states that the Notice to
Keeper must:
“specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked
and the period of parking to which the notice relates.”
The notice I received does not specify any period of parking.
Instead, it only provides a single timestamp:
“Incident Time/Date: 11:15 16/01/2026”
I have enclosed the notice and highlighted this part of it in
red.
A single moment in time does not constitute a period. The
combination of a date and instant in time does not constitute a
period. Parliament deliberately required the notice to specify a
period of parking, which necessarily implies a defined duration
with both a start and end. The operator has failed to provide
this.
This omission is not a triviality. As you will be aware,
compliance with Schedule 4 is a strict statutory requirement if
a parking operator wishes to transfer liability from the driver
to the registered keeper. Where the statutory conditions are not
met, keeper liability simply does not arise.
As the Notice to Keeper fails to specify the period of parking
as required by Paragraph 9(2)(a), it is not compliant with
Schedule 4 of POFA. Consequently, the operator cannot rely on
keeper liability and is out of time to issue a corrected NTK.
The operator is therefore limited to pursuing the driver, who
has not been identified. As the keeper, I cannot be held liable
for this charge. For this reason alone, the appeal must be
allowed.
The operator has failed to consider or respond to any of these
points which I raised in my initial appeal and appears not to
have even finished writing the appeal rejection notice before
printing it and sending it to me.
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Not going to hold my breath on a positive response, but keen to
engage fully. Hopefully it will cost UKPPO a bit, too; and they
can enjoy dealing with it all via post again.
Any feedback/amends appreciated.
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