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Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 20, 2023, 4:44 pm
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Well you now need to make a decision about whether you want to
risk the full penalty at the tribunal. Also wait and see what
PMB says.
#Post#: 1865--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: kno
Date: July 24, 2023, 11:41 am
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Called up TFL today. Their additional postal letter will take
another 14 days, but would not increase the duration. When I
asked how they are sending the letter (signed & tracked like the
video evidence), they said the letters are sent via regular
mail. They did not provide a reason behind sending mails by
different ways (read, speed and tracking) based on the content.
The call center person read me the letter over the phone, and
when I asked how do I make a legal decision based on this, they
were insistent that the readout works. I heard it over the
phone, and left the conversation there.
BTW, The last date is today for the reduced penalty.
Since they asked me to take a look at SPAM/JUNK folder, I did
and found it after a lot of struggle.
Link to rejection letter -
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/11vmyK_lQfNW2Cq-g2Dzl7JoL2d_jBKy0/view?usp=drive_link
I want to take this to the adjudicators, if that is the next
step. How do I proceed?
Or, Is there anything else which I am missing?
#Post#: 1889--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 24, 2023, 3:57 pm
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If you want to appeal, just fill out the Notice of Appeal form
and email it to queries@londontribunals.org.uk
We recommend you tick the box for a personal hearing, and also
the box in section 7 requesting that all communications come to
you by email. In the covering email you can also specify you
want a telephone hearing, if you'd rather not go to the hearing
centre in person.
If the form isn't editable, you can use
HTML https://www.sejda.com/pdf-editor
to edit it.
Do not send the form by post, it will just delay things and it
adds the risk that the form might get lost in the post.
#Post#: 1935--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: kno
Date: July 25, 2023, 2:52 pm
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While I was filling up the form, I remembered that it was
difficult/challenging to see the end of the box junction from
the 3rd lane. Additionally, if you see the video, the sun visor
was down due to the direct sunlight hitting the windshield. It
was really very difficult to gauge the distance and the line
that day.
Can I put this reason along with the right-hand turn
justification I gave earlier? Like - 1) Visibility (with
evidence) 2) Right hand turn/vehicular movement 3) Flawed
junction as seen in the video as almost everyone stopped ?
I intend to visit the signal/junction around the same time this
week (possibly Saturday), and take additional photos and videos
from the same place where the car was snapped. Both in driving
and stationary modes. Would this help? If yes, can I attach the
videos and photos along with the appeal to the email address?
Also, Is my appeal late? Do I need to justify that I didn't
receive the postal letter, and the mail went to SPAM/JUNK box?
#Post#: 1944--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 25, 2023, 3:34 pm
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Your deadline to appeal is 9 August, no idea why you think
you're late?
Anyway as a general rule we recommend just putting "I rely on my
formal representations", tick the box to request a personal
hearing and wait to see TFL's evidence pack. Once that's been
received, you can flesh out the full grounds later on.
There is simply no reason to show your hand first.
#Post#: 2012--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: July 27, 2023, 6:55 am
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follow CP's advice i will look up more case that concern turning
right if you were just following the road there would not be a
junction would there so that argument is easy to dispel
#Post#: 2123--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: kno
Date: July 29, 2023, 10:43 am
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I have submitted my filled-up form to London Adjudicators as per
advice from cp8759. TFL status shows as below.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SUl024qsXtuQzVddN3R5MwkV4wG_gjPe/view?usp=drive_link
#Post#: 2138--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: July 29, 2023, 2:56 pm
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did you send your appeal to London tribunals or TfL
#Post#: 2146--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: kno
Date: July 29, 2023, 4:13 pm
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To Tribunals -
#Post#: 2153--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL PCN - Bath Rd_Great West Rd
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 29, 2023, 7:39 pm
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--- Quote from: kno link ---
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> To Tribunals - queries@londontribunals.org.uk with the form
>
--- End Quote ---
Have you had a case reference from the tribunal?
If not, call them on Monday and ask. If the form has not been
processed yet, you can ask them there and then to raise a task
for case management, and it'll then get processed on Monday and
you'll get the hearing scheduling letter on Tuesday, providing
the comms preference on the case is set to email (again you can
confirm this when you call the tribunal).
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