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#Post#: 107633--------------------------------------------------
Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: JLA
Date: January 28, 2026, 4:22 am
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Hi All, the driver got this notice issued 11th Jan, letter dated
13th Jan received on 17th Jan. When they parked in this car park
it was dark and they parked in what they thought was a bay as
there were some white lines markings over the hatched markings
so they thought it was ok to park there. Some images on their
website show this too. As the markings are faded and overlap
it's quite confusing. The car parked in the adjacent bay (not
the hatched one) has a white line which makes the bay the driver
parked in look like a normal bay too, especially when it's dark.
Do you think there is any way to appeal this? Also, the wording
on the notice seems to be a bit confusing in parts re: the dates
and timings for appeals/payments or have the driver just got
that wrong? Added links to NTK and their images. Would
appreciate any help. Thanks.
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#Post#: 107819--------------------------------------------------
Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: JLA
Date: January 29, 2026, 3:34 am
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Anyone got anything please?
#Post#: 107821--------------------------------------------------
Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 29, 2026, 3:45 am
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Please don't bump your thread if you haven't received a reply
within 24 hours. This is a busy forum run entirely by
volunteers. If everyone did that, it would be unmanageable.
I'd be minded to draft a simple appeal (as the keeper), on the
basis that the driver was parked in what appeared to be a marked
bay, and that the road markings were at best conflicting, at
worst so neglected as to be entirely unclear.
#Post#: 107823--------------------------------------------------
Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: JLA
Date: January 29, 2026, 3:56 am
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Apologies and thanks for your reply, i'll submit appeal today.
One other point i wasn't sure about was, is there supposed to be
a sign as you enter the car park stating the T&C's like the ones
in the car park?
#Post#: 107825--------------------------------------------------
Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 29, 2026, 4:05 am
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There should be a prominent entrance sign, yes. If there isn't,
get some photos to show this.
GSV suggests there was one in 2024, but that's a fair while ago
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Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: January 29, 2026, 4:10 am
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I'd just stick to the 'poor markings' basis to start with.
GSV appears to show an entrance sign.
The pictures appear to show a scenario where the bay markings
are stronger than the hatch markings.
This is a possible fly-trap site - the car parked next to you
appears to be in a similar situation.
GSV shows the car park WITHOUT the yellow hatching so I suspect
that the yellow hatching was added using a very low quality
materials which have worn very quickly given that the GSV view
(with no hatching) was taken Sept 2024.
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Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: JLA
Date: January 30, 2026, 8:52 am
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1st image was taken on 17th Jan when the driver went back to
check entry signs & bay markings, the only sign relating to
parking was the small blue sign on the post on the right before
they entered. 2nd image shows sign wording clearly. No other
signs showing any T&C's before entry.
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Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: January 30, 2026, 9:15 am
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Code of Practice document;
HTML https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130225.pdf
Scroll down to Section 3 - Signs and surface marking
COMMENTARY ON CLAUSE 3
Signs and surface markings are used to provide information to
drivers to indicate that they
are entering controlled land, to display such terms and
conditions as apply to direct traffic
movements and to delineate parking bays. Signs and surface
markings must be designed,
applied and maintained in such a way as to be visible, legible
and unambiguous to drivers.
Operators should take note of relevant best practice guidance
and legislation.
A very warn yellow hatching on top of warn bay markings are not
'unambiguous'. Neither are they 'maintained'.
The above should be point one of your appeal.
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Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: Sander333
Date: January 30, 2026, 1:27 pm
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Am I missing something but there is mention of POFA requirements
so they can not transfer liability to registered keeper. Also as
far as I am aware I cannot recall a PCN requesting £70 and not
the usual £60 I thought the discount was 60%.
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Re: Royal Leisure Park W3 NTK
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 30, 2026, 4:52 pm
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None of the requirements of PoFA actually require the mention of
the legislation itself.
Good point, I hadn't noticed that they were asking for £70. I'd
throw that into the mix (clause 8.2 of the Private Parking
Sector Single Code of Practice). OP draft something up and we
can offer comment. I'll have time to have a proper look Sunday
evening.
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