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#Post#: 108647--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: February 4, 2026, 2:52 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Informal challenges are only submitted against a PCN served at
the roadside, i.e a paper PCN served by a patrolling CEO, so are
for parking contraventions.
> Formal challenges are submitted by owners of the vehicle on
receipt of a Notice to Owner, or a PCN sent by post.
> Only when a formal challenge has been refused can one register
an appeal at London Tribunals.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for clarify, then I should wait for formal challenge
#Post#: 108670--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 4, 2026, 5:39 am
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You have a postal PCN, so you either need to pay it or submit
formal representations.
#Post#: 108771--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: February 4, 2026, 7:32 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> You have a postal PCN, so you either need to pay it or submit
formal representations.
>
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I think Hippocrates atm striving on the draft to save me from
Lambeth council
#Post#: 108976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: February 7, 2026, 5:24 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Please screenshot the payments/representations page and report
back. Then I will draft for you.
>
--- End Quote ---
Just to update that's their web now look like, cheers pal
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#Post#: 109555--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: February 12, 2026, 3:57 am
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Sorry for being annoying, I'm afraid missing the deadline for
representation, as English isn't my first language and not
familiar with UK Traffic Act, just reside in UK 4 years ago.
I asked ChatGPT made a draft, could anyone please give hand for
a look, appreciate for any help and advise.
--- Quote ---
> Formal Representation – Procedural Impropriety – PCN [Insert
Number]
>
> Dear Lambeth Parking,
>
> Re: Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
> PCN Number: [Insert PCN Number]
> Vehicle Registration: [Insert Registration Number]
> Date of Contravention: 11 December 2025
> Date of Notice: 15 January 2026
>
> I make this formal representation against the above PCN on the
ground of procedural impropriety pursuant to the Traffic
Management Act 2004.
>
> The PCN states:
>
>
>
- The penalty charge of £160.00 must be paid before the end of
the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice (15
January 2026).
>
- If paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with
the date of the notice, the charge is reduced by 50% to £80.00.
>
- If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28-day
period, a Charge Certificate may be served increasing the charge
by 50% to £240.00.
>
>
> However, when accessing the Lambeth payment portal, the
following statements were displayed:
>
>
>
- “The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to
£160.00 on Wed, 4 Feb 2026. Please pay £80.00 now.”
>
- “The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to
£240.00 on Sun, 22 Feb 2026. Please pay £160.00 now.”
>
>
> These dates do not correctly correspond with the statutory
periods beginning with the date of the notice (15 January 2026).
>
> The 14-day period beginning with 15 January 2026 expires on 28
January 2026.
> The 28-day period beginning with 15 January 2026 expires on 11
February 2026.
>
> The dates presented on your website (4 February 2026 and 22
February 2026) therefore conflict with the statutory deadlines
prescribed by legislation and stated on the PCN itself.
>
> It is well established that enforcement authorities must
strictly comply with the statutory scheme. The provision of
conflicting and misleading information regarding payment
deadlines amounts to a procedural impropriety, as it misstates
the recipient’s legal position and potentially prejudices their
ability to make informed decisions regarding payment or
representations.
>
> In particular:
>
>
>
- The online system purported to extend the discounted period
beyond the statutory 14-day period.
>
- The stated Charge Certificate escalation date did not
correspond with the expiry of the 28-day statutory period.
>
- The inconsistency between the PCN and the online portal
creates uncertainty as to which dates the authority intends to
rely upon for enforcement.
>
>
> Such discrepancies undermine the certainty required by the
statutory regime and render the enforcement process defective.
>
> In light of the above, I require that this PCN be cancelled on
the ground of procedural impropriety.
>
> If you do not agree to cancel the PCN, please provide:
>
>
>
- A full explanation of how the website dates were calculated;
>
- Confirmation of the exact statutory basis relied upon for
those dates;
>
- Evidence that the enforcement process complies fully with the
Traffic Management Act 2004 and associated Regulations.
>
>
> I look forward to your confirmation that this PCN has been
cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your Name]
> [Your Address]
> [Your Contact Details]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 109576--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 12, 2026, 6:45 am
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There are no statuory grounds of "procedural impropriety' in the
LLA & TfL Act 2003 under which your PCN was served. You need to
reword the text. The alternative is "the penalty exceeded the
amount.....in the circumstances of the case"
#Post#: 109599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: gateway
Date: February 12, 2026, 9:05 am
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Hello All,
I got the same PCN issued on 11/02/2026, date of contravention
31/01/2026.
If somebody could guide me where does it mention the following
on the payment portal, it would be really helpful.
"However, when accessing the Lambeth payment portal, the
following statements were displayed:
“The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to
£160.00 on Wed, 4 Feb 2026. Please pay £80.00 now.”
“The amount outstanding on the Charge Notice will increase to
£240.00 on Sun, 22 Feb 2026. Please pay £160.00 now.”"
I do have the following mentioned on my PCN:
The PCN states:
The penalty charge of £160.00 must be paid before the end of the
period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice (31
January 2026).
If paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with
the date of the notice, the charge is reduced by 50% to £80.00.
If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28-day
period, a Charge Certificate may be served increasing the charge
by 50% to £240.00.
But the website states :
"As such, the changes to the penalty charges issued within the
London Borough of Lambeth as of the above date, are as follows:
Parking penalties at the higher level will increase by £30 to:
£160 (Band A) reduced to £80 if paid within 14 days from the
date of issue of the Penalty Charge Notice or 21 days if the
Notice was issued by a CCTV operation.
£140 (Band B) reduced to £70 if paid within 14 days from the
date of issue of the Penalty Charge Notice or 21 days if the
Notice was issued by a CCTV operation."
I assume this was issued by CCTV operation hence the reduced fee
should be 21 days and not 14 days as mentioned in the letter.
Link :
HTML https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/parking/parking-fines-and-penalty-charge-notices-pcns/penalty-charge-notices-pcns/notice-changes-penalty-charges-additional-fees
Can this be reasonable grounds for a formal representation.
Thank you.
#Post#: 109611--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: February 12, 2026, 10:31 am
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--- Quote from: gateway link ---
>
> Hello All,
>
> I got the same PCN issued on 11/02/2026, date of contravention
31/01/2026.
>
> . . .
>
>
> Thank you.
>
--- End Quote ---
For advice on your own case please have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
And start your own thread with a brief account of the
circumstances and your questions as you outlined here, and post
up there all sides of the PCN and a GSV link to the location.
Only redact yr name and address from docs - leave all else in.
#Post#: 109660--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: fkdacam1234
Date: February 12, 2026, 11:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> There are no statuory grounds of "procedural impropriety' in
the LLA & TfL Act 2003 under which your PCN was served. You need
to reword the text. The alternative is "the penalty exceeded the
amount.....in the circumstances of the case"
>
--- End Quote ---
Much appreciated for remind me the Act which I've no idea and
quote the wrong one ;D
I just done all night researching post in ftla and play with
ChatGPT, and I've got 2 more ground inspired by these 2 post and
re-draft. Thanks in advance if you or anyone don't mind to help
for a scan, love everyone. And fortunately I still got 2 hrs for
sleep.
Ohh, and one more question please tell if I'm wrong, the
deadline for representations will be 15th Feb as date of notice
was 15th Jan, date of served was 19th Jan then add 28 days
period?
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--- Quote ---
> Formal Representation – The penalty exceeded the amount
applicable in the circumstances of the case – PCN [Insert
Number]
> Dear Sir or Madam,
>
> Re: Penalty Charge Notice (PCN)
> PCN Number: [Insert PCN Number]
> Vehicle Registration: [Insert Registration Number]
> Date of Contravention: 11 December 2025
> Date of Notice: 15 January 2026
>
> I make this formal representation against the above PCN on the
ground of The penalty exceeded the amount applicable in the
circumstances pursuant to the London Local Authorities and
Transport for London Act 2003.
>
> 1. The PCN was served out of time
>
> Section 4 of the 2003 Act requires that a PCN be served before
the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the
alleged contravention.
>
> The alleged contravention occurred on 11 December 2025.
>
> The 28-day period therefore expired on 8 January 2026.
>
> The PCN is dated 15 January 2026. Even allowing for deemed
service (two working days after posting), service would have
occurred on 19 January 2026.
>
> Accordingly, the PCN was served well outside the statutory
28-day limit.
>
> In the absence of any stated statutory exception (such as
delay in obtaining keeper details), the enforcement authority
has acted outside the prescribed time limit. A penalty charge
demanded pursuant to a notice served out of time is not lawfully
due.
>
> 2. Incorrect and conflicting statutory payment periods
>
> The PCN states:
> •
The penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of
28 days beginning with the date of the notice.
> •
of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the charge is
reduced by 50% to £80.00.
> •
the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before end of
the relevant period, London Borough of Lambeth may serve on that
person a charge certificate to the effect that the penalty
charge in question is increased by 50% to £240.00.
>
> However, when accessing the Lambeth payment portal, the
following statements were displayed:
> •
to £160.00 on Wed, 4 Feb 2026. Please pay £80.00 now.”
> •
to £240.00 on Sun, 22 Feb 2026. Please pay £160.00 now.”
> These dates do not correspond with the statutory periods.
>
> The 14-day period beginning with 15 January 2026 expired on 28
January 2026.
>
> The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice
is the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the
penalty charge notice is served (19 January 2026) expires on 15
February 2026.
>
> The dates presented on your website (4 February 2026 and 22
February 2026) therefore conflict with the statutory deadlines
prescribed by legislation and stated on the PCN itself.
> It is well established that enforcement authorities must
strictly comply with the statutory scheme. The provision of
conflicting and misleading information regarding payment
deadlines amounts to a procedural impropriety, as it misstates
the recipient’s legal position and potentially prejudices their
ability to make informed decisions regarding payment or
representations.
>
> In particular:
> 1.
beyond the statutory 14-day period.
> 2.
correspond with the expiry of the relevant period.
> 3.
creates uncertainty as to which dates the authority intends to
rely upon for enforcement.
> Such discrepancies undermine the certainty required by the
statutory regime and render the enforcement process defective.
>
> 3. Restriction to a single ground of representation –
ambiguity and fettering
>
> The 2003 Act provides that representations may be made on “one
or other of the statutory grounds”.
>
> Your online portal requires the recipient to select only a
single ground when making representations.
>
> The statutory wording is ambiguous as to whether multiple
grounds may be advanced. That ambiguity must be resolved in
favour of the motorist. There is nothing within the Act that
expressly prohibits reliance on more than one ground, nor does
it require an owner to limit themselves to a single basis of
challenge.
>
> By restricting the online system to one selectable ground
only, the authority risks unlawfully fettering the right to make
representations and misdirecting recipients as to the scope of
their statutory rights.
>
> Such procedural restriction further undermines the validity of
the enforcement process.
>
> Conclusion
>
> For the reasons set out above:
> •
> •
conflicting statutory deadlines; and
> •
statutory right to make representations.
> Accordingly, the penalty demanded exceeds the amount
applicable in the circumstances of the case and must be
cancelled.
>
> If you do not agree to cancel the PCN, please provide:
> •
28-day statutory period and the statutory basis relied upon;
> •
> •
for those dates;
> •
system restricts representations to a single ground;
> •
the 2003 Act.
> I look forward to your confirmation that this PCN has been
cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your Name]
> [Your Address]
> [Your Contact Details]
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 109708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lambeth, Code 52m - no motor vehicles, Kennington Oval
DIR By: gateway
Date: February 13, 2026, 8:05 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> [quote author=gateway link=topic=9694.msg109599#msg109599
date=1770908744]
> Hello All,
>
> I got the same PCN issued on 11/02/2026, date of contravention
31/01/2026.
>
> . . .
>
>
> Thank you.
>
--- End Quote ---
For advice on your own case please have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
And start your own thread with a brief account of the
circumstances and your questions as you outlined here, and post
up there all sides of the PCN and a GSV link to the location.
Only redact yr name and address from docs - leave all else in.
[/quote]
Thank you will do that now.
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