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#Post#: 107541--------------------------------------------------
Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement from
CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 27, 2026, 11:47 am
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Hi There,
[br]Somewhat unusual situation, for us at least.
[br][br]Earlier today, we received a notice of enforcement from
CDER Group who by the looks are a debt collection agency in the
tune of £325. £250 fine and £75 fees. Ouch!
[br][br]This due to a PCN that was issued back in 01/07/2025 on
the grounds of code 52, failing to comply with prohibition on
certain types of vehicle, e.g. LTN.
[br][br]After much head scratching, my partner recalled that on
that day on their way back from work, due to an accident, the
police diverted traffic through Dove Road, an LTN street which
must have resulted in the fine.
[br][br]Now you might be asking, why so late with all this?
[br][br]That's because we sold our place in Islington (no less
to Islington council) and moved away to Barnet. We did setup
mail forwarding and updated our drivers licenses etc. but forgot
to update the log book. For whatever reason, we were completely
unaware of this ticket, the PCN never materialized in post and
here we are...
[br][br]We logged onto Islington council's PNC portal, but can't
find any photo or map evidence related to the PCN, but an entry
exists.
[br][br]We called CDER Group, but was met with a hostile and
mildly threatening agent (usual tactic I guess) who said that we
have to pay up as we didn't update the log book etc. Needless to
say, we hung up.
[br][br]We plan to call the council tomorrow to learn more...
but in the meantime mulling on options.
[br][br]Clearly, if traffic was being diverted by police,
Islington council shouldn't have issued a PCN in the first place
and there would be records of similar contravention at that
time. Really unfortunate for us. But it was and it didn't make
it to us eventually and was passed on to a debt collection
agency.
[br][br]Advice/help appreciated. I've attached a copy of the
letter received today.
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#Post#: 107560--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: stamfordman Date: January 27, 2026, 1:30 pm
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You are missing the PCN, charge certificate and order for
recovery, so either the mail redirection failed or the logbook
wasn't correct and the letters went somewhere else.
We usually recommend paying at this stage as a bailiff visit
adds £235. Paying doesn't remove your right to try an out of
time declaration to get it reset.
What was date of move.
What dates for the redirection.
Check the name and address on logbook.
#Post#: 107566--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 27, 2026, 1:41 pm
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Hi There,
The date of move was 13th June. We setup redirection shortly
afterwards, but I can’t find details on inbox, must have deleted
the email somehow.
You are correct that the logbook weren’t correct as we forgot to
update that (only drivers licenses).
Kind regards.
#Post#: 107589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: stamfordman Date: January 27, 2026, 4:23 pm
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I meant did the logbook have the correct name and address of
your previous address.
#Post#: 107619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 28, 2026, 1:53 am
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Yup, it did have correct previous address and names.
Thanks.
#Post#: 107632--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 28, 2026, 4:17 am
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FYI called Islington just now.
They asked us to file a TEC and notify the debt collection
agency. Apparently this is a very common thing!
#Post#: 107635--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: fraser.mitchell Date: January 28, 2026, 4:28 am
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[quote author=maxxxpayne link=topic=9686.msg107632#msg107632
date=1769595444]
FYI called Islington just now.
They asked us to file a TEC and notify the debt collection
agency. Apparently this is a very common thing!
[/quote]
Common as in thousands of TEC submissions (Statutory
Declarations or Witness Statements), per year.
#Post#: 107747--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 28, 2026, 1:13 pm
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I assumed in the context of the conversation, that people move,
PCN gets sent to old address and next thing you know debt
collection agency mail in your letterbox!
[quote author=Incandescent link=topic=9686.msg107635#msg107635
date=1769596103]
Common as in thousands of TEC submissions (Statutory
Declarations or Witness Statements), per year.
[/quote]
#Post#: 107749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: stamfordman Date: January 28, 2026, 1:23 pm
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As you don't seem to have updated the logbook you don't have
much of a case. You could provide details of dates of mail
redirection.
The out of time process is designed to cover those who get PCNs
during the window of moving and updating the logbook, among
other things such as no-fault address errors, but the law
requires speedy logbook updating to where the registered keeper
is.
#Post#: 107753--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington PCN code 52 and subsequent notice of enforcement f
rom CDER group
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 28, 2026, 1:28 pm
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[quote author=stamfordman link=topic=9686.msg107749#msg107749
date=1769628219]
As you don't seem to have updated the logbook you don't have
much of a case. You could provide details of dates of mail
redirection.
The out of time process is designed to cover those who get PCNs
during the window of moving and updating the logbook, among
other things such as no-fault address errors, but the law
requires speedy logbook updating to where the registered keeper
is.
[/quote]
Just to be clear - we're happy to pay the original PCN, but
paying the debt company just feels wrong!
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