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#Post#: 107608--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 27, 2026, 5:58 pm
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--- Quote from: zepromz link ---
>
> Well, yes. As I said above, I'd like to know how best to
proceed with getting this PCN dropped.
>
--- End Quote ---
Like most people we see on here, you are not familiar with the
legal process; that's why we are all here to help you !!
Essentially all you have done so far is to submit an informal
challenge to the PCN. In the legal process, the owner as per the
name and address on the V5C Registration Certificate has legal
responsibility for a PCN (pay or appeal), but the driver can
submit a challenge. However legal responsibility remains with
the owner.
So the only real way to fight an obdurate council is to take
them all the way through the process ending up at the
adjudicators. Doing this means you lose the discount option, and
councils ruthlessly 'game the system' by refusing virtually all
informal challenges, knowing that most people, (like >95%) then
just cough-up to get the discount, not knowing anything about
the legal process, and thinking it could get them into owing
serious money.
So now, as the owner of the car, if you're not happy with their
response, you have the option of paying the discount, (like
>95% of people do), or taking the matter further. This means you
must now wait for the Notice to Owner and submit formal
representations as owner of the car, against that. When the
council refuse these, you can register an appeal at London
Tribunals. From this point on, you would be in for the full PCN
penalty. Having said that, most councils, (except Havering),
re-offer the discount when rejecting formal representations
against a Notice to Owner. The maximum you would ever have to
pay is the full PCN penalty if you lose at London Tribunals. Of
course if you win you pay nothing.
#Post#: 107740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: zepromz
Date: January 28, 2026, 12:22 pm
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Thanks Incandescent, thats very helpful. I'll wait until they
give me NTK then post on this thread to follow up.
#Post#: 107752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 28, 2026, 1:27 pm
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If you have been parking like that for years, legitimate
expectation of no enforcement can hold away with the tribunal.
In your case I'd lead on no contravention though.
They may be back so park as far in as you can.
#Post#: 111492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: zepromz
Date: February 28, 2026, 6:16 am
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OK, I have received the Notice To Owner.
Looks pretty straightforward, the "Alleged contravention did not
occur" is the only reason on their list that fits the appeal.
What is the best way to word my challenge, given their
supporting evidence does not show a contravention?
#Post#: 111903--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: zepromz
Date: March 3, 2026, 9:59 am
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I have written a short representation. The NTO gives the option
of emailing it to them, or posting a hard copy. If it is emailed
I can prove it was sent as postal letters do go missing, but I
wondered if it made any difference if I email or post it, some
kind of procedural thing perhaps?
#Post#: 111944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 3, 2026, 2:45 pm
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Email is best - you should get an acknowledgement.
#Post#: 111972--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 3, 2026, 4:30 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> Email is best - you should get an acknowledgement.
>
--- End Quote ---
and make sure you keep a hard copy of it, or at least store it
away where it won't be deleted. Never, ever, trust councils !
#Post#: 116540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: zepromz
Date: April 21, 2026, 6:25 am
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Ealing have "carefully considered my case"
FINE CANCELLED.
Awesome, thanks for the help guys.
#Post#: 116545--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing Council code 62 (wheels on or over footpath) with no
evidence
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 21, 2026, 6:39 am
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Well done ! We don't see this sort of thing very often.
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