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#Post#: 107350--------------------------------------------------
10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not driver,
Debt collectors involved
DIR By: davi
Date: January 25, 2026, 8:43 pm
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Hi
I am the registered keeper, but I was not the driver and was not
insured on the vehicle at the time the PCNs were issued.I gave
my old car to my grandchild to use.
The car was being used by my grandchild. She parked on Tatton
Crescent, London E5 9AG, a private road with red lines, managed
by Private Parking Solutions London Ltd (PPS). She had verbal
permission from a local shop manager to park there. The manager
is not employed by PPS but he has a connection with them. The
permission was understood to be for a limited period. however my
grandchild believed this period was longer.
After that short period ended, I started receiving 10 PCNs by
post as the registered keeper.
My grandchild showed the PCNs to the manager, who said he would
deal with them. This continued for some time with no resolution.
Around six months ago, my grandchild left the UK. I am still
receiving letters, now from various debt collection companies.I
note that different debt collection companies have been used for
different groups of tickets.
How can I stop these letters?
Should I contact PPS and confirm I was not the driver (and not
insured) at the time?
If I name the driver, could this cause any issues for my
grandchild now that she is abroad (and if she comes back)?
Is it too late to challenge the PCNs?
Location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/mvJnMcTLs7GokoDx7
Copies of some letters include 1 last for each group PCN
enclosed.
1st letters (all of them):
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Last letter (group 1):
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Last letter (group2):
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last letters (group3):
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#Post#: 107404--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: RichardW
Date: January 26, 2026, 9:07 am
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As these are over a year old there's not much you can do now.
You could try naming your granddaughter, but then she would be
liable, and with an overseas address I imagine they will just
ignore it. With the best part of £2k in play, I imagine they
will eventually bring this to court. Often these are
discontinued, but again as there are 10, they may be more
interested in pursuing it all the way to a hearing. Arguably the
NTKs are not POFA compliant for transfer of liability (no period
of parking, no invite to pay / name the driver) and the 'no
parking' prohibition is incapable of forming a contract.
Just got to wait it out for a Letter of Claim, and then the
court claim. They have 6 years to bring the claim - should you
move in this time, make sure to notify them, the last thing you
want is a claim going to an address you are not longer at, and
them getting a default judgement.
#Post#: 107409--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: January 26, 2026, 9:36 am
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
> You could try naming your granddaughter, but then she would be
liable, and with an overseas address I imagine they will just
ignore it.
>
--- End Quote ---
If they do, then this would surely further strengthen the OP's
defence, as the creditor would have been provided with the name
of the driver and a current address for service for the driver.
OP, is your grandchild permanently resident abroad?
#Post#: 107451--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: davi
Date: January 26, 2026, 3:32 pm
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just ignore it[/b].
[/quote]
OP, is your grandchild permanently resident abroad?
[/quote]
She has a contract for the next 2 years, and then she will
decide...
Thanks for all replys
#Post#: 123372--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: davi
Date: June 30, 2026, 7:44 am
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
>
>
> Just got to wait it out for a Letter of Claim, and then the
court claim. They have 6 years to bring the claim - should you
move in this time, make sure to notify them, the last thing you
want is a claim going to an address you are not longer at, and
them getting a default judgement.
>
--- End Quote ---
I received the enclosed letter today. It says that it is a
further letter in relation to a "Letter Before Claim" that they
sent in May.
However, I can't find that earlier letter, and I don't remember
receiving it.
Is this "Letter of claim"? Could you please advise me on what I
should do now?
Thanks so much in advance.
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#Post#: 123391--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: June 30, 2026, 11:02 am
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It's worth noting that the original PCNs are not PoFA compliant
so liability cannot be moved onto the vehicle keeper.
You could write back to them and point this out.
#Post#: 123417--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: davi
Date: June 30, 2026, 2:47 pm
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--- Quote from: InterCity125 link ---
>
> It's worth noting that the original PCNs are not PoFA
compliant so liability cannot be moved onto the vehicle keeper.
>
> You could write back to them and point this out.
>
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Thanks for the advice. As I wrote at the beginning of the post,
I ignored all of their letters until now. From what I
understand, At this stage, the matter is no longer in the hands
of the original company, and it's now too late to say that I
wasn't the driver.
#Post#: 123450--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: RichardW
Date: July 1, 2026, 3:47 am
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It's another sabre rattling attempt to get you to pay. I would
write back to say that you have not received the Letter Before
Claim they refer to and ask them to re-send - you could include
that you deny any liablity, as you were not the driver, and the
original PCNs do not comply with the legislation to transfer
liability.
#Post#: 123639--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: davi
Date: July 2, 2026, 5:47 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
> It's another sabre rattling attempt to get you to pay. I
would write back to say that you have not received the Letter
Before Claim they refer to and ask them to re-send - you could
include that you deny any liablity, as you were not the driver,
and the original PCNs do not comply with the legislation to
transfer liability.
>
--- End Quote ---
I prepared a draft, anything to add/delete?
"Thank you for your letter.
I have not received the Letter Before Claim referred to in your
correspondence. Please would you re-send it so that I can review
its contents.
For the avoidance of doubt, I deny any liability in relation to
this matter. I was not the driver of the vehicle at the relevant
time, and the original Parking Charge Notices do not comply with
the statutory requirements necessary to transfer liability to
the registered keeper.
I look forward to receiving a copy of the Letter Before Claim."
#Post#: 123643--------------------------------------------------
Re: 10 PCNs from PPS in Tatton Crescent E5 9AG, Keeper not
driver, Debt collectors involved
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: July 3, 2026, 1:41 am
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Looks good.
But understand, this is just part of the process.
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