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Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 1, 2026, 3:12 pm
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+1 to taking it to London Tribunals
#Post#: 111752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: March 2, 2026, 8:38 am
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Car is in my wife's name, I deal with everything else.
She just drives it.
I intend to take it to tribunal, but on what grounds can I take
it?
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Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 2, 2026, 11:38 am
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--- Quote from: ReflectoR link ---
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> Car is in my wife's name, I deal with everything else.
>
> She just drives it.
>
> I intend to take it to tribunal, but on what grounds can I
take it?
>
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Statutory grounds of "the penalty exceeded the relevant amount
in the circumstances of the case"
#Post#: 112102--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: March 4, 2026, 3:45 pm
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But in what way?
How did it exceed the relevant amount? Sorry, I'm genuinely
asking.
#Post#: 112118--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 4, 2026, 5:10 pm
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--- Quote from: ReflectoR link ---
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> But in what way?
>
> How did it exceed the relevant amount? Sorry, I'm genuinely
asking.
>
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The circumstances were such that no penalty could be demanded,
hence the relevant amount is nil. It's the only way to make a
collateral appeal in the LLQ & TfL Act 2003, the circumstances
being that their website would not accept your attempt to renew
your permit when you attempted to do so.
#Post#: 112182--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: tincombe
Date: March 5, 2026, 12:56 pm
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Your wife's permit expired on 12 Sept.
The PCN was issued on 18 Sept.
I think your wife would struggle to convince an adjudicator that
the permit could not be renewed between 12th and 18th.
IMO, there are procedural grounds which arise from the NOR but
to be certain pl post their 'Appeal Form' and 'guidance notes'.
#Post#: 112793--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: March 11, 2026, 5:09 am
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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> Your wife's permit expired on 12 Sept.
>
> The PCN was issued on 18 Sept.
>
> I think your wife would struggle to convince an adjudicator
that the permit could not be renewed between 12th and 18th.
>
> IMO, there are procedural grounds which arise from the NOR but
to be certain pl post their 'Appeal Form' and 'guidance notes'.
>
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Do you mean these? They came with the NOR.
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Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: March 23, 2026, 5:29 pm
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Hi everyone,
I'm not too sure where to start in terms of a draft for taking
this to tribunal. I think I've got like 2 days left. 1 day
tomorrow.
Are there any pointers please?
Again, thank you all very much.
#Post#: 114177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: tincombe
Date: March 24, 2026, 3:29 am
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Only your wife can initiate appeal proceedings, not you. So make
sure she doesn't lose by default simply because you make this
mistake.
All that's needed at this stage is to register an appeal. Not
write it in minute detail, but to register. 2-3 minutes at most.
Grounds:
Procedural impropriety;
Penalty exceeded.......circ
I rely upon my formal representations and am currently compiling
further representations whose grounds have arisen in consequence
of an improper Notice of Rejection.
My thoughts.
The regulatory 28-day period before a Charge Cert can be served
ends on 26 March, so get the appeal registered beforehand.
#Post#: 114246--------------------------------------------------
Re: Does this mean I cannot take it to tribunal?
DIR By: ReflectoR
Date: March 24, 2026, 12:48 pm
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--- Quote from: tincombe link ---
>
> Only your wife can initiate appeal proceedings, not you. So
make sure she doesn't lose by default simply because you make
this mistake.
>
> All that's needed at this stage is to register an appeal. Not
write it in minute detail, but to register. 2-3 minutes at most.
>
> Grounds:
> Procedural impropriety;
> Penalty exceeded.......circ
>
> I rely upon my formal representations and am currently
compiling further representations whose grounds have arisen in
consequence of an improper Notice of Rejection.
>
> My thoughts.
>
> The regulatory 28-day period before a Charge Cert can be
served ends on 26 March, so get the appeal registered
beforehand.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you.
Yes I will get the wife to do it tonight.
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