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#Post#: 107203--------------------------------------------------
TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing Village
W5
DIR By: DavidB
Date: January 24, 2026, 7:35 am
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I received notification of this PCN on 22/12/2025
(
HTML https://ibb.co/xqVKJj9v).
The date of the PCN shown on the
letter is 19/12/2025.
On the same day I received the PCN letter, I contacted TFL
because I was unable to view the CCTV footage online. This is my
first PCN from TfL, and I was not aware that footage must be
requested by phone and is only provided via CD/DVD.
I submitted my own representation on 22/12/2025
(
HTML https://ibb.co/whmcDfXR).
My representation was made on the
basis that:
- The only evidence of the alleged contravention is the CCTV
footage.
- TfL does not provide this evidence in an accessible electronic
format.
- I referenced another case (225000538A) relating to access to
evidence.
- I also stated that this specific yellow box junction was
previously ruled to be non-compliant in another case
(224054294A), and therefore argued that the PCN should not be
enforceable.
Since submitting my representation, I have checked the PCN
status online every single day.
I have received no other formal communication from TfL
whatsoever no Notice of Rejection, no Charge Certificate, no
emails, no phone calls, and no letters. All my email addresses
are correct and whitelisted, and there is nothing in my junk or
spam folders.
As of today (24/01/2026), the online status still shows the PCN
as On Hold, however the outstanding amount has increased to
£160.00. This is confusing, as an increase would suggest the PCN
is no longer on hold. (
HTML https://ibb.co/CpNVk8hS)
I am unable to contact TfL until Monday as their offices are
closed over the weekend. I am concerned about what may happen
next, as I was not expecting the charge to increase while the
case appears to remain On Hold and without any formal response
to my representation.
Update:
Here is the google maps link;
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sntme9KbQPnnwXt7
Here is the footage:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf8dK0Ibt-c
#Post#: 107212--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:04 am
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I don't think you have any reason to worry at this stage.
The 50% discount automatically runs out 14 days after the date
of Notice. Legally, TFL don't have to reoffer the discount after
this time even if you submit representations very promptly and
spend this time waiting for their response.
However, (unless their policy has changed recently - which I
don't think it has) they will reset the discount at the point
they write to reject your representation. Or if they accept,
they it's zero (of course).
Did you actually request the DVD footage when you spoke to them
originally? Your post doesn't make this clear. If so it ought
to have arrived by now so can you host it somewhere and provide
a link? If not, please request at the earliest opportunity.
Barring the video showing no contravention actually took place,
your best line of defence at this location is likely to refer to
the yellow box not being sited at an actual junction of two
roads as Ealing Village is a private gated estate and a road
requires the public to be able to freely access it. The
difficulty of accessing the footage has also been successful in
the past. Sounds like you referenced these two points and have
found previous case references to back it up.
If you don't hear back from TFL for 3 months, that is also a
strong line of defence as London Tribunals explicitly say any
delay beyond this is unreasonable.
#Post#: 107213--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: DavidB
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:13 am
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Hi, thanks for your quick response. I was just concerned to see
the price jump to the £160, when I was on the phone with TFL I
was told that this would not increase if representation was
submitted and if the enquiry is released from being 'on hold'
the 14 days would then continue to count down.
That said however, when I called them initially I did request
the footage, and I do have a copy but ironically, I don't
actually own a DVD player at all. My PC doesn't have one a
disc-drive, nor' do I own a gaming console!
Regardless, I will call them on Monday to see what is going on
and say that I haven't not yet had a response to my submitted
representation, I've submitted my representation again online
today and have another reference to this because I was in a bit
of a panic when I saw it this morning.
To submit to the London Tribunals, I need a letter of rejection
and the code on that to submit so I can't do that until I have
this - Do you know if TFL send this via email or post or both?
I really appreciate your quick reply, thank you.
EDIT: This is the letter I received, but it seemed to be in
response to an email I sent on the day of getting the PCN letter
asking for the footage via email. Not sure if this letter is a
response to anything:
HTML https://ibb.co/hR0FHH2y
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Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:31 am
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I know this location and will dig out a case won by
[member=1]cp8759[/member] recently. This is winnable for a
couple of reasons. Back later as super busy.
#Post#: 107217--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:31 am
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OK - ironically, all your enquiries and double submission of
representations may be slowing the process down as it's mostly
automated and every time you contact them it will likely throw
the automated elements out a bit.
I can see from the timeline that they've received your
representations (twice) but not responded to this so the ball is
definitely in their court, not yours. Personally I wouldn't
bother calling them on Monday, unless you really do want
additional peace of mind that they are still considering your
representations and that they will reinstate the discount if
they reject your representations. NB if you do take it to
adjudication, then the £80 offer is out the window anyway and it
will be the full £160 if you lose.
That said, things do go missing in the post, so I would keep
checking the status every few days or so so you can see when a
Notice of Rejection has been released and ensure you receive it
shortly afterwards (if you don't then that definitely is cause
to get in touch with them).
What I expect you will also see if that when they do issue the
Notice of Rejection, the PCN amount will drop back to £80. The
NoR will include the details you need to submit to London
Tribunals. It's not unusual for it to take several weeks, so 1
month is definitely nothing to get nervous about, especially
with Christmas and New Year delays in between. Once it gets to
3 months, as I said before, this is when to get itchy. A NoR
must be sent by first class post.
Re the footage, can you access a CD drive anywhere else? E.g. a
friend/neighbour/relative/library? If you genuinely can't (or
even if you can) I would definitely push hard on this if you
take it to adjudication. It's a bit of a scandal that TFL can't
provide this online in this day and age when every other council
seems to be able to.
If you are able to access the footage somehow, please do share
it as we may be able to find other viable appeal points.
#Post#: 107221--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: DavidB
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:42 am
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This was also my theory, that the duplication of representations
was causing the automated parts to breakdown and therefore
increase the price.
Thanks for confirming the timeline, I was expecting to see the
update online to show a NoR but this being my first offence, I'm
new to this process! I do keep checking it every day to see if
it changes. I'll sit on the idea of calling them, and see how I
feel on Monday, checking it this morning and seeing the price
double made me feel like I've missed something.
I will see if I can get someone to get a copy of the video to me
for upload here. I will continue to keep this post updated as
the PCN progresses.
Thanks for your quick response, it really is greatly
appreciated.
#Post#: 107223--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: DavidB
Date: January 24, 2026, 8:46 am
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I've just updated the original post to include the google maps
link, apologies I forgot to add it. I was travelling northbound,
the same was as the white van in this link.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sntme9KbQPnnwXt7
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Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 24, 2026, 9:09 am
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The junction you linked isn't the junction with Ealing Village -
if you are sure this is where you stopped, even more reason to
check the footage as you could win on account of the PCN
accusing you of a contravention which didn't occur (i.e. a stop
outside Ealing Village).
#Post#: 107226--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: DavidB
Date: January 24, 2026, 9:16 am
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Oh wow, actually now you've said this - I think I've been
looking at the wrong box the whole time.
Here are the images from the PCN.
HTML https://ibb.co/jkZvtB5C
HTML https://ibb.co/WWmBZZ1R
#Post#: 107228--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL Code 31 Yellow Box Junction Hanger Lane / Ealing
Village W5
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 24, 2026, 9:17 am
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224054294A
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