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Yellow Box Junction - Havering
DIR By: JulianV
Date: January 22, 2026, 11:57 am
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Here is the timeline so far:
03.07.2025 PCN issued to lease company for alleged contravention
07.06.2025
I then received a PCN around September 2025 and lodged an
appeal.
My appeal was:
I wish to appeal this PCN on the following grounds:
1. I stopped to allow a vehicle to pull out of the side road. I
was not stopped due to the prescence of staionary vehicles. This
is not an offence
2. The box illegally extends to the far side of a T junction
3. There were no signs to indicate the 31j no stopping
restriction you have accused me of and the highway code makes no
mention of not stopping in a yellow box. Please confirm how
iIwas supposed to know the existance of contravention code 31j
prior to the offence?
I received no reply.
On 12.12.2025 I received a charge certificate. On the same day,
I emailed Havering saying:
Dear sir or madam,
I have received a charge certificate for PCN HG6232941A despite
the fact I have already appealed it and received no response.
Please see the email below. I therefore request that you cancel
the charge certificate and respond to my appeal.
Thank you and kind regards.
on 22.01.2026 I recieved the following email:
Good afternoon.
Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay in responding.
We are currently experiencing a high volume of emails.
A letter of rejection was sent on the 10/11/2025 I have attached
a copy of this letter.
Please be advised, as a Charge Certificate has been issued you
are no longer able to make representation against the case as
under the Traffic Management Act 2004, service of a Charge
Certificate removes the right to make representations against
the case. Please wait for an Order for Recovery which will
enable you to make a Witness Statement against the case on one
of the following 3 grounds only.
1. You did not receive the Penalty Charge Notice/Notice to Owner
/ Enforcement Notice.
2. You made representation against the issue of the Penalty
Charge to the local Authority within 28 days but you did not
receive a response (Notice of Rejection).
3. You appealed to the Parking & Traffic Appeals Service against
the local Authority’s decision to reject your representation
within 28 days, but you received no response to your appeal.
Please wait for the Order for Recovery to be served. This is the
only option available to you outside of payment of the current
outstanding balance of (check balance) for each Penalty Charge
Notice. This is a Quasi-Judicial process as laid out in the
Traffic Management Act 2004 that must be followed by both the
London Borough of Havering and the appellant.
Should a Witness Statement be accepted, the Charge Certificate
surcharge will be removed and you will be able to either make
formal representation or pay at the full charge.
Not received PCN -
Not received NTO -
Regards
Darren Penney Process and Debt Recovery Officer
London Borough of Havering | Highways, Traffic & Parking
Town Hall, Main Road, Romford RM1 3BB
Help us improve Traffic & Parking Services in Havering by taking
part in our Customer Satisfaction survey at
HTML https://consultation.havering.gov.uk/parking/711361be/
With the attached letter of rejection:
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/t666CPz
So gang, do I need to wait for Order for Recovery now?
#Post#: 107007--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Junction - Havering
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 22, 2026, 2:47 pm
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I'm confused, the letter and video are in respect of a bus lane,
not yellow box junction.
#Post#: 107009--------------------------------------------------
Re: Yellow Box Junction - Havering
DIR By: JulianV
Date: January 22, 2026, 2:53 pm
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Just testing you are all awake.....
Apologies, here is the correct link for the rejection notice
(not received)
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/p/t666CPz
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Re: Yellow Box Junction - Havering
DIR By: MrChips
Date: January 22, 2026, 3:22 pm
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So - your representations set out a valid and legitimate
defence, you didn't have to stop due to the presence of
stationary vehicles as the car you stopped for was not
stationary when you stopped in the box.
If you can get back in the process and see this through to
adjudication you ought to prevail.
The next step is to wait for the Order for Recovery and follow
the process as set out there. That should get you back to the
PCN stage and you can apply for a tribunal hearing where someone
who actually understands the law will consider your case.
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Re: Yellow Box Junction - Havering
DIR By: mickR
Date: January 22, 2026, 5:32 pm
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very handy that havering have kindly admitted I writing that the
other vehicle wasn't stationary
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