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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: January 24, 2026, 12:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > But some of us representatives are a dog with a bone.
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       --- End Quote ---
       And long may it continue to be so !!
       #Post#: 107258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: January 24, 2026, 1:09 pm
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       Some info on need for suspension ending in this case - it seems
       the key is that the authorisation for the suspension sign
       usually says the sign cannot stay after it is no longer needed.
       In this case though this wasn't in the authorisation but could
       be argued from the traffic order perhaps.
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       #Post#: 107268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: January 24, 2026, 4:05 pm
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       So, should I change the wording of my appeal slightly?
       Maybe add this at the end? "In addition, I note that under the
       Traffic Management Act 2004 the authority is required to have
       regard to the Secretary of State’s Statutory Guidance, which
       emphasises proportional and fair enforcement."
       #Post#: 110440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: February 20, 2026, 2:44 am
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       So I sent my appeal in and have not heard anything back. I have
       been to the website and when I click on payment, I see the
       following:
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       Does this mean my first appeal has been rejected? Do I move to
       the next stage of the appeals process now even though I have not
       received any reply?
       Thansk for any advice.
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 20, 2026, 5:42 am
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       You need to phone them, because it looks strongly as if they
       have, (as usual) rejected your informal challenge to the PCN,
       and have sent a Notice to Owner out. Are you the owner, and is
       the name and address on your V5C Registration Certificate
       up-to-date ?
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: February 20, 2026, 6:23 am
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       Yes. I am the owner and everything is up to date. I sent my
       appeal in and received the acknowledgement on 27th January. So,
       if they had rejected it wouldn't there have been another 14 days
       to pay?
       Also as per the link, I can still appeal as if it were the first
       notice....
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       I suppose they could argue the letter went out and it is now
       past that date? My suspicion is that the appeal has not been
       picked up by the sytem and the fine has just ticked over to the
       past 14 day period.
       I'd rather not phone them as phone calls are harder to document.
       There is an option to email them..or does it not matter?
       I was thinking of submitting the following via email
       "I submitted an informal challenge to PCN BY28005604 on 27
       January 2026 and received an acknowledgement the same day.
       I have not received any response to that challenge.
       The online system now shows the full charge of £160 outstanding.
       Please confirm:
       Whether my informal challenge has been considered;
       Whether a Notice to Owner has been issued;
       The current procedural status of this PCN.
       I look forward to your clarification."
       Would that be sensible?
       Thanks in advance for all the help!
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 20, 2026, 1:40 pm
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       No harm in that.
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: February 20, 2026, 2:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       > No harm in that.
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       Thanks!
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: February 21, 2026, 8:05 am
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       From the council's website:
       When we receive your appeal, it will be logged as a challenge or
       formal representation (depending on how the penalty was issued
       and/or how far it has progressed). We will ensure that the case
       does not progress further and then write to you in due course to
       let you know the outcome and how much money is due, if any.
       So, they will write and will freeze its progression until their
       reply is served.
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       Re: Bromley PCN 21- Parking in a suspended bay Wendover Road
   DIR By: boggler
       Date: February 22, 2026, 3:17 am
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       --- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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       > From the council's website:
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       > When we receive your appeal, it will be logged as a challenge
       or formal representation (depending on how the penalty was
       issued and/or how far it has progressed). We will ensure that
       the case does not progress further and then write to you in due
       course to let you know the outcome and how much money is due, if
       any.
       >
       > So, they will write and will freeze its progression until
       their reply is served.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, that's what they should do but there have been cases of
       councils claiming they have sent out documentation which has not
       been received...
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