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       SNOW
   DIR By: cpj1967
       Date: January 20, 2026, 6:10 am
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       i am the registered keeper of a car which was parked on a
       (private) free car park on 1/10/26. I received a PCN today for
       "not parked wholly within bay" from a BPA member.  The pictures
       show this. The vehicle was consciously parked in this manner. It
       was in the end bay but one. The recent snow fall had been
       cleared and left in a pile in the bay adjacent to where the
       vehicle was parked.. The amount of snow in the adjacent bay left
       it unusable. The vehicle was parked over the line to allow easy
       access under the conditions. Access to the adjacent bay remained
       the same. The driver was not  aware of the conditions and paid
       no attention to the signs as there were no fees to pay. The car
       was parked for approximately 25 minutes. The car park was not
       full ant any time during this 25 minutes.
       Do i have ground to contest the charge?
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: January 20, 2026, 6:17 am
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       There are always ground to contest.
       Post up the PCN for examination - only redact personal info and
       leave all dates viable as this could be out of time for keeper
       liability.
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: cpj1967
       Date: January 20, 2026, 6:52 am
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: January 20, 2026, 7:12 am
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       Welcome to FTLA.
       To help us provide the best advice, please read the following
       thread carefully and provide as much of the information it asks
       for as you are able to: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking
       Charges Forum guide
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       It would be good to see the back of the notice. Also, if you can
       get them, copies of the photos on the notice captured from their
       online portal so we can see what they've captured in terms of
       evidence.
       Aside from any technical arguments (2 photos taken 2 seconds
       apart doesn't provide a period of parking for example), there
       would seem to be an argument about commercial justification
       here. Ordinarily, issuing charges to vehicles that 'straddle' 2
       parking bays would have a clear commercial justification (if
       everyone parked like that, the capacity of the car park would be
       halved). In this case, if snow was blocking one of the 2 bays
       rendering it unusable, it's less clear what legitimate
       commercial objective is being furthered by issuing a charge.
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: cpj1967
       Date: January 20, 2026, 8:56 am
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: cpj1967
       Date: January 22, 2026, 2:12 am
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       Any further advice here?
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: January 22, 2026, 2:15 am
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       Could you please show the back of the PCN - we need to check for
       some particular wording.
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: cpj1967
       Date: January 22, 2026, 2:44 am
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       done
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: January 22, 2026, 6:21 am
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       > done
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       Where?
       I cannot see it.
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       Re: SNOW
   DIR By: 666
       Date: January 22, 2026, 6:44 am
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
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       > Ordinarily, issuing charges to vehicles that 'straddle' 2
       parking bays would have a clear commercial justification (if
       everyone parked like that, the capacity of the car park would be
       halved).
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       Not so. If everyone parked like that, only the bays at ether end
       of each row would be unusable. The capacity would be reduced,
       but not halved.
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