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#Post#: 106575--------------------------------------------------
Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings of a
bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 19, 2026, 3:36 pm
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Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Number: FR67606846
Vehicle Registration Number: PY60KGA
86 Not parked correctly within the markings of a bay or space
HTML https://walthamocm.itsvc.co.uk/PCN/
Over zealous enforcement officer got me today. Can a PCN of this
sort be challenged? Its the end bay with nothing but empty space
after it and one tyre over the bay. I'm following the paving
edge, not the white line (see my pic below or pics in the PCN).
A bit of context which make it even more frustrating - Outside
our flats we have a rombus shaped area to park. These bays only
started being managed by the council 2 years ago, and the white
bays you see in the pics were added at this time. Before that,
we had no bays and room for 10 cars to park, following the shape
of the area and cars parking diagonally filling up the rombus
shaped area (i hope that makes sense).
Since the council took over the space (after a consultation with
(naive) residents they got the majority) they painted in new
white bays perpendicular to top edge - which left 9 spaces and
two dead areas on either end.
Basically on the first space i've turned in following my year
long muscle memory of following the shape of the paving stone
edging not the new white bays and my passenger side rear wheel
is over the white line. Never been a problem in last 2 years but
this officer got me today.
What do you think? Any other details/advice would be greatly
appreciated.
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Here's the streetview of the first parking bay I used:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/GfaZ3PRSbkJVoJck9
#Post#: 106581--------------------------------------------------
Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 19, 2026, 4:31 pm
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They've given an off-street contravention which means you were
in a car park, and that's confirmed by their on-street traffic
order map which shows nothing but a gap there.
But a car park must have a terms board telling you what
conditions apply to park there and what penalties there could
be, and there doesn't seem to be one.
What's also odd is that the permit parking sign seems to be the
same as the one opposite, which is on-street - can you park
there too with your permit?
HTML https://i.ibb.co/bMGm17Cn/Screenshot-2026-01-19-at-22-25-52.png
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Gf92QpB9/Screenshot-2026-01-19-at-22-18-43.png
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 19, 2026, 4:35 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> They've given an off-street contravention which means you were
in a car park, and that's confirmed by their on-street traffic
order map which shows nothing but a gap there.
>
> But a car park must have a terms board telling you what
conditions apply to park there and what penalties there could
be, and there doesn't seem to be one.
>
> What's also odd is that the permit parking sign seems to be
the same as the one opposite, which is on-street - can you park
there too with your permit?
>
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/bMGm17Cn/Screenshot-2026-01-19-at-22-25-52.png
>
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Gf92QpB9/Screenshot-2026-01-19-at-22-18-43.png
>
--- End Quote ---
Interesting. and Yes, the same permit for all streets in the
area 'Wood street North' it's called.
The signs are the same yes, no further signs around for this
little section
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: January 19, 2026, 5:12 pm
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What are the terms of your permit. Anything about how and where
you need to park?
The road is in a controlled parking zone and usually they
wouldn't allow on-street permit holders to park in an off-street
estate and vice versa.
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: catnip
Date: January 19, 2026, 5:42 pm
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There's a sign on the side of the building beside the 'No
Flytipping' notice, but it's not possible to read it on Google
maps.
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 19, 2026, 5:47 pm
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Thanks so much for your input here.
I've found some of the documents from when the area was adopted
by the council resident parking scheme.
HTML https://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2023-10/T52b%2823%29%20-%20Made%20Traffic%20Orders%20%28TMO%29%20-%20WSN%20extn%20off%20street.pdf
HTML https://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2023-10/T52%2823%29%20-%20Notice%20of%20Making%20%28NoM%29%20-%20WSN%20extn.pdf
There's more consultation docs on
HTML https://www.walthamforest.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/roads-and-pavements/road-traffic-schemes-closed-consultations
Under section '52b(23) Housing estates:
WSN CPZ extension into off street parking areas off Stocksfield
Road, permit holders only (made orders, proposed orders 20 July
2023)"
Sorry if this is too much! Permits are all digital now, so don't
have any terms I can find on the Ring-go app
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 19, 2026, 5:49 pm
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
>
> There's a sign on the side of the building beside the 'No
Flytipping' notice, but it's not possible to read it on Google
maps.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'll get a picture tomorrow
#Post#: 106606--------------------------------------------------
Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: January 19, 2026, 6:14 pm
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I have to say its a money-grubbing PCN ! What conceivable
traffic management problem is it addressing ? The space to the
left of the car is not a bay and can't be.
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Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 20, 2026, 1:02 am
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Really is. Literally just paid £75 for a parking permit too last
week. I also pay an extortionate amount in flat service charges,
then come out to your car outside the flat and get greeted with
this.
#Post#: 106661--------------------------------------------------
Re: Waltham Forest - 86 parked incorrectly within the markings
of a bay - Stocksfield Road Estate E17
DIR By: tommytbone
Date: January 20, 2026, 8:10 am
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
>
> There's a sign on the side of the building beside the 'No
Flytipping' notice, but it's not possible to read it on Google
maps.
>
--- End Quote ---
Here's images of those signs. They are historic from old parking
rules when managed by Ascham Homes, who havent managed the
building for 10 years or so.
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