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UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copperho
use Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: January 19, 2026, 2:08 pm
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Hoping this community can help me.
Have received 2 separate Parking Charge Notices which appear to
be for the same venue (the postcodes match but there are 2
different road names and the timings are not an exact match)
Upon entering the residential area, the driver attempted parking
in one area but then decided to park in another area thinking it
was a little closer to the residential address they were
visiting to collect a second hand item from a resident not known
to them as agreed through gumtree.
It was around 8pm with no obvious signage upon entering the
area. Once inside the area it was all very poorly lit.
Please see attachments of PCN's with personal details redacted.
Also note that the pictures used as evidence by CPM are
extremely poor quality and reflect the poor lighting within the
area. The pictures do not prove any contravention in my opinion
as they barely show that they even contain a car, but not sure
if this is of any relevance to the case.
I am yet to formalise any response but will have to send
something in the next couple of days as approaching 28 day
deadline.
I am the registered keeper of the vehicle.
Thanking you in advance for some sound advice.
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: DWMB2 Date: January 20, 2026, 8:59 am
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This is bizarre. At face value, the 2 notices provide evidence
against each other - the same vehicle cannot have been parked in
contravention at 2 different car parks at the same time.
I'd be tempted to draft up 2 appeals (1 for each PCN), as the
keeper, referring to the other.
[indent]Dear Sirs
I have received your parking notice _______ for vehicle
registration mark ____ ___, in which you alleged that the driver
has incurred a parking charge. I dispute this charge as the
registered keeper - there is no obligation for me to identify
the driver and I will not be doing so.
It is clear that there is an issue with your ANPR systems and/or
quality control processes that means the charge cannot be
upheld, and that you cannot prove the alleged contravention.
Your PCN and ANPR images claim that the vehicle entered the car
park at 20:22 on 22nd December 2025. The other parking charge
you have issued (PCN reference ________) claims that the same
vehicle entered a different car park at exactly the same time.
PCN ________
[list]
[li]Alleged location: Copperhouse Green, Zone 1, Lowfield
St[/li]
[li]Alleged entry time: 20:22 - 22/12/25[/li]
[li]Alleged departure time: 20:42 - 22/12/25[/li]
[/list]
PCN ______
[list]
[li][i]Alleged location: Copperhouse Green, Zone 3,
Dartford[/i][/li]
[li][i]Alleged entry time: 20:22 - 22/12/25[/i][/li]
[li][i]Alleged departure time: 20:43 - 22/12/25[/i][/li]
[/list]
[i]
It is clearly impossible for the vehicle to have been
simultaneously parked in 2 different locations at exactly the
same time, and this discrepancy demonstrates an obvious issue
with the enforcement mechanisms deployed at the site.
Accordingly, you have no reliable evidence to demonstrate that
the vehicle was parked at the alleged location at the alleged
time, and you should cancel the charge, and conduct an
investigation into the issues that led to this charge being
incorrectly issued.
Yours[/indent]
There's an example of the sort of wording you could use. As
you've got 2 PCNs, you'll need to submit 2 appeals, but you can
use the same wording, substituting the relevant PCN number etc.
as needed. Depending on their response, I'd also be minded to
escalate complaints about their accessing your data, when a
manual check would have confirmed a clear issue.[/i]
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: January 21, 2026, 11:19 am
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Thank you So much for the advice.
I will do as advised and revert back with the response from them
(Positive hopefully!)
Wish me luck!
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: February 11, 2026, 4:55 am
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Hello community!
I've had separate responses to the PCN's with only a 50% success
rate so far, So looking for some further advice on how to
proceed.
See below responses:
Appeal 1
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
We write to acknowledge receipt of your recent online appeal
against the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to your
vehicle.
Please be advised that on this occasion your appeal has been
upheld and the above PCN has now been cancelled. We have now
removed your details from this PCN.
END
Appeal 2
PCN REFERENCE NUMBER: xxxxxxxxx
PAYMENT DUE DATE: 25th February 2026
TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: £100.00
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge
Notice.
At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We
take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any
evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your
circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone
would like to find themselves in; however, these parking
conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all
motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful
consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today
to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been
unsuccessful.
The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made
on the following basis.
Whilst we note the comments and reason for appeal, we can
confirm that the vehicle remained on site for 20 minutes with no
permit to authorise your stay. We must advise that this car park
is run by Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras
which take a time and date stamped image of the vehicle on entry
and exit, measuring the length of time the vehicle remained on
site, this information is then cross-referenced with the data
from the permit systems. Due to no permit being found, we can
confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.
Either due to the reason for issue and/or the insufficient
evidence provided to support the details of your appeal, we have
considered this PCN and found that it does not fall under the
category of Annex F the Appeals Charter of the Single Code of
Practice. Therefore, if no further evidence is provided, we will
deem this to be our final decision.
You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure
and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to
the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.
To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please
use one of the following payment options;
Online: www.paymyticket.co.uk
Telephone: 0345 463 4040 (24hr)
Post: Payments & Collections, PO Box 3114, Lancing, BN15 5BR
Alternatively, if you do not agree with your internal appeal
outcome and you wish to dispute the matter further, as you have
complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we
will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you
lodge an appeal to them within 28 days of this rejection.
The Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org) provides an
Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type.
If you decide to appeal to the IAS, you will need to visit their
website and use your PCN reference and corresponding vehicle
registration. All PCN's will be uploaded to the IAS website by
the end of this working day.
If you appeal this charge further then you will lose the ability
to pay at the reduced rate (if applicable). In the event that
your IAS appeal is unsuccessful, the full amount for the PCN
will then be payable. If you lodge an appeal with the IAS and
then subsequently pay the charge prior to that appeal being
determined, then the appeal will be withdrawn, and you will not
be given a further opportunity to contest the charge.
If you do not wish to dispute the matter further and payment is
not received within 28 days of the date of this correspondence
then additional charges may be incurred, for which you may be
liable. If the charge continues to remain outstanding, the
matter may be later referred for litigation in the County Court
which could result in a County Court Judgment being made against
you; this may impact on your ability to obtain credit in the
future.
I truly appreciate your help, knowledge & advice.
Many thanks in advance
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: February 16, 2026, 5:42 am
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Hello community!
I've had separate responses to the PCN's with only a 50% success
rate so far, So looking for some further advice on how to
proceed.
See below responses:
Appeal 1
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
We write to acknowledge receipt of your recent online appeal
against the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to your
vehicle.
Please be advised that on this occasion your appeal has been
upheld and the above PCN has now been cancelled. We have now
removed your details from this PCN.
END
Appeal 2
PCN REFERENCE NUMBER: xxxxxxxxx
PAYMENT DUE DATE: 25th February 2026
TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: £100.00
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge
Notice.
At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We
take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any
evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your
circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone
would like to find themselves in; however, these parking
conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all
motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful
consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today
to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been
unsuccessful.
The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made
on the following basis.
Whilst we note the comments and reason for appeal, we can
confirm that the vehicle remained on site for 20 minutes with no
permit to authorise your stay. We must advise that this car park
is run by Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras
which take a time and date stamped image of the vehicle on entry
and exit, measuring the length of time the vehicle remained on
site, this information is then cross-referenced with the data
from the permit systems. Due to no permit being found, we can
confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.
Either due to the reason for issue and/or the insufficient
evidence provided to support the details of your appeal, we have
considered this PCN and found that it does not fall under the
category of Annex F the Appeals Charter of the Single Code of
Practice. Therefore, if no further evidence is provided, we will
deem this to be our final decision.
You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure
and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to
the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.
To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please
use one of the following payment options;
Online: www.paymyticket.co.uk
Telephone: 0345 463 4040 (24hr)
Post: Payments & Collections, PO Box 3114, Lancing, BN15 5BR
Alternatively, if you do not agree with your internal appeal
outcome and you wish to dispute the matter further, as you have
complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we
will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you
lodge an appeal to them within 28 days of this rejection.
The Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org) provides an
Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type.
If you decide to appeal to the IAS, you will need to visit their
website and use your PCN reference and corresponding vehicle
registration. All PCN's will be uploaded to the IAS website by
the end of this working day.
If you appeal this charge further then you will lose the ability
to pay at the reduced rate (if applicable). In the event that
your IAS appeal is unsuccessful, the full amount for the PCN
will then be payable. If you lodge an appeal with the IAS and
then subsequently pay the charge prior to that appeal being
determined, then the appeal will be withdrawn, and you will not
be given a further opportunity to contest the charge.
If you do not wish to dispute the matter further and payment is
not received within 28 days of the date of this correspondence
then additional charges may be incurred, for which you may be
liable. If the charge continues to remain outstanding, the
matter may be later referred for litigation in the County Court
which could result in a County Court Judgment being made against
you; this may impact on your ability to obtain credit in the
future.
I truly appreciate your help, knowledge & advice.
Many thanks in advance
#Post#: 110191--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: February 18, 2026, 6:28 am
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Hi There,
I would really appreciate some further advice on how to proceed
with the below please.
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: DWMB2 Date: February 18, 2026, 6:49 am
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For clarity, which has been upheld and which has been rejected?
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Brenda_R2 Date: February 18, 2026, 7:14 am
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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle in question. I am
appealing this Parking Charge Notice on the grounds that your
Notice to Keeper does not comply with the mandatory requirements
of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (POFA).
Specifically, your Notice fails to meet the requirements of
Paragraph 9(2)(e), which states that a Notice to Keeper must
invite the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charge or provide
the name and address of the driver. Your Notice contains no such
invitation.
Because this statutory requirement has not been met, you cannot
transfer liability from the driver to the keeper. As you have
failed to establish keeper liability under POFA, I, as
Registered Keeper, am under no obligation to pay this charge.
Please confirm cancellation of this charge.
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Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: DWMB2 Date: February 18, 2026, 7:34 am
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[member=7581]Brenda_R2[/member] , whilst that might be suitable
for an initial appeal, the OP is now at the IAS stage. They'll
never go for the 9(2)(e) point, so he might as well try the more
meritorious angle of their clearly unreliable ANPR system.
#Post#: 110237--------------------------------------------------
Re: UK CPM Parking Charge Notice - Vehicle Not Registered - Copp
erhouse Green DA1 1JB
By: Justlikene1 Date: February 18, 2026, 11:48 am
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PCN 70198202 was upheld
PCN 70198466 was rejected
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